[CT Birds] Sharpie vs. Cooper

Greg Hanisek ghanisek at rep-am.com
Sat Nov 24 17:20:57 EST 2012


Oh, and Amy doesn't have a cuckoo. Guess I got as far as Yellow-b... in her 
post and wishful thinking took over.

Greg

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Hanisek" <ghanisek at rep-am.com>
To: "Steve Mayo and Rebecca Horowitz" <rsdmayo at sbcglobal.net>; 
<ctbirds at lists.ctbirding.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Sharpie vs. Cooper


>I agree with the Cooper's ID for Amy's adult bird. As Steve noted, the 
>adult Cooper's dark cap and paler gray nape are visible on the one image 
>where it's got its head turned. On adult Sharpies the cap and nape are 
>generally the same color. Although I mentioned leg thickness as suggesting 
>Joe's bird might be a Sharpie, I have to agree it's pretty subjective. I 
>found I couldn't really make up my mind what the legs were telling me on 
>Amy's current bird (as opposed to the immature Coop she posted previously). 
>As Don mentioned, the mostly grayish auriculars also suggest Cooper's 
>(although there are sexual differences, with adult male Sharpies showing 
>the most reddish color there), and it seems to have a pretty hefty bill.
>
> Anyway I hope neither of them eats her cuckoo.
>
> Greg Hanisek
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Mayo and Rebecca Horowitz" <rsdmayo at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <Mntncougar at aol.com>; <ctbirds at lists.ctbirding.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 1:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Sharpie vs. Cooper
>
>
> Amy's last photo shows a black cap and a contrasting lighter feathers all 
> the way to the back of the nape. As Don said, that is a field mark for 
> adult Cooper's Hawk.
>
> I still have a lot of trouble determining relative leg thickness, 
> especially at a distance.
>
> Steve Mayo
> Bethany
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Mntncougar at aol.com" <Mntncougar at aol.com>
> To: ctbirds at lists.ctbirding.org
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 11:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Sharpie vs. Cooper
>
> Just because I like to get in trouble I'm going to say I think Amy's bird
> is a Coopers Hawk. The beak seems relatively large to me, in relationship
> to the head, and the head appears large in relationship to the body. Also,
> the tip of the tail is obviously rounded, although I don't consider that 
> the
> best field mark.
> But the sides of the lower face and the neck are very light colored, and 
> my
> own impression and every good set of pictures I can find clearly seem to
> show that as a trait of an adult Coop. An adult Sharpie has the bright red
> color/markings extending right up to the beak and under the eyes. This
> picture is the best example of that:
>
> http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af76/galahmom/other%20photos/birds/Cooper
> sHawk112012-4.jpg
>
> And by the way, I do think that bird looks rather fierce
>
> Don Morgan
> Coventry
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