One of the police chiefs with whom I work would like to require new officers
sign a promissory note before they are hired that obligates the officer to
repay training expenses incurred by the municipality. He is proposing a
note similar to the one CLEET requires. Hes talked with some other chiefs
who do this.
Do any of your municipalities have such a requirement? I have looked at the
CLEET provisions and dont see anything that would prevent a municipality
from imposing a similar requirement unless 70 O.S. § 3311(N) is considered
the municipalitys exclusive remedy in the event an officer leaves. (I
dont see any decisions or AG opinions addressing that question)
Thanks for any input.
Kim Spady
I would consider that might be something that requires negotiation in a CBA, it is not already addressed.
Jonathan E. Miller
City Attorney
City of Mustang
1885 Piedmont Road N., Suite B
P.O. Box 546
Piedmont, Oklahoma 73078
Telephone: (405) 883-6266
Facsimile: (405) 883-6155
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From: Oama oama-bounces@lists.imla.org On Behalf Of Kimberlee Spady
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 3:57 PM
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Subject: [Oama] Promissory Note - LEO Training
One of the police chiefs with whom I work would like to require new officers sign a promissory note before they are hired that obligates the officer to repay training expenses incurred by the municipality. He is proposing a note similar to the one CLEET requires. He's talked with some other chiefs who do this.
Do any of your municipalities have such a requirement? I have looked at the CLEET provisions and don't see anything that would prevent a municipality from imposing a similar requirement unless 70 O.S. § 3311(N) is considered the municipality's exclusive remedy in the event an officer leaves. (I don't see any decisions or AG opinions addressing that question)
Thanks for any input.
Kim Spady
Good point Jonathan. Not sure how you envision this to work but typically this is a part of the pre-employment agreement so presumably if they can't sign the promissory note then they don't meet the conditions to be employed. Also, CBA's don't typically cover probationary employees so you would not have to negotiate something like this, in my opinion. But, every CBA is different so you definitely need to check that first.
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From: Oama oama-bounces@lists.imla.org On Behalf Of Jon Miller
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:41 PM
To: Kimberlee Spady Kim@spadylaw.com; oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: Re: [Oama] Promissory Note - LEO Training
I would consider that might be something that requires negotiation in a CBA, it is not already addressed.
Jonathan E. Miller
City Attorney
City of Mustang
1885 Piedmont Road N., Suite B
P.O. Box 546
Piedmont, Oklahoma 73078
Telephone: (405) 883-6266
Facsimile: (405) 883-6155
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From: Oama <oama-bounces@lists.imla.orgmailto:oama-bounces@lists.imla.org> On Behalf Of Kimberlee Spady
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 3:57 PM
To: oama@lists.imla.orgmailto:oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Promissory Note - LEO Training
One of the police chiefs with whom I work would like to require new officers sign a promissory note before they are hired that obligates the officer to repay training expenses incurred by the municipality. He is proposing a note similar to the one CLEET requires. He's talked with some other chiefs who do this.
Do any of your municipalities have such a requirement? I have looked at the CLEET provisions and don't see anything that would prevent a municipality from imposing a similar requirement unless 70 O.S. § 3311(N) is considered the municipality's exclusive remedy in the event an officer leaves. (I don't see any decisions or AG opinions addressing that question)
Thanks for any input.
Kim Spady