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Phillip Morton
Tue, Jul 18, 2023 7:56 PM

Does anyone know of any reason why a tribe could not cross-commission CLEET
certified reserve officers? Any authority one way or the other would be
appreciated. Thanks!

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P.O. Box 1886
Ada, OK 74820
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Does anyone know of any reason why a tribe could not cross-commission CLEET certified reserve officers? Any authority one way or the other would be appreciated. Thanks! Phillip N. Morton, J.D. P.O. Box 1886 Ada, OK 74820 Phone: 580-759-0049 Fax: 580-759-2177 Email: MortonLawOffice@gmail.com CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION: This electronic mail transmission, as well as any attachments, may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED by law. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify us by replying to this email or by calling *580-759-0049*.
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Matt Love
Tue, Jul 18, 2023 8:01 PM

There's no reason they couldn't do so. The fact that they are reserves
wouldn't matter for any reason I can think of. There was initially some
confusion in an early AG's opinion about whether cross commissioning was
lawful, but the AG cleared that up years ago. So if a full Peace Officer
can be cross commissioned, I can't think of a reason why a Reserve Peace
Officer couldn't also be cross commissioned.

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 2:57 PM Phillip Morton via Oama oama@lists.imla.org
wrote:

Does anyone know of any reason why a tribe could not cross-commission
CLEET certified reserve officers? Any authority one way or the other would
be appreciated. Thanks!

Phillip N. Morton, J.D.
P.O. Box 1886
Ada, OK 74820
Phone: 580-759-0049
Fax: 580-759-2177
Email: MortonLawOffice@gmail.com

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There's no reason they couldn't do so. The fact that they are reserves wouldn't matter for any reason I can think of. There was initially some confusion in an early AG's opinion about whether cross commissioning was lawful, but the AG cleared that up years ago. So if a full Peace Officer can be cross commissioned, I can't think of a reason why a Reserve Peace Officer couldn't also be cross commissioned. On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 2:57 PM Phillip Morton via Oama <oama@lists.imla.org> wrote: > Does anyone know of any reason why a tribe could not cross-commission > CLEET certified reserve officers? Any authority one way or the other would > be appreciated. Thanks! > > Phillip N. Morton, J.D. > P.O. Box 1886 > Ada, OK 74820 > Phone: 580-759-0049 > Fax: 580-759-2177 > Email: MortonLawOffice@gmail.com > > CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION: This electronic mail > transmission, as well as any attachments, may contain confidential > information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of any of the > information contained in or attached to this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED > by law. If you have received this message in error, please immediately > notify us by replying to this email or by calling *580-759-0049*. > -- > Oama mailing list -- oama@lists.imla.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oama-leave@lists.imla.org >
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Wil Crawford
Tue, Jul 18, 2023 8:04 PM

It’s my understanding that some tribes (Chickasaw Nation for one) require SLEC training through the BIA in order to be cross-commissioned.  But BIA doesn’t offer that training for reserve officers—you have to have a full commission.

Wil M. Crawford
Indian & Environmental Law Group, PLLC
117 S. Ash Street
Ada, OK 74820
Wil@iaelaw.commailto:Wil@iaelaw.com
(580) 453-7051
(918) 948-6190 (fax)
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There's no reason they couldn't do so. The fact that they are reserves wouldn't matter for any reason I can think of. There was initially some confusion in an early AG's opinion about whether cross commissioning was lawful, but the AG cleared that up years ago. So if a full Peace Officer can be cross commissioned, I can't think of a reason why a Reserve Peace Officer couldn't also be cross commissioned.

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 2:57 PM Phillip Morton via Oama <oama@lists.imla.orgmailto:oama@lists.imla.org> wrote:
Does anyone know of any reason why a tribe could not cross-commission CLEET certified reserve officers? Any authority one way or the other would be appreciated. Thanks!

Phillip N. Morton, J.D.
P.O. Box 1886
Ada, OK 74820
Phone: 580-759-0049
Fax: 580-759-2177
Email: MortonLawOffice@gmail.commailto:MortonLawOffice@gmail.com

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It’s my understanding that some tribes (Chickasaw Nation for one) require SLEC training through the BIA in order to be cross-commissioned. But BIA doesn’t offer that training for reserve officers—you have to have a full commission. Wil M. Crawford Indian & Environmental Law Group, PLLC 117 S. Ash Street Ada, OK 74820 Wil@iaelaw.com<mailto:Wil@iaelaw.com> (580) 453-7051 (918) 948-6190 (fax) [cid:image001.png@01D9B989.29B44B40] NOTICE: This E-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. Sections 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. From: Matt Love via Oama <oama@lists.imla.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 3:01 PM To: Phillip Morton <mortonlawoffice@gmail.com> Cc: OAMA luistserv <oama@lists.imla.org> Subject: [Oama] Re: Cross-deputation reserve officers [EXTERNAL EMAIL] There's no reason they couldn't do so. The fact that they are reserves wouldn't matter for any reason I can think of. There was initially some confusion in an early AG's opinion about whether cross commissioning was lawful, but the AG cleared that up years ago. So if a full Peace Officer can be cross commissioned, I can't think of a reason why a Reserve Peace Officer couldn't also be cross commissioned. On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 2:57 PM Phillip Morton via Oama <oama@lists.imla.org<mailto:oama@lists.imla.org>> wrote: Does anyone know of any reason why a tribe could not cross-commission CLEET certified reserve officers? Any authority one way or the other would be appreciated. Thanks! Phillip N. Morton, J.D. P.O. Box 1886 Ada, OK 74820 Phone: 580-759-0049 Fax: 580-759-2177 Email: MortonLawOffice@gmail.com<mailto:MortonLawOffice@gmail.com> CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION: This electronic mail transmission, as well as any attachments, may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED by law. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify us by replying to this email or by calling 580-759-0049. -- Oama mailing list -- oama@lists.imla.org<mailto:oama@lists.imla.org> To unsubscribe send an email to oama-leave@lists.imla.org<mailto:oama-leave@lists.imla.org>
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Matt Love
Tue, Jul 18, 2023 8:07 PM

That very well could be the case. For those not familiar with the SLEC,
it's a Federal Commission (Special Law Enforcement Commission) that the BIA
can issue to State, local and Tribal Officers that essentially give the
Officers jurisdiction to investigate Federal crimes. So while an SLEC would
not be needed to get a Tribal commission (since each Tribe can
establish their own requirements), I could see that some of the Tribes
might want to ensure that they only issue a Tribal commission to someone
who has gone through the training and been given a Federal commission.

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:04 PM Wil Crawford wil@iaelaw.com wrote:

It’s my understanding that some tribes (Chickasaw Nation for one) require
SLEC training through the BIA in order to be cross-commissioned.  But BIA
doesn’t offer that training for reserve officers—you have to have a full
commission.

Wil M. Crawford

Indian & Environmental Law Group, PLLC

117 S. Ash Street

Ada, OK 74820

Wil@iaelaw.com

(580) 453-7051

(918) 948-6190 (fax)

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There's no reason they couldn't do so. The fact that they are reserves
wouldn't matter for any reason I can think of. There was initially some
confusion in an early AG's opinion about whether cross commissioning was
lawful, but the AG cleared that up years ago. So if a full Peace Officer
can be cross commissioned, I can't think of a reason why a Reserve Peace
Officer couldn't also be cross commissioned.

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 2:57 PM Phillip Morton via Oama <
oama@lists.imla.org> wrote:

Does anyone know of any reason why a tribe could not cross-commission
CLEET certified reserve officers? Any authority one way or the other would
be appreciated. Thanks!

Phillip N. Morton, J.D.

P.O. Box 1886

Ada, OK 74820

Phone: 580-759-0049

Fax: 580-759-2177

Email: MortonLawOffice@gmail.com

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That very well could be the case. For those not familiar with the SLEC, it's a Federal Commission (Special Law Enforcement Commission) that the BIA can issue to State, local and Tribal Officers that essentially give the Officers jurisdiction to investigate Federal crimes. So while an SLEC would not be needed to get a Tribal commission (since each Tribe can establish their own requirements), I could see that some of the Tribes might want to ensure that they only issue a Tribal commission to someone who has gone through the training and been given a Federal commission. On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:04 PM Wil Crawford <wil@iaelaw.com> wrote: > It’s my understanding that some tribes (Chickasaw Nation for one) require > SLEC training through the BIA in order to be cross-commissioned. But BIA > doesn’t offer that training for reserve officers—you have to have a full > commission. > > > > *Wil M. Crawford* > > Indian & Environmental Law Group, PLLC > > 117 S. Ash Street > > Ada, OK 74820 > > Wil@iaelaw.com > > (580) 453-7051 > > (918) 948-6190 (fax) > > NOTICE: This E-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic > Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. Sections 2510-2521, is confidential > and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or > copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the > sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. > > > > *From:* Matt Love via Oama <oama@lists.imla.org> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 18, 2023 3:01 PM > *To:* Phillip Morton <mortonlawoffice@gmail.com> > *Cc:* OAMA luistserv <oama@lists.imla.org> > *Subject:* [Oama] Re: Cross-deputation reserve officers > > > > *[EXTERNAL EMAIL]* > > There's no reason they couldn't do so. The fact that they are reserves > wouldn't matter for any reason I can think of. There was initially some > confusion in an early AG's opinion about whether cross commissioning was > lawful, but the AG cleared that up years ago. So if a full Peace Officer > can be cross commissioned, I can't think of a reason why a Reserve Peace > Officer couldn't also be cross commissioned. > > > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 2:57 PM Phillip Morton via Oama < > oama@lists.imla.org> wrote: > > Does anyone know of any reason why a tribe could not cross-commission > CLEET certified reserve officers? Any authority one way or the other would > be appreciated. Thanks! > > > Phillip N. Morton, J.D. > > P.O. Box 1886 > > Ada, OK 74820 > > Phone: 580-759-0049 > > Fax: 580-759-2177 > > Email: MortonLawOffice@gmail.com > > > > CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION: This electronic mail > transmission, as well as any attachments, may contain confidential > information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of any of the > information contained in or attached to this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED > by law. If you have received this message in error, please immediately > notify us by replying to this email or by calling *580-759-0049*. > > -- > Oama mailing list -- oama@lists.imla.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oama-leave@lists.imla.org > >
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Johnson, Becky
Tue, Jul 18, 2023 11:48 PM

You have to look at the agreement between the tribe, and the entity they’re commissioning. Each tribe has a different MOU, and some of them say that only full-time employees can be commissioned. That could exclude reserves because they’re not employees and they’re not full-time.  Other MOU’s just say any Officer so part time or reserve wouldn’t be excluded.

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On Jul 18, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Matt Love via Oama oama@lists.imla.org wrote:


That very well could be the case. For those not familiar with the SLEC, it's a Federal Commission (Special Law Enforcement Commission) that the BIA can issue to State, local and Tribal Officers that essentially give the Officers jurisdiction to investigate Federal crimes. So while an SLEC would not be needed to get a Tribal commission (since each Tribe can establish their own requirements), I could see that some of the Tribes might want to ensure that they only issue a Tribal commission to someone who has gone through the training and been given a Federal commission.

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:04 PM Wil Crawford <wil@iaelaw.commailto:wil@iaelaw.com> wrote:
It’s my understanding that some tribes (Chickasaw Nation for one) require SLEC training through the BIA in order to be cross-commissioned.  But BIA doesn’t offer that training for reserve officers—you have to have a full commission.

Wil M. Crawford
Indian & Environmental Law Group, PLLC
117 S. Ash Street
Ada, OK 74820
Wil@iaelaw.commailto:Wil@iaelaw.com
(580) 453-7051
(918) 948-6190 (fax)
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There's no reason they couldn't do so. The fact that they are reserves wouldn't matter for any reason I can think of. There was initially some confusion in an early AG's opinion about whether cross commissioning was lawful, but the AG cleared that up years ago. So if a full Peace Officer can be cross commissioned, I can't think of a reason why a Reserve Peace Officer couldn't also be cross commissioned.

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 2:57 PM Phillip Morton via Oama <oama@lists.imla.orgmailto:oama@lists.imla.org> wrote:
Does anyone know of any reason why a tribe could not cross-commission CLEET certified reserve officers? Any authority one way or the other would be appreciated. Thanks!

Phillip N. Morton, J.D.
P.O. Box 1886
Ada, OK 74820
Phone: 580-759-0049
Fax: 580-759-2177
Email: MortonLawOffice@gmail.commailto:MortonLawOffice@gmail.com

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You have to look at the agreement between the tribe, and the entity they’re commissioning. Each tribe has a different MOU, and some of them say that only full-time employees can be commissioned. That could exclude reserves because they’re not employees and they’re not full-time. Other MOU’s just say any Officer so part time or reserve wouldn’t be excluded. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Matt Love via Oama <oama@lists.imla.org> wrote:  That very well could be the case. For those not familiar with the SLEC, it's a Federal Commission (Special Law Enforcement Commission) that the BIA can issue to State, local and Tribal Officers that essentially give the Officers jurisdiction to investigate Federal crimes. So while an SLEC would not be needed to get a Tribal commission (since each Tribe can establish their own requirements), I could see that some of the Tribes might want to ensure that they only issue a Tribal commission to someone who has gone through the training and been given a Federal commission. On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:04 PM Wil Crawford <wil@iaelaw.com<mailto:wil@iaelaw.com>> wrote: It’s my understanding that some tribes (Chickasaw Nation for one) require SLEC training through the BIA in order to be cross-commissioned. But BIA doesn’t offer that training for reserve officers—you have to have a full commission. Wil M. Crawford Indian & Environmental Law Group, PLLC 117 S. Ash Street Ada, OK 74820 Wil@iaelaw.com<mailto:Wil@iaelaw.com> (580) 453-7051 (918) 948-6190 (fax) <image001.png> NOTICE: This E-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. Sections 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. From: Matt Love via Oama <oama@lists.imla.org<mailto:oama@lists.imla.org>> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2023 3:01 PM To: Phillip Morton <mortonlawoffice@gmail.com<mailto:mortonlawoffice@gmail.com>> Cc: OAMA luistserv <oama@lists.imla.org<mailto:oama@lists.imla.org>> Subject: [Oama] Re: Cross-deputation reserve officers [EXTERNAL EMAIL] There's no reason they couldn't do so. The fact that they are reserves wouldn't matter for any reason I can think of. There was initially some confusion in an early AG's opinion about whether cross commissioning was lawful, but the AG cleared that up years ago. So if a full Peace Officer can be cross commissioned, I can't think of a reason why a Reserve Peace Officer couldn't also be cross commissioned. On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 2:57 PM Phillip Morton via Oama <oama@lists.imla.org<mailto:oama@lists.imla.org>> wrote: Does anyone know of any reason why a tribe could not cross-commission CLEET certified reserve officers? Any authority one way or the other would be appreciated. Thanks! Phillip N. Morton, J.D. P.O. Box 1886 Ada, OK 74820 Phone: 580-759-0049 Fax: 580-759-2177 Email: MortonLawOffice@gmail.com<mailto:MortonLawOffice@gmail.com> CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION: This electronic mail transmission, as well as any attachments, may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED by law. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify us by replying to this email or by calling 580-759-0049. -- Oama mailing list -- oama@lists.imla.org<mailto:oama@lists.imla.org> To unsubscribe send an email to oama-leave@lists.imla.org<mailto:oama-leave@lists.imla.org> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not reply, forward, click links, or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please report using the Phish Alert button in the Outlook Desktop Client if this message contains potentially unsafe content. -- Oama mailing list -- oama@lists.imla.org To unsubscribe send an email to oama-leave@lists.imla.org