[CT Birds] Hammonasset

Mark Szantyr birdinggeek at gmail.com
Fri Sep 4 16:53:45 EDT 2015

I may have missed it but I was wondering if Nick or the list ever got a response to his question about Connecticut Audubon's position / involvement in the devastation of Hammonasset by the Parks division. 

Just curious. 

Mark Szantyr

> On Sep 1, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Nick Bonomo <nbonomo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Kathy and Mark. We have had regular input from our leaders
> at COA and Audubon Connecticut on this forum, but we have heard
> precious little from Connecticut Audubon Society. CAS President
> Alexander Brash has posted to this listserv in the past, but I do not
> recall anything from him on these current issues, which is
> unfortunate. I think we would all love to hear from him, described by
> CAS as a "longtime conservation leader."
> Nick Bonomo
> Wallingford, CT
> www.shorebirder.com
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Kathy Van Der Aue via CTBirds
> <ctbirds at lists.ctbirding.org> wrote:
>> I'm back from Maine tonight and will go by there to see on Monday.  I have
>> hope but it's looking bleak from your description, Mark.  As Patrick says,
>> there's been no rain...  They told us the septic leach fields would be
>> there and that they agreed to construct the pools, which is why I wanted
>> the committee, so it would be done right.
>> Kathy Van Der Aue
>> Southport, Connecticut
>> Visit my Blog at http://naturaliststable.wordpress.com
>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Mark Szantyr via CTBirds <
>> ctbirds at lists.ctbirding.org> wrote:
>>> So Hammonasset is terminally and irreversably ruined as a habitat for
>>> birds.  Despite the lip service to concerned parties, I believe the state
>>> has already decided on a plan for the park and that they have no intention
>>> of conceeding anything to anyone, least of all the bird community.  Their
>>> work continues even when they say they want to meet to discuss the plan. A
>>> trusted visitor to the park today reports that it is destroyed west of the
>>> rotary, and being destroyed by the new nature center at the east end.
>>> They are playing all of us and will give nothing back. They are counting
>>> on all the nature organizations being too afraid of pissing anyone off to
>>> ever stand up like adults and demand back what greedy parks personnel,
>>> ignorant and greedy parks personnel, have taken from us. Other states get
>>> it. Other states work out a balance between recreation  and the
>>> environment. Ever since the days of John Rowland, this state has been for
>>> sale to the highest bidder with complete disregard for true natural
>>> treasures that are now long gone, AKA Rentschler Field.
>>> Honestly, i have had it. I cant stand what we have let happen.  Stop
>>> kidding yourselves. No one is listening to you and no one cares.
>>> This should serve as a heads up to any and all out-of-state birders
>>> thinking of traveling to Hammonasset... Don't bother. Spend your birding
>>> dollars in another state.
>>> Mark Szantyr
>>>>> On Aug 29, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Comins, Patrick <PCOMINS at audubon.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Ugh....but of course we have had no rain whatsoever so no surprise that
>>> there are rain pools.  I do think we will be able to get some concessions
>>> out of the state and I'm hopeful that the committee won't be a complete
>>> waste of time.   I've been talking to Stewart about the need to bring these
>>> issues up at the highest levels of DEEP through the IBA Advisory Committee,
>>> in which the commissioner participates.  Maybe I'm just a polyanna.
>>>> I do have to get there and see things for myself.  The parking area was
>>> supposed to be no bigger and was supposed to include some areas of non
>>> impervious surface with some bird friendly plantings included in them, so
>>> the nest was supposed to be less pavement and islands of habitat within
>>> areas that were formerly paved.
>>>> Patrick M. Comins
>>>> Director of Bird Conservation
>>>> Audubon Connecticut
>>>> 185 East Flat Hill Road
>>>> Southbury, CT 06488
>>>> Phone: (203)264-5098 x308
>>>> Fax: (203)264-6332
>>>> pcomins at audubon.org
>>>> http://iba.audubon.org/iba/viewState.do?state=US-CT
>>>> Audubon Connecticut is on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/AudubonCT
>>>> Friends of Conte is on Facebook:
>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Friends-of-the-Silvio-O-Conte-National-Fish-and-Wildlife-Refuge/121976791147545?v=wall
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Mark Szantyr <birdinggeek at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 7:24 PM
>>>> To: Paul Fusco
>>>> Cc: Comins, Patrick
>>>> Subject: Re: Whimbrels?
>>>> I am forwarding this to the alleged group. I really don't think i am
>>> interested in wasting my time on this committee. The parks people have a
>>> plan and birds do not fit in it. It is a fucking shame that this park is
>>> ruined. But maybe we should talk sbout it some more... That seems to work
>>> well.
>>>> Mark Szantyr
>>>>> On Aug 29, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Paul Fusco <paul.fusco at sbcglobal.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Speaking of ...
>>>>> I just did a drive thru at the now sespool we used to call Hammonasset.
>>> The west beach parking lot is one and a half times bigger, already paved.
>>> The west end leach field is filled big time, raising the elevation. No more
>>> pools there. The field on the opposite side of the road now has white lines
>>> painted on it. No doubt the first step toward making additional parking
>>> there.
>>>>> All this for what? A few weekend days a year when the beaches get
>>> overcrowded.
>>>>> Oh yeah, and not a single shorebird was in sight.
>>>>> P
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2015, at 6:28 PM, "Comins, Patrick" <PCOMINS at audubon.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hard to know.  Hammo ish
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2015, at 5:15 PM, Paul Fusco <paul.fusco at sbcglobal.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey Patrick,
>>>>>>> Where were those whimbrels coming from?
>>>>>>> P
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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