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All hands: anyone have input on the below? I have looked at the seawater units and the final filter removes 99.8% of microbes so my below message seems to be a viable alternative (for rainwater conversion to potable). RO desalinator/filter Horizon RO: http://www.hrosystems.com/hro_web/hro_tech/hro_tech_answers.html for boats.
Matt & Connie on the Mischief: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDi7PaJAYxc
Begin forwarded message:
From: Matt Mattson flagold@gate.net
Date: September 27, 2011 11:10:51 AM EDT
To: Larry
Subject: Reverse Osmosis System
Reply-To: Carl Mattson flagold@gate.net
Larry: this is what we have in our boat. These are on sale for $191.99, and do the same thing the water purification tablets do (removes 99.95% of cryptosporidium and Giardia) according to the tablets. The previous owner installed this system for his trip to S. America with the boat since you can't drink the water down there at all unless treated or finely filtered in some way (or boiled). The units you had looked at were reverse osmosis too converting saltwater to fresh, this would convert rainwater to potable I believe (I might get a little more feedback on this from the boating community shortly since I've copied them).
Matt
Matt,
Scroll down to Watermakers. I haven't decided yet which system, but have
been keeping track of what I'm finding. The "Atmospheric Water Generators"
are an interesting alternative (condensation water) as well.
We thought we'd want one for our travels to the Bahamas, but so far we've
had no problem getting RO water at all the marinas we visited. We carry 350
gallons of fresh water and can go quite a while before needing to replenish.
So for now, we're still looking and thinking about it.
Bob
Bob & Kemba DeGroot
Aboard M/V Spirit Dancer, DeFever 49 CMY
MTOA # 1896; DFCruisers # 857; AGLCA # 427; Lakewood Yacht Club
www.BoaterSites.com, Cell :713-876-8787, Skype: 1-281-506-2676 or
dr.bob.degroot
www.SalesHelp.com, www.MarinaCustomerServiceTraining.com
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[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mattson
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:44 AM
To: Americas Great Loop Cruising Association
Subject: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
All hands: anyone have input on the below? I have looked at the seawater
units and the final filter removes 99.8% of microbes so my below message
seems to be a viable alternative (for rainwater conversion to potable). RO
desalinator/filter Horizon RO:
http://www.hrosystems.com/hro_web/hro_tech/hro_tech_answers.html for boats.
Matt & Connie on the Mischief: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDi7PaJAYxc
Begin forwarded message:
From: Matt Mattson flagold@gate.net
Date: September 27, 2011 11:10:51 AM EDT
To: Larry
Subject: Reverse Osmosis System
Reply-To: Carl Mattson flagold@gate.net
Larry: this is what we have in our boat. These are on sale for $191.99,
and do the same thing the water purification tablets do (removes 99.95% of
cryptosporidium and Giardia) according to the tablets. The previous owner
installed this system for his trip to S. America with the boat since you
can't drink the water down there at all unless treated or finely filtered in
some way (or boiled). The units you had looked at were reverse osmosis too
converting saltwater to fresh, this would convert rainwater to potable I
believe (I might get a little more feedback on this from the boating
community shortly since I've copied them).
Matt
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Bob
Roughly estimating, how much does it cost in the Bahamas to buy RO water for
about month?
I have heard some claim that the expense of buying RO water there is far
cheaper than installing and maintaining a water maker.
thanks
R,.
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From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Bob DeGroot,
DCH
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:51 AM
To: 'Matt Mattson'; 'Americas Great Loop Cruising Association'
Subject: Re: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
Matt,
Scroll down to Watermakers. I haven't decided yet which system, but have
been keeping track of what I'm finding. The "Atmospheric Water Generators"
are an interesting alternative (condensation water) as well.
We thought we'd want one for our travels to the Bahamas, but so far we've
had no problem getting RO water at all the marinas we visited. We carry 350
gallons of fresh water and can go quite a while before needing to replenish.
So for now, we're still looking and thinking about it.
Bob
Bob & Kemba DeGroot
Aboard M/V Spirit Dancer, DeFever 49 CMY MTOA # 1896; DFCruisers # 857;
AGLCA # 427; Lakewood Yacht Club www.BoaterSites.com, Cell :713-876-8787,
Skype: 1-281-506-2676 or dr.bob.degroot www.SalesHelp.com,
www.MarinaCustomerServiceTraining.com
-----Original Message-----
From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mattson
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:44 AM
To: Americas Great Loop Cruising Association
Subject: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
All hands: anyone have input on the below? I have looked at the seawater
units and the final filter removes 99.8% of microbes so my below message
seems to be a viable alternative (for rainwater conversion to potable). RO
desalinator/filter Horizon RO:
http://www.hrosystems.com/hro_web/hro_tech/hro_tech_answers.html for boats.
Matt & Connie on the Mischief: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDi7PaJAYxc
Begin forwarded message:
From: Matt Mattson flagold@gate.net
Date: September 27, 2011 11:10:51 AM EDT
To: Larry
Subject: Reverse Osmosis System
Reply-To: Carl Mattson flagold@gate.net
Larry: this is what we have in our boat. These are on sale for
$191.99,
and do the same thing the water purification tablets do (removes 99.95% of
cryptosporidium and Giardia) according to the tablets. The previous owner
installed this system for his trip to S. America with the boat since you
can't drink the water down there at all unless treated or finely filtered in
some way (or boiled). The units you had looked at were reverse osmosis too
converting saltwater to fresh, this would convert rainwater to potable I
believe (I might get a little more feedback on this from the boating
community shortly since I've copied them).
Matt
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Ralph,
We paid anywhere from a nickel a gallon to an average of 20 cents a gallon
to as high as 40 cents a gallon (at the Atlantis Marina where dockage was
also $7.00 ft. and electric was $44 per 50 Amp cord). At the Nassau Harbor
Club, well water was $8.00 per day for as much or as little as you wanted -
but it's brackish and not for filling your water tanks.
We were in the Exumas for about three months and spent about $300 for water.
At $100 per month. An RO can run around $1,500 to $3,500 plus filter
replacements. That's about 20,000 gallons of water.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of ralph yost
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:04 AM
To: 'Americas Great Loop Cruising Association'
Subject: Re: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
Bob
Roughly estimating, how much does it cost in the Bahamas to buy RO water for
about month?
I have heard some claim that the expense of buying RO water there is far
cheaper than installing and maintaining a water maker.
thanks
R,.
-----Original Message-----
From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Bob DeGroot,
DCH
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:51 AM
To: 'Matt Mattson'; 'Americas Great Loop Cruising Association'
Subject: Re: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
Matt,
Scroll down to Watermakers. I haven't decided yet which system, but have
been keeping track of what I'm finding. The "Atmospheric Water Generators"
are an interesting alternative (condensation water) as well.
We thought we'd want one for our travels to the Bahamas, but so far we've
had no problem getting RO water at all the marinas we visited. We carry 350
gallons of fresh water and can go quite a while before needing to replenish.
So for now, we're still looking and thinking about it.
Bob
Bob & Kemba DeGroot
Aboard M/V Spirit Dancer, DeFever 49 CMY MTOA # 1896; DFCruisers # 857;
AGLCA # 427; Lakewood Yacht Club www.BoaterSites.com, Cell :713-876-8787,
Skype: 1-281-506-2676 or dr.bob.degroot www.SalesHelp.com,
www.MarinaCustomerServiceTraining.com
-----Original Message-----
From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mattson
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:44 AM
To: Americas Great Loop Cruising Association
Subject: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
All hands: anyone have input on the below? I have looked at the seawater
units and the final filter removes 99.8% of microbes so my below message
seems to be a viable alternative (for rainwater conversion to potable). RO
desalinator/filter Horizon RO:
http://www.hrosystems.com/hro_web/hro_tech/hro_tech_answers.html for boats.
Matt & Connie on the Mischief: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDi7PaJAYxc
Begin forwarded message:
From: Matt Mattson flagold@gate.net
Date: September 27, 2011 11:10:51 AM EDT
To: Larry
Subject: Reverse Osmosis System
Reply-To: Carl Mattson flagold@gate.net
Larry: this is what we have in our boat. These are on sale for
$191.99,
and do the same thing the water purification tablets do (removes 99.95% of
cryptosporidium and Giardia) according to the tablets. The previous owner
installed this system for his trip to S. America with the boat since you
can't drink the water down there at all unless treated or finely filtered in
some way (or boiled). The units you had looked at were reverse osmosis too
converting saltwater to fresh, this would convert rainwater to potable I
believe (I might get a little more feedback on this from the boating
community shortly since I've copied them).
Matt
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Hi -
We installed a watermaker before our first Bahamas trip last spring at a cost of approx $11k. Yes, that is a lot of money and you could buy a lot of water for that - but what it gave us was total freedom from land. We anchored out for almost a month without ever having to go into a marina - for us, that is what the Bahamas are all about.
It is very easy to maintain and has worked like a charm during both our extended trips there. We had six people on board and everyone was able to shower, flush the head, wash down dive gear etc. without worrying about water consumption. We would make water for an hour or so each day while running the genset to charge batteries etc.
Cheers,
Jo
MV Jonah's Whale
Endeavour 48
currently in Man-O-War Cay, Abaco
From: "Bob DeGroot, DCH" bob@saleshelp.com
To: ralph@alphacompservices.com; 'Americas Great Loop Cruising Association' great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
Ralph,
We paid anywhere from a nickel a gallon to an average of 20 cents a gallon
to as high as 40 cents a gallon (at the Atlantis Marina where dockage was
also $7.00 ft. and electric was $44 per 50 Amp cord). At the Nassau Harbor
Club, well water was $8.00 per day for as much or as little as you wanted -
but it's brackish and not for filling your water tanks.
We were in the Exumas for about three months and spent about $300 for water.
At $100 per month. An RO can run around $1,500 to $3,500 plus filter
replacements. That's about 20,000 gallons of water.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of ralph yost
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:04 AM
To: 'Americas Great Loop Cruising Association'
Subject: Re: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
Bob
Roughly estimating, how much does it cost in the Bahamas to buy RO water for
about month?
I have heard some claim that the expense of buying RO water there is far
cheaper than installing and maintaining a water maker.
thanks
R,.
-----Original Message-----
From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Bob DeGroot,
DCH
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:51 AM
To: 'Matt Mattson'; 'Americas Great Loop Cruising Association'
Subject: Re: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
Matt,
Scroll down to Watermakers. I haven't decided yet which system, but have
been keeping track of what I'm finding. The "Atmospheric Water Generators"
are an interesting alternative (condensation water) as well.
We thought we'd want one for our travels to the Bahamas, but so far we've
had no problem getting RO water at all the marinas we visited. We carry 350
gallons of fresh water and can go quite a while before needing to replenish.
So for now, we're still looking and thinking about it.
Bob
Bob & Kemba DeGroot
Aboard M/V Spirit Dancer, DeFever 49 CMY MTOA # 1896; DFCruisers # 857;
AGLCA # 427; Lakewood Yacht Club www.BoaterSites.com, Cell :713-876-8787,
Skype: 1-281-506-2676 or dr.bob.degroot www.SalesHelp.com,
www.MarinaCustomerServiceTraining.com
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Hey Jo,
Great points. It's really about how you use your boat. Since we're still
working, we need to be at a marina quite frequently for business mail, WiFi
connectivity, and so on. But we want to do what you do!!!! Spend a month on
the hook in the islands. As the tune goes . "someday soon."
Great WiFi in the Bahamas. And with our www.IslandTimePC.com booster and
router, we could pick up WiFi many miles away.
Bob
From: Jo Stanton [mailto:jaestanton@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:11 PM
To: Bob DeGroot, DCH; ralph@alphacompservices.com; 'Americas Great Loop
Cruising Association'
Subject: Re: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
Hi -
We installed a watermaker before our first Bahamas trip last spring at a
cost of approx $11k. Yes, that is a lot of money and you could buy a lot of
water for that - but what it gave us was total freedom from land. We
anchored out for almost a month without ever having to go into a marina -
for us, that is what the Bahamas are all about.
It is very easy to maintain and has worked like a charm during both our
extended trips there. We had six people on board and everyone was able to
shower, flush the head, wash down dive gear etc. without worrying about
water consumption. We would make water for an hour or so each day while
running the genset to charge batteries etc.
Cheers,
Jo
MV Jonah's Whale
Endeavour 48
currently in Man-O-War Cay, Abaco
From: "Bob DeGroot, DCH" bob@saleshelp.com
To: ralph@alphacompservices.com; 'Americas Great Loop Cruising Association'
great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
Ralph,
We paid anywhere from a nickel a gallon to an average of 20 cents a gallon
to as high as 40 cents a gallon (at the Atlantis Marina where dockage was
also $7.00 ft. and electric was $44 per 50 Amp cord). At the Nassau Harbor
Club, well water was $8.00 per day for as much or as little as you wanted -
but it's brackish and not for filling your water tanks.
We were in the Exumas for about three months and spent about $300 for water.
At $100 per month. An RO can run around $1,500 to $3,500 plus filter
replacements. That's about 20,000 gallons of water.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of ralph yost
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:04 AM
To: 'Americas Great Loop Cruising Association'
Subject: Re: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
Bob
Roughly estimating, how much does it cost in the Bahamas to buy RO water for
about month?
I have heard some claim that the expense of buying RO water there is far
cheaper than installing and maintaining a water maker.
thanks
R,.
-----Original Message-----
From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Bob DeGroot,
DCH
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:51 AM
To: 'Matt Mattson'; 'Americas Great Loop Cruising Association'
Subject: Re: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
Matt,
Scroll down to Watermakers. I haven't decided yet which system, but have
been keeping track of what I'm finding. The "Atmospheric Water Generators"
are an interesting alternative (condensation water) as well.
We thought we'd want one for our travels to the Bahamas, but so far we've
had no problem getting RO water at all the marinas we visited. We carry 350
gallons of fresh water and can go quite a while before needing to replenish.
So for now, we're still looking and thinking about it.
Bob
Bob & Kemba DeGroot
Aboard M/V Spirit Dancer, DeFever 49 CMY MTOA # 1896; DFCruisers # 857;
AGLCA # 427; Lakewood Yacht Club www.BoaterSites.com, Cell :713-876-8787,
Skype: 1-281-506-2676 or dr.bob.degroot www.SalesHelp.com,
www.MarinaCustomerServiceTraining.com
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For all you "Island Time" users make sure you have a VPN in place. Uncle Jeff has a section on VPNs in Active Captain.
Ed
"Alfie"
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On Sep 28, 2011, at 1:28 PM, "Bob DeGroot, DCH" bob@saleshelp.com wrote:
Hey Jo,
Great points. It's really about how you use your boat. Since we're still
working, we need to be at a marina quite frequently for business mail, WiFi
connectivity, and so on. But we want to do what you do!!!! Spend a month on
the hook in the islands. As the tune goes . "someday soon."
Great WiFi in the Bahamas. And with our www.IslandTimePC.com booster and
router, we could pick up WiFi many miles away.
Bob
From: Jo Stanton [mailto:jaestanton@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:11 PM
To: Bob DeGroot, DCH; ralph@alphacompservices.com; 'Americas Great Loop
Cruising Association'
Subject: Re: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
Hi -
We installed a watermaker before our first Bahamas trip last spring at a
cost of approx $11k. Yes, that is a lot of money and you could buy a lot of
water for that - but what it gave us was total freedom from land. We
anchored out for almost a month without ever having to go into a marina -
for us, that is what the Bahamas are all about.
It is very easy to maintain and has worked like a charm during both our
extended trips there. We had six people on board and everyone was able to
shower, flush the head, wash down dive gear etc. without worrying about
water consumption. We would make water for an hour or so each day while
running the genset to charge batteries etc.
Cheers,
Jo
MV Jonah's Whale
Endeavour 48
currently in Man-O-War Cay, Abaco
From: "Bob DeGroot, DCH" bob@saleshelp.com
To: ralph@alphacompservices.com; 'Americas Great Loop Cruising Association'
great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
Ralph,
We paid anywhere from a nickel a gallon to an average of 20 cents a gallon
to as high as 40 cents a gallon (at the Atlantis Marina where dockage was
also $7.00 ft. and electric was $44 per 50 Amp cord). At the Nassau Harbor
Club, well water was $8.00 per day for as much or as little as you wanted -
but it's brackish and not for filling your water tanks.
We were in the Exumas for about three months and spent about $300 for water.
At $100 per month. An RO can run around $1,500 to $3,500 plus filter
replacements. That's about 20,000 gallons of water.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of ralph yost
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:04 AM
To: 'Americas Great Loop Cruising Association'
Subject: Re: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
Bob
Roughly estimating, how much does it cost in the Bahamas to buy RO water for
about month?
I have heard some claim that the expense of buying RO water there is far
cheaper than installing and maintaining a water maker.
thanks
R,.
-----Original Message-----
From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Bob DeGroot,
DCH
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:51 AM
To: 'Matt Mattson'; 'Americas Great Loop Cruising Association'
Subject: Re: GL: Reverse Osmosis System
Matt,
Scroll down to Watermakers. I haven't decided yet which system, but have
been keeping track of what I'm finding. The "Atmospheric Water Generators"
are an interesting alternative (condensation water) as well.
We thought we'd want one for our travels to the Bahamas, but so far we've
had no problem getting RO water at all the marinas we visited. We carry 350
gallons of fresh water and can go quite a while before needing to replenish.
So for now, we're still looking and thinking about it.
Bob
Bob & Kemba DeGroot
Aboard M/V Spirit Dancer, DeFever 49 CMY MTOA # 1896; DFCruisers # 857;
AGLCA # 427; Lakewood Yacht Club www.BoaterSites.com, Cell :713-876-8787,
Skype: 1-281-506-2676 or dr.bob.degroot www.SalesHelp.com,
www.MarinaCustomerServiceTraining.com
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I've heard that some cruisers who have a Buddy Boat have obtained water from
their Buddy boat during their cruises. My question "Is their any market
(organized or unorganized) where you could purchase water from a fellow
cruiser"? This way you could possibly get reasonably priced water and help
increase the other boats cruising kitty? Just a thought
John Esch, AGLCA #2728
Carrollton, TX 75006
214-500-9478-John (Verizon)
Fet-Esch,a 48' Chung Hwa Seamaster
Currently "Backward Looping" and lying Anchorage Marina, Baltimore Inner
Harbor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob DeGroot, DCH" bob@saleshelp.com
To: ralph@alphacompservices.com; "'Americas Great Loop Cruising
Association'" great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: GL: Reverse Osmosis System