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Re: [PUP] Motor/sailing Vessels

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Patrick Gerety
Sun, Mar 18, 2007 5:03 PM

My trawler is relativey skinny as far as trawlers go.  My LOA is 40'-6" with a
13'-8" beam.  It has a very fine entry with a canoe stern.  The hull exhibits
the characteristics of a sailboat more so than any other production trawler on
the market.  Consequently the hull is very efficient and seakindly for a
trawler.  I get between 4 and 5 nmpg (depending on sea conditions) at 7.5
knot, which seems to be the "sweet spot" for my boat.  The downside is that my
interior space is more confined than most production trawlers on the market
today.

Although my boat is a 100% trawler, I do carry a downwind genoa that I
hank on whenever the mood strikes me.  Since I have essentially a sailboat
hull, it is easily driven by a sail and benefits most from the addition of a
sail.  This downwind genoa increases my range (which is already 3000+ miles
without the sail), provides some stabilization, is my emergency "get
somewhere" system, and is just plain "fun" for an old time rag bagger like me.
The genoa I have now is a bit small but is good in heavier wind.  I will be
getting a larger genoa in a lighter sailcloth for those conditions less than
say, 20 knots of wind.  My boat is really not a motorsailer, but I treat it as
if it were.  I think I have the best of both worlds.

With regards to
catamarans, I am fascinated by them.  I envy their large saloons and
"potential" for speed.  But then again, my boat is more than big enough for
the two of us and four people in a pinch.  And besides, I am not in a hurry to
get anywhere.  One complaint that hear from my catamaran colleagues here in
the marina is the cost of berthing for a cat.  The marina here in La Paz is
charging USD$ 12.75 a foot for a 40 foot monohull boat.  A catamaran takes up
two berths and therefore pays double the price.....$25.50 per foot. That rate
eats up a cruising kitty pretty fast!

I will never own a catamaran - not
because I don't like them - but because the boat I have now will be my last
one.  We're off the the South Pacific next year in our slow but comfortable
trawler.

Boats.....I love them all!

Patrick
Willard 40PH
ALOHA
La Paz, MX

My trawler is relativey skinny as far as trawlers go. My LOA is 40'-6" with a 13'-8" beam. It has a very fine entry with a canoe stern. The hull exhibits the characteristics of a sailboat more so than any other production trawler on the market. Consequently the hull is very efficient and seakindly for a trawler. I get between 4 and 5 nmpg (depending on sea conditions) at 7.5 knot, which seems to be the "sweet spot" for my boat. The downside is that my interior space is more confined than most production trawlers on the market today. Although my boat is a 100% trawler, I do carry a downwind genoa that I hank on whenever the mood strikes me. Since I have essentially a sailboat hull, it is easily driven by a sail and benefits most from the addition of a sail. This downwind genoa increases my range (which is already 3000+ miles without the sail), provides some stabilization, is my emergency "get somewhere" system, and is just plain "fun" for an old time rag bagger like me. The genoa I have now is a bit small but is good in heavier wind. I will be getting a larger genoa in a lighter sailcloth for those conditions less than say, 20 knots of wind. My boat is really not a motorsailer, but I treat it as if it were. I think I have the best of both worlds. With regards to catamarans, I am fascinated by them. I envy their large saloons and "potential" for speed. But then again, my boat is more than big enough for the two of us and four people in a pinch. And besides, I am not in a hurry to get anywhere. One complaint that hear from my catamaran colleagues here in the marina is the cost of berthing for a cat. The marina here in La Paz is charging USD$ 12.75 a foot for a 40 foot monohull boat. A catamaran takes up two berths and therefore pays double the price.....$25.50 per foot. That rate eats up a cruising kitty pretty fast! I will never own a catamaran - not because I don't like them - but because the boat I have now will be my last one. We're off the the South Pacific next year in our slow but comfortable trawler. Boats.....I love them all! Patrick Willard 40PH ALOHA La Paz, MX
KW
Ken Williams
Mon, Mar 19, 2007 2:50 AM

Patrick:

I'll write up a trip report over the next couple days... but,

I just spent the last few days cruising out of La Paz. I kept looking
forward but our paths never crossed.. unless.. I did see one motor-sailor
looking boat running north about noon today...

-Ken W

-----Original Message-----
From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of
Patrick Gerety
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 10:04 AM
To: Passagemaking Under Power List
Subject: Re: [PUP] Motor/sailing Vessels

My trawler is relativey skinny as far as trawlers go.  My LOA is 40'-6" with
a
13'-8" beam.  It has a very fine entry with a canoe stern.  The hull
exhibits
the characteristics of a sailboat more so than any other production trawler
on
the market.  Consequently the hull is very efficient and seakindly for a
trawler.  I get between 4 and 5 nmpg (depending on sea conditions) at 7.5
knot, which seems to be the "sweet spot" for my boat.  The downside is that
my
interior space is more confined than most production trawlers on the market
today.

Although my boat is a 100% trawler, I do carry a downwind genoa that I
hank on whenever the mood strikes me.  Since I have essentially a sailboat
hull, it is easily driven by a sail and benefits most from the addition of a
sail.  This downwind genoa increases my range (which is already 3000+ miles
without the sail), provides some stabilization, is my emergency "get
somewhere" system, and is just plain "fun" for an old time rag bagger like
me.
The genoa I have now is a bit small but is good in heavier wind.  I will be
getting a larger genoa in a lighter sailcloth for those conditions less than
say, 20 knots of wind.  My boat is really not a motorsailer, but I treat it
as
if it were.  I think I have the best of both worlds.

With regards to
catamarans, I am fascinated by them.  I envy their large saloons and
"potential" for speed.  But then again, my boat is more than big enough for
the two of us and four people in a pinch.  And besides, I am not in a hurry
to
get anywhere.  One complaint that hear from my catamaran colleagues here in
the marina is the cost of berthing for a cat.  The marina here in La Paz is
charging USD$ 12.75 a foot for a 40 foot monohull boat.  A catamaran takes
up
two berths and therefore pays double the price.....$25.50 per foot. That
rate
eats up a cruising kitty pretty fast!

I will never own a catamaran - not
because I don't like them - but because the boat I have now will be my last
one.  We're off the the South Pacific next year in our slow but comfortable
trawler.

Boats.....I love them all!

Patrick
Willard 40PH
ALOHA
La Paz, MX


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Patrick: I'll write up a trip report over the next couple days... but, I just spent the last few days cruising out of La Paz. I kept looking forward but our paths never crossed.. unless.. I did see one motor-sailor looking boat running north about noon today... -Ken W -----Original Message----- From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Gerety Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 10:04 AM To: Passagemaking Under Power List Subject: Re: [PUP] Motor/sailing Vessels My trawler is relativey skinny as far as trawlers go. My LOA is 40'-6" with a 13'-8" beam. It has a very fine entry with a canoe stern. The hull exhibits the characteristics of a sailboat more so than any other production trawler on the market. Consequently the hull is very efficient and seakindly for a trawler. I get between 4 and 5 nmpg (depending on sea conditions) at 7.5 knot, which seems to be the "sweet spot" for my boat. The downside is that my interior space is more confined than most production trawlers on the market today. Although my boat is a 100% trawler, I do carry a downwind genoa that I hank on whenever the mood strikes me. Since I have essentially a sailboat hull, it is easily driven by a sail and benefits most from the addition of a sail. This downwind genoa increases my range (which is already 3000+ miles without the sail), provides some stabilization, is my emergency "get somewhere" system, and is just plain "fun" for an old time rag bagger like me. The genoa I have now is a bit small but is good in heavier wind. I will be getting a larger genoa in a lighter sailcloth for those conditions less than say, 20 knots of wind. My boat is really not a motorsailer, but I treat it as if it were. I think I have the best of both worlds. With regards to catamarans, I am fascinated by them. I envy their large saloons and "potential" for speed. But then again, my boat is more than big enough for the two of us and four people in a pinch. And besides, I am not in a hurry to get anywhere. One complaint that hear from my catamaran colleagues here in the marina is the cost of berthing for a cat. The marina here in La Paz is charging USD$ 12.75 a foot for a 40 foot monohull boat. A catamaran takes up two berths and therefore pays double the price.....$25.50 per foot. That rate eats up a cruising kitty pretty fast! I will never own a catamaran - not because I don't like them - but because the boat I have now will be my last one. We're off the the South Pacific next year in our slow but comfortable trawler. Boats.....I love them all! Patrick Willard 40PH ALOHA La Paz, MX _______________________________________________ Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions. To be removed from the PUP list send an email with the subject "unsubscribe" (no quotes) to the link below: mailto:passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List
KW
Ken Williams
Mon, Mar 19, 2007 3:01 AM

Oops...  I should know better. My apologies. I didn't mean to email this to
the list. It won't happen again.

-Ken W

-----Original Message-----
From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of
Ken Williams
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 7:51 PM
To: 'Passagemaking Under Power List'
Subject: Re: [PUP] Motor/sailing Vessels

Patrick:

I'll write up a trip report over the next couple days... but,

I just spent the last few days cruising out of La Paz. I kept looking
forward but our paths never crossed.. unless.. I did see one motor-sailor
looking boat running north about noon today...

-Ken W

Oops... I should know better. My apologies. I didn't mean to email this to the list. It won't happen again. -Ken W -----Original Message----- From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Ken Williams Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 7:51 PM To: 'Passagemaking Under Power List' Subject: Re: [PUP] Motor/sailing Vessels Patrick: I'll write up a trip report over the next couple days... but, I just spent the last few days cruising out of La Paz. I kept looking forward but our paths never crossed.. unless.. I did see one motor-sailor looking boat running north about noon today... -Ken W