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brian eiland
Thu, Dec 28, 2006 2:28 PM
I saw the 41 briefly in Stuart a couple of weeks ago. Compared to
our 34, it sure seemed BIG! There's little doubt that this boat will
provide more live-aboard comfort as well as superior sea-keeping
qualities - as compared to her little sister. But, with the price
moving quickly toward the $600,000 mark, I can't say that I am
immediately tempted to place an order.
Henry Clews
PDQ 34 Sno' Dog
Brian ask:
How do many of the other list members feel about a 600K price tag for this
size and quality vessel, reguardless of whether or not they are interested in
this particular product??
Brian Eiland
beiland@usa.net
www.RunningTideYachts.com
distinctive expedition yachts
> I saw the 41 briefly in Stuart a couple of weeks ago. Compared to
> our 34, it sure seemed BIG! There's little doubt that this boat will
> provide more live-aboard comfort as well as superior sea-keeping
> qualities - as compared to her little sister. But, with the price
> moving quickly toward the $600,000 mark, I can't say that I am
> immediately tempted to place an order.
>
> Henry Clews
> PDQ 34 Sno' Dog
_____________________________________________________________
Brian ask:
How do many of the other list members feel about a 600K price tag for this
size and quality vessel, reguardless of whether or not they are interested in
this particular product??
Brian Eiland
beiland@usa.net
www.RunningTideYachts.com
distinctive expedition yachts
RB
Roger Bingham
Thu, Dec 28, 2006 2:49 PM
Brian ask:
How do many of the other list members feel about a 600K price
tag for this size and quality vessel, reguardless of whether
or not they are interested in this particular product??
Brian Eiland
Brian, a good question.
The builders asking price, of course, is only a part of the total cost.
Here in France you would have to add 19.6% taxes plus shipping costs of
maybe #18K
To bring the equipment levels to my preferred standard and to add a tender,
outboard and safety equipment would add further to the base price.
Even the PDQ 34 is pushed to the top of my budget of #200K.
So OK, the 41 is out of my budget but the answer to your question is "It
depends".
If you have the bunce it's OK - if you haven't, it's not.
Regards
Roger Bingham
France
> Brian ask:
> How do many of the other list members feel about a 600K price
> tag for this size and quality vessel, reguardless of whether
> or not they are interested in this particular product??
>
>
> Brian Eiland
Brian, a good question.
The builders asking price, of course, is only a part of the total cost.
Here in France you would have to add 19.6% taxes plus shipping costs of
maybe #18K
To bring the equipment levels to my preferred standard and to add a tender,
outboard and safety equipment would add further to the base price.
Even the PDQ 34 is pushed to the top of my budget of #200K.
So OK, the 41 is out of my budget but the answer to your question is "It
depends".
If you have the bunce it's OK - if you haven't, it's not.
Regards
Roger Bingham
France
RB
Roger Bingham
Thu, Dec 28, 2006 2:57 PM
The currency I used in the examples is Pounds Sterling.
Roger Bingham
France
The currency I used in the examples is Pounds Sterling.
Roger Bingham
France
DC
D C *Mac* Macdonald
Thu, Dec 28, 2006 3:14 PM
And, if I remember comment from son living in England,
it takes $1.90 (USD) to obtain 1 pound Sterling. That
would amount to about 31l6,000 pounds Sterling.
Add all the European socialist taxes and transport, and
you have a really pricey boat that may not even be
suited to European usage.
- D C "Mac" Macdonald *
- m/v Another Adventure *
- Grand Lake - Oklahoma *
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From: "Roger Bingham" rbingham@tele2.fr
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To: "'Power Catamaran List'" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] PDQ 41 article in Power Cruising
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:57:01 +0100
The currency I used in the examples is Pounds Sterling.
Roger Bingham
France
And, if I remember comment from son living in England,
it takes $1.90 (USD) to obtain 1 pound Sterling. That
would amount to about 31l6,000 pounds Sterling.
Add all the European socialist taxes and transport, and
you have a really pricey boat that may not even be
suited to European usage.
* D C "Mac" Macdonald *
* m/v Another Adventure *
* Grand Lake - Oklahoma *
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Roger Bingham" <rbingham@tele2.fr>
Reply-To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
To: "'Power Catamaran List'" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Subject: Re: [PCW] PDQ 41 article in Power Cruising
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:57:01 +0100
The currency I used in the examples is Pounds Sterling.
Roger Bingham
France
DC
D C *Mac* Macdonald
Thu, Dec 28, 2006 3:15 PM
OOPS! Fat fingers. I meant to type 316,000 Pounds Sterling.
Mac
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From: "D C Mac Macdonald" k2gkk@hotmail.com
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To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] PDQ 41 article in Power Cruising
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:14:10 -0600
And, if I remember comment from son living in England,
it takes $1.90 (USD) to obtain 1 pound Sterling. That
would amount to about 31l6,000 pounds Sterling.
Add all the European socialist taxes and transport, and
you have a really pricey boat that may not even be
suited to European usage.
- D C "Mac" Macdonald *
- m/v Another Adventure *
- Grand Lake - Oklahoma *
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Roger Bingham" rbingham@tele2.fr
Reply-To: Power Catamaran List power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
To: "'Power Catamaran List'" power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] PDQ 41 article in Power Cruising
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:57:01 +0100
The currency I used in the examples is Pounds Sterling.
Roger Bingham
France
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
OOPS! Fat fingers. I meant to type 316,000 Pounds Sterling.
Mac
----Original Message Follows----
From: "D C *Mac* Macdonald" <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] PDQ 41 article in Power Cruising
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:14:10 -0600
And, if I remember comment from son living in England,
it takes $1.90 (USD) to obtain 1 pound Sterling. That
would amount to about 31l6,000 pounds Sterling.
Add all the European socialist taxes and transport, and
you have a really pricey boat that may not even be
suited to European usage.
* D C "Mac" Macdonald *
* m/v Another Adventure *
* Grand Lake - Oklahoma *
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Roger Bingham" <rbingham@tele2.fr>
Reply-To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
To: "'Power Catamaran List'" <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Subject: Re: [PCW] PDQ 41 article in Power Cruising
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:57:01 +0100
The currency I used in the examples is Pounds Sterling.
Roger Bingham
France
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Georgs Kolesnikovs
Thu, Dec 28, 2006 4:12 PM
I saw the 41 briefly in Stuart a couple of weeks ago. Compared to
our 34, it sure seemed BIG! There's little doubt that this boat will
provide more live-aboard comfort as well as superior sea-keeping
qualities - as compared to her little sister. But, with the price
moving quickly toward the $600,000 mark, I can't say that I am
immediately tempted to place an order.
Henry Clews
PDQ 34 Sno' Dog
Brian ask:
How do many of the other list members feel about a 600K price tag for this
size and quality vessel, reguardless of whether or not they are interested in
this particular product??
Perhaps it would be meaningful to compare the PDQ 41 against the competition?
The AfriCat 420 lists at $685,300 fairly well equipped.
Anyone have the current manufacturer's price for the Endeavour
TrawlerCat 40, Endeavour TrawlerCat 44, Manta 44 and Fountaine-Pajot
Cumberland 44?
--Georgs
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World launches in January 2007
http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
> > I saw the 41 briefly in Stuart a couple of weeks ago. Compared to
>> our 34, it sure seemed BIG! There's little doubt that this boat will
>> provide more live-aboard comfort as well as superior sea-keeping
>> qualities - as compared to her little sister. But, with the price
>> moving quickly toward the $600,000 mark, I can't say that I am
>> immediately tempted to place an order.
>>
>> Henry Clews
>> PDQ 34 Sno' Dog
>_____________________________________________________________
>Brian ask:
>How do many of the other list members feel about a 600K price tag for this
>size and quality vessel, reguardless of whether or not they are interested in
>this particular product??
Perhaps it would be meaningful to compare the PDQ 41 against the competition?
The AfriCat 420 lists at $685,300 fairly well equipped.
Anyone have the current manufacturer's price for the Endeavour
TrawlerCat 40, Endeavour TrawlerCat 44, Manta 44 and Fountaine-Pajot
Cumberland 44?
--Georgs
--
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Power Catamaran World launches in January 2007
http://www.powercatamaranworld.com
RB
Roger Bingham
Thu, Dec 28, 2006 5:02 PM
Hi Georgs
Aeroyacht are showing (via www.yachtworld.com ) a FP Cumberland 44 at USD
683,520
Appears to be standard spec - NO genny, NO aircon, NO heating, NO holding
tanks. Includes some electronics.
Trawlers Midwest are showing (via www.yachtworld.com ) a new Lagoon Power 44
at USD 550,000. From my experience the extras necessary to bring this up to
cruising specs could add a further USD 100,000
Perhaps supporting my earlier statement, a previously owned 2006 Lagoon
Power 44 with full specs is also shown on (via www.yachtworld.com ) at USD
745,00
I believe that production has ceased on the Alliaura Privilege Transcat 42
which was priced around USD 450,000 - this to concentrate on the larger
(much more profitable??) Transcat 48.
Regards
Roger Bingham
France
Hi Georgs
Aeroyacht are showing (via www.yachtworld.com ) a FP Cumberland 44 at USD
683,520
Appears to be standard spec - NO genny, NO aircon, NO heating, NO holding
tanks. Includes some electronics.
Trawlers Midwest are showing (via www.yachtworld.com ) a new Lagoon Power 44
at USD 550,000. From my experience the extras necessary to bring this up to
cruising specs could add a further USD 100,000
Perhaps supporting my earlier statement, a previously owned 2006 Lagoon
Power 44 with full specs is also shown on (via www.yachtworld.com ) at USD
745,00
I believe that production has ceased on the Alliaura Privilege Transcat 42
which was priced around USD 450,000 - this to concentrate on the larger
(much more profitable??) Transcat 48.
Regards
Roger Bingham
France
GS
Greg Schoenberg
Sun, Dec 31, 2006 6:16 AM
Brian ask:
How do many of the other list members feel about a 600K price tag for this
size and quality vessel, reguardless of whether or not they are interested
Interesting question. We just got a 2002 25 foot Regal for 31k. Clean
creme puff, only 140 hours, dry docked, etc. But.....for another 570k, we
can acquire another 18-20 feet of boat. No thanks.
-Greg---> an eventual owner of creme puff cat.
> Brian ask:
> How do many of the other list members feel about a 600K price tag for this
> size and quality vessel, reguardless of whether or not they are interested
in
> this particular product??
>
>
> Brian Eiland
>
> beiland@usa.net
> www.RunningTideYachts.com
Interesting question. We just got a 2002 25 foot Regal for 31k. Clean
creme puff, only 140 hours, dry docked, etc. But.....for another 570k, we
can acquire another 18-20 feet of boat. No thanks.
-Greg---> an eventual owner of creme puff cat.
DC
D C *Mac* Macdonald
Sun, Dec 31, 2006 1:15 PM
And how much gasoline can you buy
for 570 kilobucks, Greg??
<GRIN>
- D C "Mac" Macdonald *
- m/v Another Adventure *
- Grand Lake - Oklahoma *
- USPS and AGLCA (#217) *
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Greg Schoenberg" dene@ipns.com
Brian ask:
How do many of the other list members feel about a 600K price tag for this
size and quality vessel, reguardless of whether or not they are interested
in this particular product??
Interesting question. We just got a 2002 25 foot
Regal for 31k. Clean cream puff, only 140 hours,
dry docked, etc. But.....for another 570k, we
can acquire another 18-20 feet of boat.
No thanks.
-Greg---> an eventual owner of creme puff cat.
And how much gasoline can you buy
for 570 kilobucks, Greg??
<GRIN>
* D C "Mac" Macdonald *
* m/v Another Adventure *
* Grand Lake - Oklahoma *
* USPS and AGLCA (#217) *
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Greg Schoenberg" <dene@ipns.com>
>Brian ask:
>How do many of the other list members feel about a 600K price tag for this
>size and quality vessel, reguardless of whether or not they are interested
>in this particular product??
>Brian Eiland
>beiland@usa.net
>www.RunningTideYachts.com
-----
Interesting question. We just got a 2002 25 foot
Regal for 31k. Clean cream puff, only 140 hours,
dry docked, etc. But.....for another 570k, we
can acquire another 18-20 feet of boat.
No thanks.
-Greg---> an eventual owner of creme puff cat.
GS
Greg Schoenberg
Sun, Dec 31, 2006 9:47 PM
Rots and Rots and Rots of gas. :>
Just to expand my thoughts about larger boats, our 25 footer does everything
a larger boat does (for my wife and I) in relation to inland cruising. I
can see the merits of a larger boat if you are a liveaboard, entertaining,
or cruise the coast. Fortunately, none of these apply to us. Instead, we
enjoy cruising 30 mph on 2.5+ mpg, paying less in moorage fees, and the
ability to trailer it to other places (like Puget Sound) if we desired.
Adding 2 to 5 feet adds no real improvements....just more money.
Regarding liveaboarding....someday we'll do this when we cruise the loop,
but the idea of this, 24/7, for years doesn't appeal to me. Why not buy a
boathouse with an apartment while mooring a smaller, more flexible boat/Cat?
At least your $$ is invested in an appreciable property vs. a 600k boat.
-Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "D C Mac Macdonald" k2gkk@hotmail.com
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: [PCW] PDQ 41 article in Power Cruising
And how much gasoline can you buy
for 570 kilobucks, Greg??
<GRIN>
- D C "Mac" Macdonald *
- m/v Another Adventure *
- Grand Lake - Oklahoma *
- USPS and AGLCA (#217) *
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Greg Schoenberg" dene@ipns.com
Brian ask:
How do many of the other list members feel about a 600K price tag for
size and quality vessel, reguardless of whether or not they are
in this particular product??
Interesting question. We just got a 2002 25 foot
Regal for 31k. Clean cream puff, only 140 hours,
dry docked, etc. But.....for another 570k, we
can acquire another 18-20 feet of boat.
No thanks.
-Greg---> an eventual owner of creme puff cat.
Power-Catamaran Mailing List
Rots and Rots and Rots of gas. :>
Just to expand my thoughts about larger boats, our 25 footer does everything
a larger boat does (for my wife and I) in relation to inland cruising. I
can see the merits of a larger boat if you are a liveaboard, entertaining,
or cruise the coast. Fortunately, none of these apply to us. Instead, we
enjoy cruising 30 mph on 2.5+ mpg, paying less in moorage fees, and the
ability to trailer it to other places (like Puget Sound) if we desired.
Adding 2 to 5 feet adds no real improvements....just more money.
Regarding liveaboarding....someday we'll do this when we cruise the loop,
but the idea of this, 24/7, for years doesn't appeal to me. Why not buy a
boathouse with an apartment while mooring a smaller, more flexible boat/Cat?
At least your $$ is invested in an appreciable property vs. a 600k boat.
-Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "D C *Mac* Macdonald" <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
To: <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: [PCW] PDQ 41 article in Power Cruising
> And how much gasoline can you buy
> for 570 kilobucks, Greg??
>
> <GRIN>
>
> * D C "Mac" Macdonald *
> * m/v Another Adventure *
> * Grand Lake - Oklahoma *
> * USPS and AGLCA (#217) *
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Greg Schoenberg" <dene@ipns.com>
>
> >Brian ask:
> >How do many of the other list members feel about a 600K price tag for
this
> >size and quality vessel, reguardless of whether or not they are
interested
> >in this particular product??
>
> >Brian Eiland
> >beiland@usa.net
> >www.RunningTideYachts.com
>
> -----
>
> Interesting question. We just got a 2002 25 foot
> Regal for 31k. Clean cream puff, only 140 hours,
> dry docked, etc. But.....for another 570k, we
> can acquire another 18-20 feet of boat.
> No thanks.
>
> -Greg---> an eventual owner of creme puff cat.
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