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Request for bid - Request for Proposal

JW
Joe Weaver
Tue, Jun 30, 2020 4:10 PM

We represent a Title 60 Public Trust (County is beneficiary).  Trust desires to contract for the purchase and installation of a complete audio/video system for a County facility.  The contractor will be required to provide all relevant audio, video and automation hardware and software for the design.  A question has arisen whether Trust must go out to bid for the equipment and installation (services) for the audio/video system pursuant to the Public Competitive Act (Title 61 O.S. sections 101 et seq. or whether the Trust can request proposals for the design and installation of the hardware and software for the system.

My initial thought is that because the design and installation of the audio/video system will require professional judgment and/or specialized knowledge not subject to uniform specifications, the Trust is not required to go out to bid for the system but can rather request proposals.

Any insight you can provide will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Joe Weaver


Joe Weaver
Attorney At Law
405.262.4040
405.262.4058 fax
joe@basslaw.netmailto:agbass@basslaw.net

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P.O. Box 157
El Reno, OK 73036

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We represent a Title 60 Public Trust (County is beneficiary). Trust desires to contract for the purchase and installation of a complete audio/video system for a County facility. The contractor will be required to provide all relevant audio, video and automation hardware and software for the design. A question has arisen whether Trust must go out to bid for the equipment and installation (services) for the audio/video system pursuant to the Public Competitive Act (Title 61 O.S. sections 101 et seq. or whether the Trust can request proposals for the design and installation of the hardware and software for the system. My initial thought is that because the design and installation of the audio/video system will require professional judgment and/or specialized knowledge not subject to uniform specifications, the Trust is not required to go out to bid for the system but can rather request proposals. Any insight you can provide will be appreciated. Thanks, Joe Weaver -------------------------------- Joe Weaver Attorney At Law 405.262.4040 405.262.4058 fax joe@basslaw.net<mailto:agbass@basslaw.net> [cid:image001.png@01D64EC9.C2A7ACD0] www.basslaw.net 104 N. Rock Island Ave. P.O. Box 157 El Reno, OK 73036 NOTICE: The information contained in this transmission is or may be protected by the attorney-client and/or the attorney work product privilege and is confidential. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity identified above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination or distribution of the accompanying communication is prohibited. No applicable privilege is waived by the party sending this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply and delete the original message from your system. Circular 230 Disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein.
JM
Jon Miller
Tue, Jun 30, 2020 4:26 PM

I would think the design of the system would require professional knowledge and skill, and would therefore be a professional contract.  (While the trust statute does not provide for a "professional services" exception, I believe that the professional services exception exists as a matter of common law.)

I am less sure of the hardware purchases.  If the design calls for video cameras, computers and other hardware that can be provided by any number of providers who have the technical specifications, I don't see how that portion of the project can be considered "professional" in nature.  The same may be true for that portion of the project that requires running the wires to hook everything up.  I would the actual hooking up of the system and making certain everything operates as intended to be a professional service.

A question would be whether, as a practical matter, the project could be reasonably segregated between the professional services and the hardware purchases.  I would rely on the technical experts to make that judgment call.

Jonathan E. Miller
City Attorney
City of Mustang
1885 Piedmont Rd. N., Suite B
P.O. Box 546
Piedmont, Oklahoma  73078
Telephone: (405) 883-6266
Facsimile: (405) 883-6155


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To: oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Request for bid - Request for Proposal

We represent a Title 60 Public Trust (County is beneficiary).  Trust desires to contract for the purchase and installation of a complete audio/video system for a County facility.  The contractor will be required to provide all relevant audio, video and automation hardware and software for the design.  A question has arisen whether Trust must go out to bid for the equipment and installation (services) for the audio/video system pursuant to the Public Competitive Act (Title 61 O.S. sections 101 et seq. or whether the Trust can request proposals for the design and installation of the hardware and software for the system.

My initial thought is that because the design and installation of the audio/video system will require professional judgment and/or specialized knowledge not subject to uniform specifications, the Trust is not required to go out to bid for the system but can rather request proposals.

Any insight you can provide will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Joe Weaver


Joe Weaver
Attorney At Law
405.262.4040
405.262.4058 fax
joe@basslaw.netmailto:agbass@basslaw.net

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www.basslaw.net
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P.O. Box 157
El Reno, OK 73036

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I would think the design of the system would require professional knowledge and skill, and would therefore be a professional contract. (While the trust statute does not provide for a "professional services" exception, I believe that the professional services exception exists as a matter of common law.) I am less sure of the hardware purchases. If the design calls for video cameras, computers and other hardware that can be provided by any number of providers who have the technical specifications, I don't see how that portion of the project can be considered "professional" in nature. The same may be true for that portion of the project that requires running the wires to hook everything up. I would the actual hooking up of the system and making certain everything operates as intended to be a professional service. A question would be whether, as a practical matter, the project could be reasonably segregated between the professional services and the hardware purchases. I would rely on the technical experts to make that judgment call. Jonathan E. Miller City Attorney City of Mustang 1885 Piedmont Rd. N., Suite B P.O. Box 546 Piedmont, Oklahoma 73078 Telephone: (405) 883-6266 Facsimile: (405) 883-6155 ********************************************************************************************* This message is sent by a lawyer and may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message and any attachments. This e-mail is intended for the addressee(s) only, and may not be distributed to any other person without written consent of the sender. From: Oama <oama-bounces@lists.imla.org> On Behalf Of Joe Weaver Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:10 AM To: oama@lists.imla.org Subject: [Oama] Request for bid - Request for Proposal We represent a Title 60 Public Trust (County is beneficiary). Trust desires to contract for the purchase and installation of a complete audio/video system for a County facility. The contractor will be required to provide all relevant audio, video and automation hardware and software for the design. A question has arisen whether Trust must go out to bid for the equipment and installation (services) for the audio/video system pursuant to the Public Competitive Act (Title 61 O.S. sections 101 et seq. or whether the Trust can request proposals for the design and installation of the hardware and software for the system. My initial thought is that because the design and installation of the audio/video system will require professional judgment and/or specialized knowledge not subject to uniform specifications, the Trust is not required to go out to bid for the system but can rather request proposals. Any insight you can provide will be appreciated. Thanks, Joe Weaver -------------------------------- Joe Weaver Attorney At Law 405.262.4040 405.262.4058 fax joe@basslaw.net<mailto:agbass@basslaw.net> [cid:image001.png@01D64ED1.4D3022E0] www.basslaw.net 104 N. Rock Island Ave. P.O. Box 157 El Reno, OK 73036 NOTICE: The information contained in this transmission is or may be protected by the attorney-client and/or the attorney work product privilege and is confidential. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity identified above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination or distribution of the accompanying communication is prohibited. No applicable privilege is waived by the party sending this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply and delete the original message from your system. Circular 230 Disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein.
DD
david davis
Tue, Jun 30, 2020 4:40 PM

The lease of the equipment may be an option also Construction Management agreemnt.  see below

Oklahoma Statutes Citationized
[https://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDFolderOpen.gif] https://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/index.asp?level=1&ftdb=STOKST62 Title 62. Public Finance
[https://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDFolderOpen.gif] https://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/index.asp?level=1&ftdb=STOKST62#Chapter2-ProvisionsApplicabletoSubdivisionsoftheState Chapter 2 - Provisions Applicable to Subdivisions of the State
[https://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDFolderOpen.gif] https://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/index.asp?level=1&ftdb=STOKST62#RentalofRealorPersonalProperty Rental of Real or Personal Property
[https://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDDocument.gif] Section 430.1 - Counties, Cities, Towns, and School Districts Authorized to Rent Equipment
Cite as: O.S. §, __ __


A. The governing board of any county, city or town, or school district is authorized to rent on a monthly basis real or personal property as authorized by the governing board and to pay the rental charges thereon for usage during any fiscal period, or portion thereof, out of appropriations made and approved for such purposes for, or during, such fiscal year. Any such rental contract extending beyond June 30 of the fiscal year shall contain provisions for mutual ratification of renewal under the conditions provided in this section.

B. As used in this section, the term "personal property" shall include, but not be limited to:

  1. Portable, or otherwise moveable, buildings and structures;

  2. Prefabricated metal buildings and structures, along with necessary utility services for such buildings or structures;

  3. Roofs placed over existing roof structures; provided, lease-purchase of retrofit metal roofs shall be awarded by competitive bids and the governing board of any county, city or town, or school district shall comply with the Public Competitive Bidding Act of 1974 where total payments of principle and interest provided by the lease-purchase contract are anticipated to exceed Twenty-five Thousand Dollars ($25,000.00); and

  4. Other structures or property that can be disassembled after installation and removed without permanent physical damage to existing property.

Notwithstanding the provisions of Section 7 of Title 60 of the Oklahoma Statutes, such personal property shall retain its status as personal property and shall not be deemed to become attached to the real estate for the duration of the lease-purchase agreement.

C. It is the purpose of this section to authorize such governing boards to enter into lease and lease-purchase contracts but not to incur any obligation upon the part of their respective municipal or governmental subdivisions in excess of the income and revenue thereof provided for such purposes for the fiscal year in which the lease contract is effectively operative.

D. Any agreement to lease and purchase real or personal property, where title is to be acquired by the municipal or governmental subdivision, shall state the purchase price of the real or personal property so leased and in no event shall the lease be extended so as to cause payment of more than the stated purchase price of the real or personal property plus interest not to exceed ten percent (10%) simple interest on the unpaid balance due as of each payment date. When the purchase price plus interest has been paid, the property shall belong to the lessee and the lessor shall deliver a bill of sale to the property to the lessee. Any lease-purchase agreement may include an option to purchase, transfer and acquire title during the term of the lease upon payment of the balance of the agreed purchase price, and each agreement shall include a provision to transfer title to the lessee at the end of the completed lease term for nominal or no additional consideration.

E. The payment for the lease or rental of real or personal property shall be made only from annual and supplemental appropriations specifically designated for such purpose, and no appropriation for the purpose of paying rentals on real or personal property shall be transferred or diverted to any other purpose, except as may be authorized by the terms of the agreement or by law.

F. When any real or personal property has been leased or rented during any fiscal year under any contract which permits continuance of such rental for the remainder of the fiscal year, the renting or leasing thereof shall be continued for the remainder of the fiscal year unless the governing body renting or leasing the same, by proper resolution entered in the minutes of the governing body, shall certify that the continuance of such rental is unnecessary and contrary to the public interest. However, to affect a contract termination of lease or lease-purchase equipment, written notice shall be sent by certified mail to the vendor thirty (30) days prior to the termination of the contract. Such notice shall be accompanied by payment of all sums then owed up to the date of the termination of the contract and shall certify that the canceled equipment is not being replaced by equipment performing similar functions. All equipment covered by such contract termination shall be returned to the vendor at the expense of the governmental agency terminating such contract. Such equipment shall be returned in good condition to a location designated by the vendor and the equipment, when returned, shall be free of all liens and encumbrances. Satisfaction of all of the requirements of this section shall release the governmental agency terminating such contract from any further obligation to make any further payments to the vendor.

also:  the following may work:

  1. Public Buildings and Public Works
    [https://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDFolderOpen.gif] https://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/index.asp?level=1&ftdb=STOKST61#PublicConstructionManagementActforPoliticalSubdivisions Public Construction Management Act for Political Subdivisions
    [https://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDDocument.gif] Section 216 - Application - Definitions
    Cite as: 61 O.S. § 216 (OSCN 2020), Public Construction Management Act for Political Subdivisions

A. The Public Construction Management Act for Political Subdivisions shall apply to political subdivisions of this state.

B. As used in the Public Construction Management Act for Political Subdivisions:

  1. "Agency construction management" means the construction entity provides services to the owner without taking on financial risks for the execution of the actual construction and/or time of performance, and the owner contracts directly with those awarded trade contracts for the work;

  2. "At-risk construction management" means the construction entity, after providing agency services during the preconstruction period:

a. takes on the financial obligation to timely carry out construction under a specified cost agreement, and

b. enters into written subcontracts for the work in accordance with the Construction Management Procedures for Political Subdivisions;

  1. "Construction management" means a public construction project delivery method based on an agreement whereby the owner acquires from a construction entity a series of services that include, but are not necessarily limited to, design review, scheduling, cost control, value engineering, constructability evaluation, preparation and coordination of bid packages and construction administration. Construction management includes:

a. agency construction management, and

b. at-risk construction management; and

  1. "Political subdivision" or "subdivision" means any local governmental body formed pursuant to the laws of this state, including, but not limited to, school districts, vocational education districts, cities, counties, public trusts, public authorities, commissions or other local governmental bodies exercising their authority to contract for public construction delivery services. The term also applies to quasi-governmental and nongovernmental organizations delivering construction services using public funds or on behalf of a political subdivision

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s/ David A. Davis
LAW OFFICE OF DAVID A. DAVIS
4312 N. Classen Blvd.
OKLAHOMA CITY, OK 73118
405 840-6353
405 557-0777 (FAX)
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From: Oama oama-bounces@lists.imla.org on behalf of Joe Weaver jweaver@basslaw.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:10 AM
To: oama@lists.imla.org oama@lists.imla.org
Subject: [Oama] Request for bid - Request for Proposal

We represent a Title 60 Public Trust (County is beneficiary).  Trust desires to contract for the purchase and installation of a complete audio/video system for a County facility.  The contractor will be required to provide all relevant audio, video and automation hardware and software for the design.  A question has arisen whether Trust must go out to bid for the equipment and installation (services) for the audio/video system pursuant to the Public Competitive Act (Title 61 O.S. sections 101 et seq. or whether the Trust can request proposals for the design and installation of the hardware and software for the system.

My initial thought is that because the design and installation of the audio/video system will require professional judgment and/or specialized knowledge not subject to uniform specifications, the Trust is not required to go out to bid for the system but can rather request proposals.

Any insight you can provide will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Joe Weaver


Joe Weaver

Attorney At Law

405.262.4040

405.262.4058 fax

joe@basslaw.netmailto:agbass@basslaw.net

[cid:image001.png@01D64EC9.C2A7ACD0]

www.basslaw.net

104 N. Rock Island Ave.

P.O. Box 157

El Reno, OK 73036

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The lease of the equipment may be an option also Construction Management agreemnt. see below Oklahoma Statutes Citationized [https://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDFolderOpen.gif] <https://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/index.asp?level=1&ftdb=STOKST62> Title 62. Public Finance [https://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDFolderOpen.gif] <https://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/index.asp?level=1&ftdb=STOKST62#Chapter2-ProvisionsApplicabletoSubdivisionsoftheState> Chapter 2 - Provisions Applicable to Subdivisions of the State [https://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDFolderOpen.gif] <https://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/index.asp?level=1&ftdb=STOKST62#RentalofRealorPersonalProperty> Rental of Real or Personal Property [https://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDDocument.gif] Section 430.1 - Counties, Cities, Towns, and School Districts Authorized to Rent Equipment Cite as: O.S. §, __ __ ________________________________ A. The governing board of any county, city or town, or school district is authorized to rent on a monthly basis real or personal property as authorized by the governing board and to pay the rental charges thereon for usage during any fiscal period, or portion thereof, out of appropriations made and approved for such purposes for, or during, such fiscal year. Any such rental contract extending beyond June 30 of the fiscal year shall contain provisions for mutual ratification of renewal under the conditions provided in this section. B. As used in this section, the term "personal property" shall include, but not be limited to: 1. Portable, or otherwise moveable, buildings and structures; 2. Prefabricated metal buildings and structures, along with necessary utility services for such buildings or structures; 3. Roofs placed over existing roof structures; provided, lease-purchase of retrofit metal roofs shall be awarded by competitive bids and the governing board of any county, city or town, or school district shall comply with the Public Competitive Bidding Act of 1974 where total payments of principle and interest provided by the lease-purchase contract are anticipated to exceed Twenty-five Thousand Dollars ($25,000.00); and 4. Other structures or property that can be disassembled after installation and removed without permanent physical damage to existing property. Notwithstanding the provisions of Section 7 of Title 60 of the Oklahoma Statutes, such personal property shall retain its status as personal property and shall not be deemed to become attached to the real estate for the duration of the lease-purchase agreement. C. It is the purpose of this section to authorize such governing boards to enter into lease and lease-purchase contracts but not to incur any obligation upon the part of their respective municipal or governmental subdivisions in excess of the income and revenue thereof provided for such purposes for the fiscal year in which the lease contract is effectively operative. D. Any agreement to lease and purchase real or personal property, where title is to be acquired by the municipal or governmental subdivision, shall state the purchase price of the real or personal property so leased and in no event shall the lease be extended so as to cause payment of more than the stated purchase price of the real or personal property plus interest not to exceed ten percent (10%) simple interest on the unpaid balance due as of each payment date. When the purchase price plus interest has been paid, the property shall belong to the lessee and the lessor shall deliver a bill of sale to the property to the lessee. Any lease-purchase agreement may include an option to purchase, transfer and acquire title during the term of the lease upon payment of the balance of the agreed purchase price, and each agreement shall include a provision to transfer title to the lessee at the end of the completed lease term for nominal or no additional consideration. E. The payment for the lease or rental of real or personal property shall be made only from annual and supplemental appropriations specifically designated for such purpose, and no appropriation for the purpose of paying rentals on real or personal property shall be transferred or diverted to any other purpose, except as may be authorized by the terms of the agreement or by law. F. When any real or personal property has been leased or rented during any fiscal year under any contract which permits continuance of such rental for the remainder of the fiscal year, the renting or leasing thereof shall be continued for the remainder of the fiscal year unless the governing body renting or leasing the same, by proper resolution entered in the minutes of the governing body, shall certify that the continuance of such rental is unnecessary and contrary to the public interest. However, to affect a contract termination of lease or lease-purchase equipment, written notice shall be sent by certified mail to the vendor thirty (30) days prior to the termination of the contract. Such notice shall be accompanied by payment of all sums then owed up to the date of the termination of the contract and shall certify that the canceled equipment is not being replaced by equipment performing similar functions. All equipment covered by such contract termination shall be returned to the vendor at the expense of the governmental agency terminating such contract. Such equipment shall be returned in good condition to a location designated by the vendor and the equipment, when returned, shall be free of all liens and encumbrances. Satisfaction of all of the requirements of this section shall release the governmental agency terminating such contract from any further obligation to make any further payments to the vendor. also: the following may work: 61. Public Buildings and Public Works [https://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDFolderOpen.gif] <https://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/index.asp?level=1&ftdb=STOKST61#PublicConstructionManagementActforPoliticalSubdivisions> Public Construction Management Act for Political Subdivisions [https://www.oscn.net/Images/Applications/search/WDDocument.gif] Section 216 - Application - Definitions Cite as: 61 O.S. § 216 (OSCN 2020), Public Construction Management Act for Political Subdivisions ________________________________ A. The Public Construction Management Act for Political Subdivisions shall apply to political subdivisions of this state. B. As used in the Public Construction Management Act for Political Subdivisions: 1. "Agency construction management" means the construction entity provides services to the owner without taking on financial risks for the execution of the actual construction and/or time of performance, and the owner contracts directly with those awarded trade contracts for the work; 2. "At-risk construction management" means the construction entity, after providing agency services during the preconstruction period: a. takes on the financial obligation to timely carry out construction under a specified cost agreement, and b. enters into written subcontracts for the work in accordance with the Construction Management Procedures for Political Subdivisions; 3. "Construction management" means a public construction project delivery method based on an agreement whereby the owner acquires from a construction entity a series of services that include, but are not necessarily limited to, design review, scheduling, cost control, value engineering, constructability evaluation, preparation and coordination of bid packages and construction administration. Construction management includes: a. agency construction management, and b. at-risk construction management; and 4. "Political subdivision" or "subdivision" means any local governmental body formed pursuant to the laws of this state, including, but not limited to, school districts, vocational education districts, cities, counties, public trusts, public authorities, commissions or other local governmental bodies exercising their authority to contract for public construction delivery services. The term also applies to quasi-governmental and nongovernmental organizations delivering construction services using public funds or on behalf of a political subdivision CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This transmission is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. Sections 2510-2521 and intended to be delivered only to the named addressee(s) This e-mail message is intended only for the personal use of the recipient(s) named above. This message is or may be an attorney-client communication and as such privileged and confidential. If you are not an intended recipient, you may not review, copy or distribute this message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. s/ David A. Davis LAW OFFICE OF DAVID A. DAVIS 4312 N. Classen Blvd. OKLAHOMA CITY, OK 73118 405 840-6353 405 557-0777 (FAX) ddavislaw@live.com<mailto:ddavislaw@live.com> ________________________________ From: Oama <oama-bounces@lists.imla.org> on behalf of Joe Weaver <jweaver@basslaw.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:10 AM To: oama@lists.imla.org <oama@lists.imla.org> Subject: [Oama] Request for bid - Request for Proposal We represent a Title 60 Public Trust (County is beneficiary). Trust desires to contract for the purchase and installation of a complete audio/video system for a County facility. The contractor will be required to provide all relevant audio, video and automation hardware and software for the design. A question has arisen whether Trust must go out to bid for the equipment and installation (services) for the audio/video system pursuant to the Public Competitive Act (Title 61 O.S. sections 101 et seq. or whether the Trust can request proposals for the design and installation of the hardware and software for the system. My initial thought is that because the design and installation of the audio/video system will require professional judgment and/or specialized knowledge not subject to uniform specifications, the Trust is not required to go out to bid for the system but can rather request proposals. Any insight you can provide will be appreciated. Thanks, Joe Weaver -------------------------------- Joe Weaver Attorney At Law 405.262.4040 405.262.4058 fax joe@basslaw.net<mailto:agbass@basslaw.net> [cid:image001.png@01D64EC9.C2A7ACD0] www.basslaw.net 104 N. Rock Island Ave. P.O. Box 157 El Reno, OK 73036 NOTICE: The information contained in this transmission is or may be protected by the attorney-client and/or the attorney work product privilege and is confidential. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity identified above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination or distribution of the accompanying communication is prohibited. No applicable privilege is waived by the party sending this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply and delete the original message from your system. Circular 230 Disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein.
JB
Jeff Bryant
Tue, Jun 30, 2020 5:38 PM

I think an argument can be made that such a project is not subject to the Okla. Competitive Bidding Act.  .  The key definitions are in 61 O.S.  §102 (6) & (7)

  1. "Public construction contract" or "contract" means any contract, exceeding Fifty Thousand Dollars ($50,000.00) in amount, awarded by any public agency for the purpose of making any public improvements or constructing any public building or making repairs to or performing maintenance on the same except where the improvements, construction of any building or repairs to the same are improvements or buildings leased to a person or other legal entity exclusively for private and not for public use and no public tax revenues shall be expended on or for the contract unless the public tax revenues used for the project are authorized by a majority of the voters of the applicable public agency voting at an election held for that purpose and the public tax revenues do not exceed twenty-five percent (25%) of the total project cost. The amount of public tax dollars committed to the project will not exceed a fixed amount established by resolution of the governing body prior to or concurrent with approval of the project;

  2. "Public improvement" means any beneficial or valuable change or addition, betterment, enhancement or amelioration of or upon any real property, or interest therein, belonging to a public agency, intended to enhance its value, beauty or utility or to adapt it to new or further purposes. The term does not include the direct purchase of materials, equipment or supplies by a public agency, or any personal property, including property as defined in paragraphs 1 and 4 of subsection B of Section 430.1 of Title 62 of the Oklahoma Statutes;
    62 O.S. §430.1 B states (in pertinent part):

"B. As used in this section, the term "personal property" shall include, but not be limited to:

. . . .

  1. Other structures or property that can be disassembled after installation and removed without permanent physical damage to existing property. . . ."

This language suggests a plausible argument that audio/visual systems, if they can be disassembled and removed without permanent physical damage to existing property are not "public improvements" to a public building and thus not subject to purchase through the Competitive Bidding Act.

I hope this is helpful.

Jeff Bryant
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From: Oama oama-bounces@lists.imla.org on behalf of Joe Weaver jweaver@basslaw.net
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Subject: [Oama] Request for bid - Request for Proposal

We represent a Title 60 Public Trust (County is beneficiary).  Trust desires to contract for the purchase and installation of a complete audio/video system for a County facility.  The contractor will be required to provide all relevant audio, video and automation hardware and software for the design.  A question has arisen whether Trust must go out to bid for the equipment and installation (services) for the audio/video system pursuant to the Public Competitive Act (Title 61 O.S. sections 101 et seq. or whether the Trust can request proposals for the design and installation of the hardware and software for the system.

My initial thought is that because the design and installation of the audio/video system will require professional judgment and/or specialized knowledge not subject to uniform specifications, the Trust is not required to go out to bid for the system but can rather request proposals.

Any insight you can provide will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Joe Weaver


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I think an argument can be made that such a project is not subject to the Okla. Competitive Bidding Act. . The key definitions are in 61 O.S. §102 (6) & (7) 6. "Public construction contract" or "contract" means any contract, exceeding Fifty Thousand Dollars ($50,000.00) in amount, awarded by any public agency for the purpose of making any public improvements or constructing any public building or making repairs to or performing maintenance on the same except where the improvements, construction of any building or repairs to the same are improvements or buildings leased to a person or other legal entity exclusively for private and not for public use and no public tax revenues shall be expended on or for the contract unless the public tax revenues used for the project are authorized by a majority of the voters of the applicable public agency voting at an election held for that purpose and the public tax revenues do not exceed twenty-five percent (25%) of the total project cost. The amount of public tax dollars committed to the project will not exceed a fixed amount established by resolution of the governing body prior to or concurrent with approval of the project; 7. "Public improvement" means any beneficial or valuable change or addition, betterment, enhancement or amelioration of or upon any real property, or interest therein, belonging to a public agency, intended to enhance its value, beauty or utility or to adapt it to new or further purposes. The term does not include the direct purchase of materials, equipment or supplies by a public agency, or any personal property, including property as defined in paragraphs 1 and 4 of subsection B of Section 430.1 of Title 62 of the Oklahoma Statutes; 62 O.S. §430.1 B states (in pertinent part): "B. As used in this section, the term "personal property" shall include, but not be limited to: . . . . 4. Other structures or property that can be disassembled after installation and removed without permanent physical damage to existing property. . . ." This language suggests a plausible argument that audio/visual systems, if they can be disassembled and removed without permanent physical damage to existing property are not "public improvements" to a public building and thus not subject to purchase through the Competitive Bidding Act. I hope this is helpful. Jeff Bryant Jeff H Bryant Director of Legal Services Associate General Counsel jbryant@omag.org<mailto:jbryant@omag.org> [OMAG Small Logo Smooth] 3650 S. Boulevard Edmond, Oklahoma 73013 Phone: 405-657-1419 Fax: 405-657-1401 www.omag.org<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omag.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cksesock%40omag.org%7C7b0af7708d2145459d0008d5d005912d%7Cb13aadd514d84b918cf485be9d556ad7%7C1%7C0%7C636643644718063768&sdata=O5U4CEM0kJLxSbEQIcdB%2BtRnRqcj9gWhJquY26D8F1o%3D&reserved=0> ________________________________ From: Oama <oama-bounces@lists.imla.org> on behalf of Joe Weaver <jweaver@basslaw.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:10 AM To: oama@lists.imla.org <oama@lists.imla.org> Subject: [Oama] Request for bid - Request for Proposal We represent a Title 60 Public Trust (County is beneficiary). Trust desires to contract for the purchase and installation of a complete audio/video system for a County facility. The contractor will be required to provide all relevant audio, video and automation hardware and software for the design. A question has arisen whether Trust must go out to bid for the equipment and installation (services) for the audio/video system pursuant to the Public Competitive Act (Title 61 O.S. sections 101 et seq. or whether the Trust can request proposals for the design and installation of the hardware and software for the system. My initial thought is that because the design and installation of the audio/video system will require professional judgment and/or specialized knowledge not subject to uniform specifications, the Trust is not required to go out to bid for the system but can rather request proposals. Any insight you can provide will be appreciated. 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Matt Love
Tue, Jun 30, 2020 6:15 PM

Another statute to be mindful of is 60 O.S. 176(I):

I. Contracts for construction, labor, equipment, material or repairs in
excess of Fifty Thousand Dollars ($50,000.00) shall be awarded by public
trusts to the lowest and best competitive bidder, pursuant to public
invitation to bid, which shall be published in the manner provided in
subsection G of this section; the advertisements shall appear in the county
where the work, or the major part of it, is to be done, or the equipment or
materials are to be delivered, or the services are to be rendered;
provided, however, should the trustee or the trustees find that an
immediate emergency exists, which findings shall be entered in the journal
of the trust proceedings, by reason of which an immediate outlay of trust
funds in an amount exceeding Seventy-five Thousand Dollars ($75,000.00) is
necessary in order to avoid loss of life, substantial damage to property,
or damage to the public peace or safety, then the contracts may be made and
entered into without public notice or competitive bids; provided that the
provisions of this subsection shall not apply to contracts of industrial
and cultural trusts. Notwithstanding the provisions of this subsection,
equipment or materials may be purchased by a public trust directly from any
contract duly awarded by this state or any state agency under The Oklahoma
Central Purchasing Act, or from any contract duly awarded by a governmental
entity which is the beneficiary of the public trust. Furthermore, any
construction contract issued under this section may provide for a local bid
preference of not more than five percent (5%) of the bid price if the
public trust governing body determines that there is an economic benefit to
the local area or economy. Provided, however, the local bidder or
contractor must agree to perform the contract for the same price and terms
as the bid proposed by the nonlocal bidder or contractor. Any bid
preference granted hereunder must be in accordance with an established
policy adopted by the governing body of the trust to clearly demonstrate
the economic benefit to the local area or economy. Provided, further, no
local bid preference shall be granted unless the local bidding entity is
the second lowest qualified bid on the contract. The bid specifications
shall clearly state that the bid is subject to a local bidder preference
law. For purposes of this section, "local bid" means the bidding person is
authorized to transact business in this state and maintains a bona fide
establishment for transacting such business within this state. This
provision does not apply to any construction contract for which federal
funds are available for expenditure when its provisions may be in conflict
with federal law or regulation.

I cannot recall if some of the new options that are exceptions to the
Competitive Bidding Act would apply as exceptions to this requirement that
is specific to Title 60 trusts.

Matt

Another statute to be mindful of is 60 O.S. 176(I): I. Contracts for construction, labor, equipment, material or repairs in excess of Fifty Thousand Dollars ($50,000.00) shall be awarded by public trusts to the lowest and best competitive bidder, pursuant to public invitation to bid, which shall be published in the manner provided in subsection G of this section; the advertisements shall appear in the county where the work, or the major part of it, is to be done, or the equipment or materials are to be delivered, or the services are to be rendered; provided, however, should the trustee or the trustees find that an immediate emergency exists, which findings shall be entered in the journal of the trust proceedings, by reason of which an immediate outlay of trust funds in an amount exceeding Seventy-five Thousand Dollars ($75,000.00) is necessary in order to avoid loss of life, substantial damage to property, or damage to the public peace or safety, then the contracts may be made and entered into without public notice or competitive bids; provided that the provisions of this subsection shall not apply to contracts of industrial and cultural trusts. Notwithstanding the provisions of this subsection, equipment or materials may be purchased by a public trust directly from any contract duly awarded by this state or any state agency under The Oklahoma Central Purchasing Act, or from any contract duly awarded by a governmental entity which is the beneficiary of the public trust. Furthermore, any construction contract issued under this section may provide for a local bid preference of not more than five percent (5%) of the bid price if the public trust governing body determines that there is an economic benefit to the local area or economy. Provided, however, the local bidder or contractor must agree to perform the contract for the same price and terms as the bid proposed by the nonlocal bidder or contractor. Any bid preference granted hereunder must be in accordance with an established policy adopted by the governing body of the trust to clearly demonstrate the economic benefit to the local area or economy. Provided, further, no local bid preference shall be granted unless the local bidding entity is the second lowest qualified bid on the contract. The bid specifications shall clearly state that the bid is subject to a local bidder preference law. For purposes of this section, "local bid" means the bidding person is authorized to transact business in this state and maintains a bona fide establishment for transacting such business within this state. This provision does not apply to any construction contract for which federal funds are available for expenditure when its provisions may be in conflict with federal law or regulation. I cannot recall if some of the new options that are exceptions to the Competitive Bidding Act would apply as exceptions to this requirement that is specific to Title 60 trusts. Matt > >