[CT Birds] bird postings - re Chris

Sunshine sunny19682 at comcast.net
Thu Jun 25 10:45:52 EDT 2009

I'll pop in on this one because one of the things I hope to impress upon our 
youth is to care about all the things sharing this planet with us - and I do 
mean sharing.  I get quite upset reading posts by folks who want to ignore 
issues that do affect all of us.  I've seen folks defending hunters - who if 
you look at the history of hunting - has decimated species that will never 
be seen ever again - we have had issues with turning our precious green 
planet into a concrete jungle - and now we have another issue with birds in 
peril.  I am not against hunting IF done properly and there is indeed a 
right way to do it (culling the weak and sick and not just the biggest and 
strongest to satisfy a bloodlust) - and I am very much for working with 
builders to create their new structures BUT maintaining precious environs so 
we don't loose them forever as well as the species that call them home - AND 
I am all for educating people to explore better ways do do business and live 
life being wary of the fact that there is more than just us living on this 
planet.  If this list is solely going to serve as a place to find birds to 
'tic off' on a list, then I really better find another place to go because 
although that might have been the original intention of the creation of this 
list, I think it serves us all much better if we did have a place to raise 
these issues and discuss them - and perhaps find proactive and good ways to 
solve those problems.  Ignoring them is not right... it just continues the 
poor views people have about the world we share.  How can we expect to 
maintain our green and blue planet if we ignore "her" needs?

Please - don't stop the discussions... I might not necessarily be able to 
help in all cases, but it's been of great interest to be able to learn about 
situations and what we can do to educate people to perhaps help 'fix' such 
situations - and that's of far greater value than reading post after post of 
"I saw these birds today".

Donna Lorello

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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:32 AM
Subject: [CT Birds] bird postings - re Chris

> So Chris,
> My understanding from what your last e posting says,is, that we should not 
> care about the birds we see, especially those that might be in harms way, 
> but stay on the one accepted subject of finding all good birds and where 
> they are to tic off on our own personal lists. And that we (all of us?) 
> should not allow others, who might want to save some species that might be 
> in danger, for whatever reason, and notify others of their potential 
> peril, and possibly do something about it to help the species survive in 
> our State?
> If I do not want to read about any posted subject, I have the freedom to 
> just go on to the next - you do as well. I was very interested in the 
> Orchard Oriole's plight, as others were, and thank the one who posted it 
> for us all to see and understand what was going on there. It shocked me. 
> They cared about the birds they so love and find enjoyment in seeing. Are 
> birds that you see just a tic on your personal list, and thats it? Good 
> for you.
> Happy birding Chris, and please have a good day.
> Paul Carrier
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