[CT Birds] Shorebird Puddles

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Thu Jul 27 17:40:36 EDT 2017

Kathy and Steve-I am interested in joining the meeting with Dep. Cmr. Whalen regarding the birding pools at Hammo. Thanks--Mary Mushinsky, Wallingford
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------ Original message------From: Stuart Winquist via CTBirds Date: Wed, Jul 26, 2017 10:19 PMTo: Kathy Van Der Aue;Cc: List CT Birds;Subject:Re: [CT Birds] Shorebird Puddles
I would encourage Hammonasset knowledgable birders who are also affiliated with other conservation minded organizations, whom they can officially represent, to throw their names into the ring.  A coalition of organizations led by COA could have more weight, and give those other organizations contacts for other projects.  In addition to the Conservation Commissions mentioned on another post, the Madison Land Trust, any of the Audubons or other orgs could be helpful.  I've had a few contacts with various DEEP people through my involvement with the Middlesex Land Trust and found them to be very dedicated people.In addition to maintaining habitat, seasonally closing off sections of unpaved over-flow parking lots might help keep birds from being disturbed in some instances, including at the puddles under discussion and the grass lot near the nature center where plovers and other migrants rest and feed.  I'm not down there very often, but I often see cars flushing birds in these areas.Stuart Winquist, East HamptonSent from my iPhone> On Jul 26, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Kathy Van Der Aue via CTBirds  wrote:> > Well, I thought it was clear who the answer was from.  Susan Whalen is the> Deputy Commissioner of DEEP, in charge of the Bureau of Natural Resources> (including the Wildlife Division) and Outdoor Recreation (which includes> Parks).  She is Director of State Parks Tom Tyler's superior.> > In fact Deputy Commissioner Whalen has contacted me and offered a meeting> with appropriate DEEP staff to try and work out a solution to this> problem.  The COA Board will work out who should attend this meeting.  If> anyone on this list is interested, please let me or Steve Broker know.> What we need are knowledgeable birders, familiar with the areas in> question, who can keep their heads about them.> > > Kathy Van Der Aue> Southport, Connecticut> Visit my Blog at http://naturaliststable.wordpress.com> > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 12:14 PM, john--- via CTBirds <> ctbirds at lists.ctbirding.org> wrote:> >> The answer you received actually does not remotely address the particular>> areas in question which are simply natural depressions in the grassy fields>> adjacent to an unpaved parking lot and specifically NOT in the parking area>> itself. Also they are not "potholes," which are due to frost heaves in>> paved areas. The rain puddles were not in areas of visitor foot traffic and>> created no "safety" hazard whatsoever.>> >> Notice how the order came from the faceless all-high "commissioner'>> office," so no named individual can be held accountable. Emails are not the>> answer. We need a face to face meeting not necessarily with Mr. Tyler, but>> with the individual in the "commissioner's office" from whom he receives>> his marching orders. The buck has to stop somewhere.>> >> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail>> >> On Wednesday, July 26, 2017, Kathy Van Der Aue via CTBirds <>> ctbirds at lists.ctbirding.org> wrote:>> >> I have received a copy of the official response to Mark Szantyr from Tom>> Tyler of the Parks division, via Susan Whalen (see below). I suggest that>> we take them up on the offer to work with us to create "pothole" habitat in>> the park in places that are not used for parking. Does anyone know about>> how to create artificial shorebird habitat which would mimic the areas in>> the existing parking lots? Clearly the park wants the parking lots free of>> potholes. The alternative might be for them to pave the parking lots, which>> none of us wants. ​"​ Thank you for your email regarding the recent parking>> lot maintenance at Hammonasset Beach. The management of Hammonasset Beach>> State Park is the responsibility of the State Parks and Public Outreach>> Division of the DEEP, and the Commissioner's office has asked me to respond>> to your concern on behalf of the Department. This issue is one that has>> been raised by members of the birding community in past years. We have been>> urged by folks to allow parking lot potholes to be left to fill with water>> and grow to provide habitat for birds. Unfortunately, we cannot commit to>> maintaining bird habitat in the parking lots at Hammonasset Beach. We do>> need to perform routine maintenance (including filling potholes) in an>> attempt to assure the safety of our park visitors and to maintain the>> usefulness of the parking lots. I will reiterate our previous (and>> standing) offer to work with members of the birding community and our>> Wildlife Division staff to enhance habitat outside of the parking lots, if>> there are some specific habitat conditions that do not currently exist at>> the park, that we could collectively work to create. If this is something>> you would like to explore, or if you would like to discuss this issue>> further, please feel free to contact me at 860-424-3099 Thank you Tom>> Tyler ​" ​ Kathy Van Der ​ ​ Aue Southport, Connecticut Visit my Blog at>> http://naturaliststable.wordpress.com _______________________________________________>> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA)>> for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. 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