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Chris Erickson

Mon, Sep 12, 2011 7:07 AM

As to the proprietary probe connector on these - instead of trying to find
the correct connector and fabricate probes, has anyone just replaced the
input panel and fabricated a new one with standard banana plugs? Thinking of
buying one because I can't afford a 3458a, but that probe jack is
ridiculous. I think that'd be the first thing I would do to it after
verifying it worked properly. Is there some reason this hasn't been done?
What was the thinking behind that design besides holding you hostage and
forcing you to buy all your probes from them as well?

Thanks,

Chris Erickson

As to the proprietary probe connector on these - instead of trying to find the correct connector and fabricate probes, has anyone just replaced the input panel and fabricated a new one with standard banana plugs? Thinking of buying one because I can't afford a 3458a, but that probe jack is ridiculous. I think that'd be the first thing I would do to it after verifying it worked properly. Is there some reason this hasn't been done? What was the thinking behind that design besides holding you hostage and forcing you to buy all your probes from them as well? Thanks, Chris Erickson

RA

Robert Atkinson

Mon, Sep 12, 2011 5:02 PM

Hi Chris,
It's not proprietary, It's a stock Fischer connector. Check the archive (possibly time nut too) for the part number.

Robert G8RPI.

--- On Mon, 12/9/11, Chris Erickson ericksonc2@comcast.net wrote:

From: Chris Erickson ericksonc2@comcast.net
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081 Test Leads
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Date: Monday, 12 September, 2011, 8:07

As to the proprietary probe connector on these - instead of trying to find
the correct connector and fabricate probes, has anyone just replaced the
input panel and fabricated a new one with standard banana plugs? Thinking of
buying one because I can't afford a 3458a, but that probe jack is
ridiculous. I think that'd be the first thing I would do to it after
verifying it worked properly. Is there some reason this hasn't been done?
What was the thinking behind that design besides holding you hostage and
forcing you to buy all your probes from them as well?

Thanks,

Chris Erickson

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Hi Chris, It's not proprietary, It's a stock Fischer connector. Check the archive (possibly time nut too) for the part number. Robert G8RPI. --- On Mon, 12/9/11, Chris Erickson <ericksonc2@comcast.net> wrote: From: Chris Erickson <ericksonc2@comcast.net> Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081 Test Leads To: volt-nuts@febo.com Date: Monday, 12 September, 2011, 8:07 As to the proprietary probe connector on these - instead of trying to find the correct connector and fabricate probes, has anyone just replaced the input panel and fabricated a new one with standard banana plugs? Thinking of buying one because I can't afford a 3458a, but that probe jack is ridiculous. I think that'd be the first thing I would do to it after verifying it worked properly. Is there some reason this hasn't been done? What was the thinking behind that design besides holding you hostage and forcing you to buy all your probes from them as well? Thanks, Chris Erickson _______________________________________________ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.

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J. L. Trantham

Tue, Sep 13, 2011 3:55 AM

Chris,

I share your frustration about the 'special' connector for the test leads.
However, it is an 'off the shelf' item from Fischer Connectors. In
addition, I am partial to trying to keep my instruments in their 'factory
original' configuration if possible. I don't know what it was that made
them design the meter the way they did but Mickle's thought that is was to
minimize the tempco issues is as plausible as any I can come up with.

That being said, I wonder if one could capitalize on the connector by
utilizing it's ability to 'lock' the connector in place, requiring the outer
sleeve to be 'pulled' in order to disconnect it.

I wonder if a small box could be constructed with outer dimensions of which
would be the same as the small vertical rectangle on the right hand side of
the panel that contains the 'CAL' switch, the 'Front/Rear' switch and the
connector. If the dimensions were able to just fit inside the opening
(there is about an eighth inch lip or recess) with a 'rear panel' onto which
one could mount a panel mount male connector (also an off the shelf item
with Fischer) and with a 'front panel' that would mount 5 binding posts with
the appropriate spacing which would be wired to the connector. It would
require some sort of 'release' mechanism to 'release' the sleeve and allow
the unit to be removed. It would be nice to incorporate some sort of 'push
button' to activate the 'Front/Rear' switch.

If successful, it would require no modifications to the 7081 itself and be
easily removable to have access to the 'CAL' switch and put the meter back
in it's 'factory original' state, leaving no mark behind.

The only limitation I see is whether or not the front panel connector is
structurally sound enough to tolerate the day to day connections and
disconnections of banana plugs.

It would require some effort but I would be interested in such an item. It
would appear that Mickle has the necessary machining talents to pull this
off.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Erickson
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:08 AM
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081 Test Leads

As to the proprietary probe connector on these - instead of trying to find
the correct connector and fabricate probes, has anyone just replaced the
input panel and fabricated a new one with standard banana plugs? Thinking of
buying one because I can't afford a 3458a, but that probe jack is
ridiculous. I think that'd be the first thing I would do to it after
verifying it worked properly. Is there some reason this hasn't been done?
What was the thinking behind that design besides holding you hostage and
forcing you to buy all your probes from them as well?

Thanks,

Chris Erickson

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Chris, I share your frustration about the 'special' connector for the test leads. However, it is an 'off the shelf' item from Fischer Connectors. In addition, I am partial to trying to keep my instruments in their 'factory original' configuration if possible. I don't know what it was that made them design the meter the way they did but Mickle's thought that is was to minimize the tempco issues is as plausible as any I can come up with. That being said, I wonder if one could capitalize on the connector by utilizing it's ability to 'lock' the connector in place, requiring the outer sleeve to be 'pulled' in order to disconnect it. I wonder if a small box could be constructed with outer dimensions of which would be the same as the small vertical rectangle on the right hand side of the panel that contains the 'CAL' switch, the 'Front/Rear' switch and the connector. If the dimensions were able to just fit inside the opening (there is about an eighth inch lip or recess) with a 'rear panel' onto which one could mount a panel mount male connector (also an off the shelf item with Fischer) and with a 'front panel' that would mount 5 binding posts with the appropriate spacing which would be wired to the connector. It would require some sort of 'release' mechanism to 'release' the sleeve and allow the unit to be removed. It would be nice to incorporate some sort of 'push button' to activate the 'Front/Rear' switch. If successful, it would require no modifications to the 7081 itself and be easily removable to have access to the 'CAL' switch and put the meter back in it's 'factory original' state, leaving no mark behind. The only limitation I see is whether or not the front panel connector is structurally sound enough to tolerate the day to day connections and disconnections of banana plugs. It would require some effort but I would be interested in such an item. It would appear that Mickle has the necessary machining talents to pull this off. Joe -----Original Message----- From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Chris Erickson Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:08 AM To: volt-nuts@febo.com Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081 Test Leads As to the proprietary probe connector on these - instead of trying to find the correct connector and fabricate probes, has anyone just replaced the input panel and fabricated a new one with standard banana plugs? Thinking of buying one because I can't afford a 3458a, but that probe jack is ridiculous. I think that'd be the first thing I would do to it after verifying it worked properly. Is there some reason this hasn't been done? What was the thinking behind that design besides holding you hostage and forcing you to buy all your probes from them as well? Thanks, Chris Erickson _______________________________________________ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.

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