------------------------------ Subject: Re: [PUP] World Odd @ Sea across the Atlantic RE - I'm not aware of all the requirements, but could you tell us which ones you thought were not worth doing, and why? There were dozens of requirements - probably the most valuable was an hour + inspection by three very skilled people (free). Regards, John --------------------- I agree with John, except I would include the hours from Lugger, Fureno, Village Maine (watermaker) as very valuble. I also learned alot about how other boaters prepare to cross oceans. While not as useful as the free reviews, also valuable. In addition I got to see how many other boats handled the seas. That was really interesting. Having cleared in/out of countries where it took most of the day, the NAR clearing in of 5 minutes or less was nice! Having the bulk discount on the fuel was great, that saved me thousands! Waiting days till it was my turn for fuel was like waiting for the fuel to arrive at the pumps in Mexico for me. our style of boat. NOTHING was more valuable then Nordhavn's recommended spares list customized for your model and hull number! Some boats had a history of cetain items failing, they knew and told you, that was GREAT! I also really benefited from the pretrip survey list. I use that to prepare our boat for each trip. It was not some general list, it covered OUR boat equipment. Finally the manuals and checklists were also very valuable. While I had a bunch, it was nice to get ones customized for ---------------------- My comment on requirements I thought were less useful 1. Skymate, I am still having problems with it. 2. Extra flares. 3. A/C dewatering system. (I have a DC one that is less then 8,000 gph but does not need A/C power). 4. Bucket. While I had them, I am not sure what good they would do on a powerboat big enough to cross the Atlantic. In reviewing the list now after the NAR it makes more sense then it did before going. Notes: I did not have a MOB pole, I just went with Lifesling and light. It was listed as an option in appendix C-2. The towing eye for me was over a thousand dollars. I hated the requirement. I understand why Nordhavn had the requirement, it is less safe to tow a boat from 9 feet above the water. The 47 bow is 9 feet above the waterline. Lower lines helps control the bow from hunting and burying itself which puts unnecessary stain on the tow boat. Nordhavn had to be prepared to tow a vessel. If I was going to have to tow a vessel a thousand miles, I would want to be towing from the waterline. Do not give waivers for Radar Reflector. Every boat needs a good one ehrn in a convoy. One of our boats did not have one and could not be seen by some radars. Do not have boats give position by lat, long but by position from one boat! That way we can know how is coming too close on the port side! I would require a second VHF from inside the pilothouse. A handheld with plug in 12 volt power supply would be acceptable. This is due to the number of conversations that took place off channel 16, this limed the abilty to call someone comming in close too you. Best suggestion for the next NAR! Better advice for installing and using a pasarellel.