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OT: PCB Design and Manufacture

LM
Leonard Martin Struttmann
Mon, Dec 12, 2022 4:14 AM

This is somewhat off topic.  Please ignore if not appropriate to this group.

Most of my OpenSCAD 3D designs these days are for tiny IoT (Internet of
Things) projects.  I've grown tired of my messy wire-and-solder prototyping
and I would like to step up to using one of the reasonably priced PCB
companies.

  1. Has anyone here tried Flux.ai for PCB design? Is it any good?  Any other
    suggestions?

  2. Does anyone here have a favorite low-volume (1-5) PCB manufacturer?

Thanks!

Len

This is somewhat off topic. Please ignore if not appropriate to this group. Most of my OpenSCAD 3D designs these days are for tiny IoT (Internet of Things) projects. I've grown tired of my messy wire-and-solder prototyping and I would like to step up to using one of the reasonably priced PCB companies. 1. Has anyone here tried Flux.ai for PCB design? Is it any good? Any other suggestions? 2. Does anyone here have a favorite low-volume (1-5) PCB manufacturer? Thanks! Len
FS
FF Systems
Mon, Dec 12, 2022 4:35 AM

I've only used high-end layout packages, so I can't help with Flux.ai
(never even heard of it before now).

As for PCB FABs, I have two that I can recommend:
Domestic (US): Advanced Circuits (4pcb.com) has generally had a couple of
"specials" that are good for low-runs.  Their $33 special gives you 4
boards (2 layer) for $33 each.  A $66 special gives 4 boards (4 layers) for
$66 each.  Shipping not included, some restrictions apply, assuming they
still offer these specials (I haven't availed myself of them for a few
years now).
Asia: jlcpcb.com has fast response and prices that are hard to beat.  You
can generally expect to get 5 pieces of a 2-layer board delivered to you in
under 2 weeks (usually closer to 1wk) for less than $50 (most of which is
express DHL shipping).  4-layer designs are not much more and deliver about
as fast.  They also offer a choice of thicknesses which many quick-turn
shops shy away from.  Overall, the quality is as good as I could hope for
even dismissing the low cost.

All costs and delivery times are assuming a Continental US destination.  If
you are outside the US, your situation will vary.

Cheers,

Joe

On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 10:15 PM Leonard Martin Struttmann <
lenstruttmann@gmail.com> wrote:

This is somewhat off topic.  Please ignore if not appropriate to this
group.

Most of my OpenSCAD 3D designs these days are for tiny IoT (Internet of
Things) projects.  I've grown tired of my messy wire-and-solder prototyping
and I would like to step up to using one of the reasonably priced PCB
companies.

  1. Has anyone here tried Flux.ai for PCB design? Is it any good?  Any
    other suggestions?

  2. Does anyone here have a favorite low-volume (1-5) PCB manufacturer?

Thanks!

Len


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I've only used high-end layout packages, so I can't help with Flux.ai (never even heard of it before now). As for PCB FABs, I have two that I can recommend: Domestic (US): Advanced Circuits (4pcb.com) has generally had a couple of "specials" that are good for low-runs. Their $33 special gives you 4 boards (2 layer) for $33 each. A $66 special gives 4 boards (4 layers) for $66 each. Shipping not included, some restrictions apply, assuming they still offer these specials (I haven't availed myself of them for a few years now). Asia: jlcpcb.com has fast response and prices that are hard to beat. You can generally expect to get 5 pieces of a 2-layer board delivered to you in under 2 weeks (usually closer to 1wk) for less than $50 (most of which is express DHL shipping). 4-layer designs are not much more and deliver about as fast. They also offer a choice of thicknesses which many quick-turn shops shy away from. Overall, the quality is as good as I could hope for even dismissing the low cost. All costs and delivery times are assuming a Continental US destination. If you are outside the US, your situation will vary. Cheers, Joe On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 10:15 PM Leonard Martin Struttmann < lenstruttmann@gmail.com> wrote: > This is somewhat off topic. Please ignore if not appropriate to this > group. > > Most of my OpenSCAD 3D designs these days are for tiny IoT (Internet of > Things) projects. I've grown tired of my messy wire-and-solder prototyping > and I would like to step up to using one of the reasonably priced PCB > companies. > > 1. Has anyone here tried Flux.ai for PCB design? Is it any good? Any > other suggestions? > > 2. Does anyone here have a favorite low-volume (1-5) PCB manufacturer? > > Thanks! > > Len > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >
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jeremy ardley
Mon, Dec 12, 2022 4:49 AM

On 12/12/22 12:14, Leonard Martin Struttmann wrote:

This is somewhat off topic.  Please ignore if not appropriate to this
group.

Most of my OpenSCAD 3D designs these days are for tiny IoT (Internet
of Things) projects.  I've grown tired of my messy wire-and-solder
prototyping and I would like to step up to using one of the reasonably
priced PCB companies.

  1. Has anyone here tried Flux.ai for PCB design? Is it any good?  Any
    other suggestions?

  2. Does anyone here have a favorite low-volume (1-5) PCB manufacturer?

Thanks!

Len

Personally, I use kicad for EDA, which at my level of skill is more than
adequate.

However, there is a comparison of EDA tools that may be helpful.

https://sourceforge.net/software/compare/EasyEDA-vs-Flux.ai-vs-KiCad-EDA-vs-SOLIDWORKS/

--
Jeremy

On 12/12/22 12:14, Leonard Martin Struttmann wrote: > This is somewhat off topic.  Please ignore if not appropriate to this > group. > > Most of my OpenSCAD 3D designs these days are for tiny IoT (Internet > of Things) projects.  I've grown tired of my messy wire-and-solder > prototyping and I would like to step up to using one of the reasonably > priced PCB companies. > > 1. Has anyone here tried Flux.ai for PCB design? Is it any good?  Any > other suggestions? > > 2. Does anyone here have a favorite low-volume (1-5) PCB manufacturer? > > Thanks! > > Len > > Personally, I use kicad for EDA, which at my level of skill is more than adequate. However, there is a comparison of EDA tools that may be helpful. https://sourceforge.net/software/compare/EasyEDA-vs-Flux.ai-vs-KiCad-EDA-vs-SOLIDWORKS/ -- Jeremy