[CT Birds] Kites: Re: White Faced Ibis
ashippee at snet.net
Wed Jul 2 12:36:36 EDT 2014
I will reiterate that there's a stakeholder or two whom we're ignoring.
This sounds like a pretty big & organized group involved with the kites. Why not seek to work with them (and associated people, if there's a cultural tie among them) to figure out how best to manage competing interests.
For instance, perhaps those involved would be willing to help out with some conservation or clean-up tasks as part of a comprehensive plan?
On Jul 2, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Mark Szantyr via CTBirds <ctbirds at lists.ctbirding.org> wrote:
> And you know, the more i think about this, the more it seems like we should be wondering (once again !) just what the leadership of the parks commission and Hammonasset in particular are doing to maintain these spaces as conservation land rather that amusement parks. This event should have been stopped if in fact it was prohibited activity. It apparently was not in some desolate area but in pretty plain sight... They were kites. Probably in the air, you know? In fact, any kite flying during the bird breeding season should be reconsidered by the management.
> Likewise, with all the people on staff at Hammonasset, i find it hard to imagine someone could not have been reassigned to clean up the mess. Again, its a wildlife conservation area.
> I disagree with John. It is not on us. It is very squarely on the management of Hammonasset to answer for this like they have for the other gross conservation problems at the park from recent past.
> Perhaps its time for more letters to the Governor, commissioner, and park staff.
> Mark Szantyr
>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Mark Szantyr <birdinggeek at gmail.com> wrote:
>> And perhaps a larger question might be why the activities on Saturday were not observed by the park staff and curtailed and subsequently, why the litter, if it was as significant as reported, was still there on Wednesday.
>> Mark Szantyr
>>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 9:46 AM, James Winkelmann via CTBirds <ctbirds at lists.ctbirding.org> wrote:
>>> Somewhere in your rant is a reasonable point. Unfortunately, it's buried
>>> under layers of poor grammar and punctuation, overly broad and unduly harsh
>>> criticism of an entire community, and cloying self congratulation. As it
>>> stands I think you've simply alienated a group of natural allies. While
>>> yes we all bear a shared responsibility of environmental stewardship, the
>>> real culprits here are the ones who littered the marsh.
>>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:37 AM, John Pfitzner via CTBirds <
>>> ctbirds at lists.ctbirding.org> wrote:
>>>> I do not recall the exact date the white faced Ibis was first reported
>>>> But I am certain it was before saturday 06.21. On that day pavilion # 4
>>>> ( the pavilion in between willard's island and cedar island trail
>>>> entrances )
>>>> Was reserved for a party.
>>>> The attendees of the party engaged in a tradition of their native land (
>>>> India )
>>>> Which is " Kite Fighting " . This entails paper and wooded stick framed
>>>> Attached to kite line specifically designed for cutting the others kite
>>>> line. It is
>>>> extremely abrasive to say the least, some actually has powdered glass
>>>> impregnated in it.
>>>> The last time this happened at Hammonasset park management banned the
>>>> Of this in the park. I and the two co- vice presidents of menunketuck
>>>> Spent three hours in almost 90 degree heat and clear skies removing all of
>>>> the line
>>>> And kites that were criss crossed over the entire marsh area at the
>>>> extreme west end of the park.
>>>> I went to hammo on wednesday June 25th four day's after the "Party" to see
>>>> the WF Ibis.
>>>> Before I even arrived to the marsh edge as i approached the meadow I saw
>>>> kite line
>>>> Strewn all over the meadow. I immediately removed all of it. about 500
>>>> feet of it. As I
>>>> As I walked the mowed path along the marsh edge and looked over the marsh
>>>> I saw
>>>> A environmental and ecological disaster of colossal proportion.
>>>> I immediately forgot about the WF Ibis and ventured as far as I could (
>>>> without waders )
>>>> And retrieved as much line and kite's as I could. I also notified the park
>>>> office. I returned to
>>>> Hammo the next day, this time with knee high wading boots and gloves. I
>>>> spent an hour and
>>>> A half in the marsh and collected least FIVE THOUSAND FEET of vile
>>>> abrasive kite line as well
>>>> As ten kite's, most of which had 300-600+ feet of line attached.
>>>> Another menunketuck member also collected a substantial amount of line and
>>>> kite's, as well as park maintenance
>>>> And Russ the nature center director.
>>>> I am quite certain that at least 20 - 50 so called "birders" and
>>>> "photographers" went to hammo between
>>>> Sunday the 22nd and wednesday the 25th. What is more astonishing and
>>>> deplorable then the disaster
>>>> In the marsh is that no one cared about what they saw in the marsh unless
>>>> it was a white faced ibis.
>>>> No one reported it or removed any of it. all about one's selfish desire to
>>>> check one off the "life list' or
>>>> To get the "money shot" or to show off some photo's of a rare bird. It is
>>>> disgusting behavior.
>>>> And do not try to divert the blame to the park or management, It is all on
>>>> you. The park
>>>> banned them from doing it, and this year they used a different name and
>>>> specifically requested
>>>> That area as to be at a more secluded location. the park supervisor
>>>> contacted reserve america and
>>>> Alerted them that they are no longer allowed to reserve pavilions at the
>>>> park. All of the collected
>>>> Material was brought to the park supervisor for evidence. He tried to
>>>> pursue issuing citations for
>>>> Littering, but it was too after the event and no witnesses or reports on
>>>> that day.
>>>> All those binoculars and scopes and cameras and no one saw the kite's and
>>>> line ?????? REALLY ??
>>>> How sad and pathetic, Just proves the vast difference between birders and
>>>> photographers and
>>>> Environmentalists, Like me..I could care less if i ever see a lazuli
>>>> bunting or marbled godwit. or
>>>> Get a photo of one. And if I do, I will not tell anyone. All that concerns
>>>> me is protecting the wildlife and the environment they live in.
>>>> When people see me at hammo with my camera and binoculars they will ask "
>>>> are you a photographer or a birder"
>>>> I tell them " No...I am not...and I do not understand why you chose to
>>>> insult me. Then I explain my answer to them.
>>>> I will make certain that cedar tracts and any area off trail on willard's
>>>> island will be a protected area and signs will be posted
>>>> As to access is prohibited and subject to citation and fine. In the fall I
>>>> will be monitoring that area and if I see anyone in
>>>> The cedars I will alert the park and EnCON police.
>>>> Happy 4th of July........
>>>> John Pfitzner
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