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RE:T&T: Generator recommendations

CW
cooke_w@bellsouth.net
Thu, Aug 5, 2004 3:06 AM

Arild,
So that there is no misunderstanding, I don't suggest our boats be nuclear
powered, only that our onshore (or offshore for that matter) power plants be
nuclear powered.

As a point of interest there was a company in Panama City, FL that in the
80s proposed building nuclear power plants on structures several miles
offshore as a means of handling the public's concern for having nuclear
plants near inhabited areas.

Bill

Arild, So that there is no misunderstanding, I don't suggest our boats be nuclear powered, only that our onshore (or offshore for that matter) power plants be nuclear powered. As a point of interest there was a company in Panama City, FL that in the 80s proposed building nuclear power plants on structures several miles offshore as a means of handling the public's concern for having nuclear plants near inhabited areas. Bill
K
Keith
Thu, Aug 5, 2004 3:16 PM

Living in the Galveston Bay area, energy efficiency on my Krogen was very
important. Like Charles et al have said, you HAVE to have A/C down here in
the Summer. I had a $100 plus electricity bill the first summer I had the
Krogen... I went ballistic! First thing was to seal up the boat...
weather-strip or re-weatherstrip everywhere, seal up all the vents the
Krogen had built in, tint all the saloon windows with that dark limousine
tint, etc. However, the best thing I ever did was to install that foil/foam
house sheathing insulation in all the pilothouse windows, foil out of
course. Took 3 ea. 4' x 8' sheets, simply cut to fit where they required
pressing into place. Measuring the temp with the handy dandy IR thermometer,
I would read about 85 on the inside surface of the insulation, or 130 F
without. Talk about a major difference! My bill normally runs about $10 /
mo. in the winter, and the high this summer was last month, $25. This is
with two 16,000 btu units running set about 79 degrees F.

Oh yea, I spray the forward teak deck down with water 2-3 times a day if I
think about it. A tarp over it would probably help even more, but I just
can't make the boat that ugly!

Keith
__

----- Original Message -----
From: "A Jensen" elnav@uniserve.com

If live-aboad boats were built to the same insulation standards as houses,
it would use a lot less energy.

Living in the Galveston Bay area, energy efficiency on my Krogen was very important. Like Charles et al have said, you HAVE to have A/C down here in the Summer. I had a $100 plus electricity bill the first summer I had the Krogen... I went ballistic! First thing was to seal up the boat... weather-strip or re-weatherstrip everywhere, seal up all the vents the Krogen had built in, tint all the saloon windows with that dark limousine tint, etc. However, the best thing I ever did was to install that foil/foam house sheathing insulation in all the pilothouse windows, foil out of course. Took 3 ea. 4' x 8' sheets, simply cut to fit where they required pressing into place. Measuring the temp with the handy dandy IR thermometer, I would read about 85 on the inside surface of the insulation, or 130 F without. Talk about a major difference! My bill normally runs about $10 / mo. in the winter, and the high this summer was last month, $25. This is with two 16,000 btu units running set about 79 degrees F. Oh yea, I spray the forward teak deck down with water 2-3 times a day if I think about it. A tarp over it would probably help even more, but I just can't make the boat that ugly! Keith __ ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Jensen" <elnav@uniserve.com> > If live-aboad boats were built to the same insulation standards as houses, > it would use a lot less energy.
PJ
Philip J. Rosch
Thu, Aug 5, 2004 5:24 PM

I can't imagine living on a boat in 100+ degree weather on a regular basis.
I live by the "butter rule".  When the butter melts in the butter dish, it's
time to point the boat north.  When the butter tears the toast, it's time to
point the boat south.

No air conditioning so far because I'm on the hook most of the time.  Once
you get used to fans it's not bad as long as you stay out of the really hot
places.

                                      Regards....

Phil Rosch
Old Harbor Consulting
M/V Curmudgeon MT-44TC
Currently moored in Hadley's Harbor, MA

I can't imagine living on a boat in 100+ degree weather on a regular basis. I live by the "butter rule". When the butter melts in the butter dish, it's time to point the boat north. When the butter tears the toast, it's time to point the boat south. No air conditioning so far because I'm on the hook most of the time. Once you get used to fans it's not bad as long as you stay out of the really hot places. Regards.... Phil Rosch Old Harbor Consulting M/V Curmudgeon MT-44TC Currently moored in Hadley's Harbor, MA
RC
R C Smith Jr
Thu, Aug 5, 2004 6:44 PM

Keith wrote:

First thing was to seal up the boat...
weather-strip or re-weatherstrip everywhere, seal up all the vents the Krogen
had built in, tint all the saloon windows with that dark limousine tint, etc.
However, the best thing I ever did was to install that foil/foam house
sheathing insulation in all the pilothouse windows, foil out of course. Oh
yea, I spray the forward teak deck down with water 2-3 times a day if I think
about it.

PLUS, you have that wonderful Airex-cored hull....

Bob


Robert Calhoun Smith Jr
M/V MARY KATHRYN
Hatteras 58 LRC
Chesapeake Bay

Keith wrote: > First thing was to seal up the boat... > weather-strip or re-weatherstrip everywhere, seal up all the vents the Krogen > had built in, tint all the saloon windows with that dark limousine tint, etc. > However, the best thing I ever did was to install that foil/foam house > sheathing insulation in all the pilothouse windows, foil out of course. Oh > yea, I spray the forward teak deck down with water 2-3 times a day if I think > about it. PLUS, you have that wonderful Airex-cored hull.... Bob ________________ Robert Calhoun Smith Jr M/V MARY KATHRYN Hatteras 58 LRC Chesapeake Bay
AJ
A Jensen
Fri, Aug 6, 2004 1:42 AM

Living in the Galveston Bay area, energy efficiency on my Krogen was very
important. Like Charles et al have said, you HAVE to have A/C down here in
the Summer. I had a $100 plus electricity bill the first summer I had the
Krogen... I went ballistic! First thing was to seal up the boat...

REPLY
Thanks Keith, you did exactly all the right things and supported my argument
with a great example.

Arild


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Living in the Galveston Bay area, energy efficiency on my Krogen was very important. Like Charles et al have said, you HAVE to have A/C down here in the Summer. I had a $100 plus electricity bill the first summer I had the Krogen... I went ballistic! First thing was to seal up the boat... REPLY Thanks Keith, you did exactly all the right things and supported my argument with a great example. Arild --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.733 / Virus Database: 487 - Release Date: 8/2/2004