[CT Birds] Hammonasset

Nick Bonomo nbonomo at gmail.com
Tue Sep 1 10:02:50 EDT 2015

Thank you Kathy and Mark. We have had regular input from our leaders
at COA and Audubon Connecticut on this forum, but we have heard
precious little from Connecticut Audubon Society. CAS President
Alexander Brash has posted to this listserv in the past, but I do not
recall anything from him on these current issues, which is
unfortunate. I think we would all love to hear from him, described by
CAS as a "longtime conservation leader."

Nick Bonomo
Wallingford, CT

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Kathy Van Der Aue via CTBirds
<ctbirds at lists.ctbirding.org> wrote:
> I'm back from Maine tonight and will go by there to see on Monday.  I have
> hope but it's looking bleak from your description, Mark.  As Patrick says,
> there's been no rain...  They told us the septic leach fields would be
> there and that they agreed to construct the pools, which is why I wanted
> the committee, so it would be done right.
> Kathy Van Der Aue
> Southport, Connecticut
> Visit my Blog at http://naturaliststable.wordpress.com
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Mark Szantyr via CTBirds <
> ctbirds at lists.ctbirding.org> wrote:
>> So Hammonasset is terminally and irreversably ruined as a habitat for
>> birds.  Despite the lip service to concerned parties, I believe the state
>> has already decided on a plan for the park and that they have no intention
>> of conceeding anything to anyone, least of all the bird community.  Their
>> work continues even when they say they want to meet to discuss the plan. A
>> trusted visitor to the park today reports that it is destroyed west of the
>> rotary, and being destroyed by the new nature center at the east end.
>> They are playing all of us and will give nothing back. They are counting
>> on all the nature organizations being too afraid of pissing anyone off to
>> ever stand up like adults and demand back what greedy parks personnel,
>> ignorant and greedy parks personnel, have taken from us. Other states get
>> it. Other states work out a balance between recreation  and the
>> environment. Ever since the days of John Rowland, this state has been for
>> sale to the highest bidder with complete disregard for true natural
>> treasures that are now long gone, AKA Rentschler Field.
>> Honestly, i have had it. I cant stand what we have let happen.  Stop
>> kidding yourselves. No one is listening to you and no one cares.
>> This should serve as a heads up to any and all out-of-state birders
>> thinking of traveling to Hammonasset... Don't bother. Spend your birding
>> dollars in another state.
>> Mark Szantyr
>> > On Aug 29, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Comins, Patrick <PCOMINS at audubon.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ugh....but of course we have had no rain whatsoever so no surprise that
>> there are rain pools.  I do think we will be able to get some concessions
>> out of the state and I'm hopeful that the committee won't be a complete
>> waste of time.   I've been talking to Stewart about the need to bring these
>> issues up at the highest levels of DEEP through the IBA Advisory Committee,
>> in which the commissioner participates.  Maybe I'm just a polyanna.
>> >
>> > I do have to get there and see things for myself.  The parking area was
>> supposed to be no bigger and was supposed to include some areas of non
>> impervious surface with some bird friendly plantings included in them, so
>> the nest was supposed to be less pavement and islands of habitat within
>> areas that were formerly paved.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Patrick M. Comins
>> > Director of Bird Conservation
>> >
>> > Audubon Connecticut
>> > 185 East Flat Hill Road
>> > Southbury, CT 06488
>> >
>> > Phone: (203)264-5098 x308
>> >
>> > Fax: (203)264-6332
>> >
>> > pcomins at audubon.org
>> > http://iba.audubon.org/iba/viewState.do?state=US-CT
>> > Audubon Connecticut is on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/AudubonCT
>> > Friends of Conte is on Facebook:
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Friends-of-the-Silvio-O-Conte-National-Fish-and-Wildlife-Refuge/121976791147545?v=wall
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: Mark Szantyr <birdinggeek at gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 7:24 PM
>> > To: Paul Fusco
>> > Cc: Comins, Patrick
>> > Subject: Re: Whimbrels?
>> >
>> > I am forwarding this to the alleged group. I really don't think i am
>> interested in wasting my time on this committee. The parks people have a
>> plan and birds do not fit in it. It is a fucking shame that this park is
>> ruined. But maybe we should talk sbout it some more... That seems to work
>> well.
>> >
>> > Mark Szantyr
>> >
>> >> On Aug 29, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Paul Fusco <paul.fusco at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Speaking of ...
>> >> I just did a drive thru at the now sespool we used to call Hammonasset.
>> The west beach parking lot is one and a half times bigger, already paved.
>> The west end leach field is filled big time, raising the elevation. No more
>> pools there. The field on the opposite side of the road now has white lines
>> painted on it. No doubt the first step toward making additional parking
>> there.
>> >> All this for what? A few weekend days a year when the beaches get
>> overcrowded.
>> >>
>> >> Oh yeah, and not a single shorebird was in sight.
>> >>
>> >> P
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>> On Aug 29, 2015, at 6:28 PM, "Comins, Patrick" <PCOMINS at audubon.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hard to know.  Hammo ish
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Aug 29, 2015, at 5:15 PM, Paul Fusco <paul.fusco at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hey Patrick,
>> >>>> Where were those whimbrels coming from?
>> >>>> P
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
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