[CT Birds] Boreal Chickadees on Connecticut CBCs

Nick Bonomo nbonomo at gmail.com
Wed Dec 18 20:09:58 EST 2013


The story I had heard about the wintering Westport birds involved an over-zealous collector killing most of the group one winter, which was the last time they were seen. Is there any truth to that whatsoever?

Nick
Wallingford

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On Dec 18, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Mark Szantyr <birdinggeek at gmail.com> wrote:

> Certainly i meant remnant  vestigial wintering population. 
> 
> I am not sure If any of them were banded. I do know genetic material exists from members of the group. 
> 
> And i also know that it was not a gradual disappearance. It was here one winter, gone the next.
> 
> Mark 
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2013, Mark Szantyr wrote:
>> 
>>> And also, conversation st the time centered around this being some
>>> vestigial remnant population that was holding on in this area. I believe
>>> this conversation was driven by birders working at CT Audubon at the time.
>>> Perhaps more info can be found there.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Mark Szantyr <birddog55 at charter.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If my recollection serves and I can  likely find my notes, that number
>>> or a similar number occurred several years in a row not just in that one
>>> year. I remember seeing them in at least 2 consecutive years, maybe three
>>> until they no longer were present.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 18, 2013, at 6:05 PM, "David F Provencher (Generation - 4)" <
>>> david.f.provencher at dom.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Frank as you know, when Black-capped Chickadees move (irrupt) in decent
>>> numbers they often do so in groups. This is observable at hawkwatches or
>>> Morning Flight spots like Bluff Point. The 10 Boreals in 1981 were way
>>> before I started birding but I would hazard the guess that those birds
>>> (similarly to Black-capped) likely travelled together (or were part of a
>>> couple or so groups) and ended up wintering together. My experience with
>>> winter Boreal Chickadees is mostly in the White Mountains at elevations
>>> that are still quite high. The three I saw on 12/08/13 were above 4,000
>>> feet. Based on my experience of population densities I'd have to say that
>>> 1981 must have been a remarkable year in which a very significant portion
>>> of the population in the northeast irrupted. I can't imagine finding 10 in
>>> CT!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: CTBirds [mailto:ctbirds-bounces at lists.ctbirding.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Frank Mantlik
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 5:32 PM
>>>>> To: Stephen Broker; ctbirds at lists.ctbirding.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Boreal Chickadees on Connecticut CBCs
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Steve.
>>>>> Of particular note is the total of 10 Boreal Chickadees recorded on the
>>> 12/27/81 Westport CBC.  These, and the totals from other years in that
>>> time-frame, were birds that often wintered at the Smith-Richardson
>>> Sanctuary (Christmas tree farm) of CT Audubon. For some reason, a disjunct
>>> population appeared there in Nov. through March or so. That particular
>>> total, as I recall, was reported by the young birding brothers Steven and
>>> David Sibley (along with father Fred, and others?).
>>>>> Unfortunately, none have been found there in decades.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Frank Mantlik
>>>>> Stratford
>>>>> (former Westport CBC Compiler)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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