I’m also confused as to what exactly they are taking issue with over the gate. Maybe I missed a communication?
COSA is City of SA.
FM is fire marshal?
Karen Smith
425.890.5706
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:52:31 -0500
From: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com
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This might have been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA
can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit
from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate
when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to
get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other
families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men often go
awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned, something may still go
wrong with it. That is exactly what happened today. The FM's Office was
called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to deactivate the gate. The FM's
office has turned this dispute over to the COSA Attorney's office to
review. Our legal counsel has advised us to comply and leave the gate
closed until they can discuss with the COSA Attorney. That is to take
place next week. We are confident that we can resolve this to the
satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the restraint
and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road opening
until next Friday. We do have some options and will be discussing and
weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to put you
or your family in any situation that would risk their safety. The BODs
will keep you updated on progress. If you have further questions, don't
hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:26:00 -0500
From: TA tom.angotti@gmail.com
To: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com
Cc: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com, "lsr.bod"
lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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Thank you Desi. Great point.
Tom Angotti
On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:52 PM, Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com wrote:
This might have been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men often go
awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned, something may still go
wrong with it. That is exactly what happened today. The FM's Office was
called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to deactivate the gate. The FM's
office has turned this dispute over to the COSA Attorney's office to
review. Our legal counsel has advised us to comply and leave the gate
closed until they can discuss with the COSA Attorney. That is to take
place next week. We are confident that we can resolve this to the
satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the restraint
and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road opening
until next Friday. We do have some options and will be discussing and
weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to put you
or your family in any situation that would risk their safety. The BODs
will keep you updated on progress. If you have further questions, don't
hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:40:13 -0500
From: Bill Drees bdrees@gvtc.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
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Cc: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod"
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I am confused as to why COSA is even involved. FIRE District #4 and Leon Springs Fire Department have responsibility for fire protection. Why does the city have zoning and building code responsibility instead of the county?Bill Drees
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-------- Original message --------From: Desi Arnold via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Date: 9/13/18 2:52 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Cc: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod" lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
This might have been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA
can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit
from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate
when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to
get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other
families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men often go
awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned, something may still go
wrong with it.? That is exactly what happened today.? The FM's Office was
called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to deactivate the gate.? The FM's
office has turned this dispute over to the COSA Attorney's office to
review.? Our legal counsel has advised us to comply and leave the gate
closed until they can discuss with the COSA Attorney.? That is to take
place next week.? We are confident that we can resolve this to the
satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the restraint
and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road opening
until next Friday.? We do have some options and will be discussing and
weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs.? We do not want to put you
or your family in any situation that would risk their safety.? The BODs
will keep you updated on progress.? If you have further questions, don't
hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:08:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: George Carroll gtwcarroll17@yahoo.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com
Cc: Bill Drees bdrees@gvtc.com, "lsr.bod"
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Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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Bill - That?s a good question concerning the building and zoning responsibilities. ?If the county had more authority, then the argument about the COSA needing to annex to be able to restrict/limit what is built would be a mute point. ?But that?s a whole different discussion.
On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 3:40 PM, Bill Drees via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
I am confused as to why COSA is even involved. FIRE District #4 and Leon Springs Fire Department have responsibility for fire protection. Why does the city have zoning and building code responsibility instead of the county?Bill Drees
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S?6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Desi Arnold via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Date: 9/13/18? 2:52 PM? (GMT-06:00) To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Cc: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod" lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
This might have been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA
can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit
from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate
when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to
get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other
families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men often go
awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned, something may still go
wrong with it.? That is exactly what happened today.? The FM's Office was
called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to deactivate the gate.? The FM's
office has turned this dispute over to the COSA Attorney's office to
review.? Our legal counsel has advised us to comply and leave the gate
closed until they can discuss with the COSA Attorney.? That is to take
place next week.? We are confident that we can resolve this to the
satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the restraint
and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road opening
until next Friday.? We do have some options and will be discussing and
weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs.? We do not want to put you
or your family in any situation that would risk their safety.? The BODs
will keep you updated on progress.? If you have further questions, don't
hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:09:34 -0500
From: Barry & Rose thepartins@gvtc.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com
Cc: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod"
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Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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I believe COSA is City Of San Antonio. Not sure what their jurisdiction is here.
Barry
On Sep 7, 2018, at 6:40 PM, Desi Arnold via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
I believe FM is Fire Marshall. Not sure what COSA is.
What was the grounds for closing the gate?
Thanks
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 5:49 PM Kevin Kirkpatrick via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
Do you mind de-coding COSA? And FM? And perhaps summarize exactly what is
the issue about the gate to warrant the activity described?
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On Sep 7, 2018, at 4:45 PM, Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men often
go
awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned, something may still
go
wrong with it. That is exactly what happened today. The FM's Office was
called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to deactivate the gate. The FM's
office has turned this dispute over to the COSA Attorney's office to
review. Our legal counsel has advised us to comply and leave the gate
closed until they can discuss with the COSA Attorney. That is to take
place next week. We are confident that we can resolve this to the
satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the restraint
and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road opening
until next Friday. We do have some options and will be discussing and
weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to put
you
or your family in any situation that would risk their safety. The BODs
will keep you updated on progress. If you have further questions, don't
hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
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Here's another one for you... I received this in my office a few days ago notifying me of a zoning hearing to be held by the City of San Antonio on October 18 to allow discussion on a proposed zoning change that would bring our non-annexed areas under the authority of the Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay District (MLOD-01, or at least, that's the way I read it. By my reading of the COSA Annexation ballot, it looks as if they already have that authority. Does anyone have any other information on this?
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I’m also confused as to what exactly they are taking issue with over the gate. Maybe I missed a communication?
COSA is City of SA.
FM is fire marshal?
Karen Smith
425.890.5706
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:52:31 -0500
From: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com
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This might have been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to
COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would
benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would
appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all
the way around to get back home. I know other families in this
neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it. That is exactly what happened
today. The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to
deactivate the gate. The FM's office has turned this dispute over to
the COSA Attorney's office to review. Our legal counsel has advised
us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with
the COSA Attorney. That is to take place next week. We are
confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday. We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their safety.
The BODs will keep you updated on progress. If you have further
questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:26:00 -0500
From: TA tom.angotti@gmail.com
To: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com
Cc: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com, "lsr.bod"
lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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Thank you Desi. Great point.
Tom Angotti
On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:52 PM, Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com wrote:
This might have been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it. That is exactly what happened
today. The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate
to deactivate the gate. The FM's office has turned this dispute
over to the COSA Attorney's office to review. Our legal counsel has
advised us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can
discuss with the COSA Attorney. That is to take place next week.
We are confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday. We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their
safety. The BODs will keep you updated on progress. If you have
further questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:40:13 -0500
From: Bill Drees bdrees@gvtc.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com
Cc: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod"
lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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I am confused as to why COSA is even involved. FIRE District #4 and
Leon Springs Fire Department have responsibility for fire protection.
Why does the city have zoning and building code responsibility instead
of the county?Bill Drees
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S?6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Desi Arnold via Discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Date: 9/13/18 2:52 PM
(GMT-06:00) To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Cc: Desi Arnold
dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod" lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate This might have
been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it.? That is exactly what happened
today.? The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to
deactivate the gate.? The FM's office has turned this dispute over to
the COSA Attorney's office to review.? Our legal counsel has advised
us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with
the COSA Attorney.? That is to take place next week.? We are
confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday.? We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs.? We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their
safety.? The BODs will keep you updated on progress.? If you have
further questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:08:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: George Carroll gtwcarroll17@yahoo.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
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Cc: Bill Drees bdrees@gvtc.com, "lsr.bod"
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Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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Bill - That?s a good question concerning the building and zoning responsibilities. ?If the county had more authority, then the argument about the COSA needing to annex to be able to restrict/limit what is built would be a mute point. ?But that?s a whole different discussion.
On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 3:40 PM, Bill Drees via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
I am confused as to why COSA is even involved. FIRE District #4 and
Leon Springs Fire Department have responsibility for fire protection.
Why does the city have zoning and building code responsibility instead
of the county?Bill Drees
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S?6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Desi Arnold via Discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Date: 9/13/18? 2:52 PM?
(GMT-06:00) To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Cc: Desi Arnold
dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod" lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate This might have
been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it.? That is exactly what happened
today.? The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to
deactivate the gate.? The FM's office has turned this dispute over to
the COSA Attorney's office to review.? Our legal counsel has advised
us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with
the COSA Attorney.? That is to take place next week.? We are
confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday.? We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs.? We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their
safety.? The BODs will keep you updated on progress.? If you have
further questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:09:34 -0500
From: Barry & Rose thepartins@gvtc.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
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Cc: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod"
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Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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I believe COSA is City Of San Antonio. Not sure what their jurisdiction is here.
Barry
On Sep 7, 2018, at 6:40 PM, Desi Arnold via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
I believe FM is Fire Marshall. Not sure what COSA is.
What was the grounds for closing the gate?
Thanks
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 5:49 PM Kevin Kirkpatrick via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
Do you mind de-coding COSA? And FM? And perhaps summarize exactly
what is the issue about the gate to warrant the activity described?
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 7, 2018, at 4:45 PM, Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often
go
awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned, something may
still
go
wrong with it. That is exactly what happened today. The FM's
Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to deactivate the
gate. The FM's office has turned this dispute over to the COSA
Attorney's office to review. Our legal counsel has advised us to
comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with the
COSA Attorney. That is to take place next week. We are confident
that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday. We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to
put
you
or your family in any situation that would risk their safety. The
BODs will keep you updated on progress. If you have further
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Berry,
You are 100% correct. The state legislature gave the military that Authority when they passed the no annexation Bill last year.
In my humble opinion the city of San Antonio is trying to intimidate voters in thinking that annexation in preferable to military oversight and nothing could be further from the truth. The military portion of that statute will have minimal to no impact on our subdivision.
Everyone needs to vote for option two on November 6th. This will send a clear message to the city of San Antonio that we have no interest or desire in being annexed by the city of San Antonio. We will derive no benefit except for higher taxes and less service.
Thanks, Greg Anderson
-------- Original message --------From: Barry & Rose Partin via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Date: 9/14/18 11:06 AM (GMT-06:00) To: 'Limestone Ranch HOA discussion' discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Cc: Barry & Rose Partin thepartins@gvtc.com, 'Karen Smith' karen@thenwsmithfamily.com Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Discussion Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
Here's another one for you... I received this in my office a few days ago notifying me of a zoning hearing to be held by the City of San Antonio on October 18 to allow discussion on a proposed zoning change that would bring our non-annexed areas under the authority of the Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay District (MLOD-01, or at least, that's the way I read it. By my reading of the COSA Annexation ballot, it looks as if they already have that authority. Does anyone have any other information on this?
Barry Partin
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I’m also confused as to what exactly they are taking issue with over the gate. Maybe I missed a communication?
COSA is City of SA.
FM is fire marshal?
Karen Smith
425.890.5706
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5. Re: Back Gate (Barry & Rose)
Message: 1
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:52:31 -0500
From: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com
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This might have been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to
COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would
benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would
appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all
the way around to get back home. I know other families in this
neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it. That is exactly what happened
today. The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to
deactivate the gate. The FM's office has turned this dispute over to
the COSA Attorney's office to review. Our legal counsel has advised
us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with
the COSA Attorney. That is to take place next week. We are
confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday. We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their safety.
The BODs will keep you updated on progress. If you have further
questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:26:00 -0500
From: TA tom.angotti@gmail.com
To: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com
Cc: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com, "lsr.bod"
lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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Thank you Desi. Great point.
Tom Angotti
On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:52 PM, Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com wrote:
This might have been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it. That is exactly what happened
today. The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate
to deactivate the gate. The FM's office has turned this dispute
over to the COSA Attorney's office to review. Our legal counsel has
advised us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can
discuss with the COSA Attorney. That is to take place next week.
We are confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday. We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their
safety. The BODs will keep you updated on progress. If you have
further questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:40:13 -0500
From: Bill Drees bdrees@gvtc.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com
Cc: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod"
lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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I am confused as to why COSA is even involved. FIRE District #4 and
Leon Springs Fire Department have responsibility for fire protection.
Why does the city have zoning and building code responsibility instead
of the county?Bill Drees
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S?6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Desi Arnold via Discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Date: 9/13/18 2:52 PM
(GMT-06:00) To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Cc: Desi Arnold
dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod" lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate This might have
been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it.? That is exactly what happened
today.? The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to
deactivate the gate.? The FM's office has turned this dispute over to
the COSA Attorney's office to review.? Our legal counsel has advised
us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with
the COSA Attorney.? That is to take place next week.? We are
confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday.? We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs.? We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their
safety.? The BODs will keep you updated on progress.? If you have
further questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:08:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: George Carroll gtwcarroll17@yahoo.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
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Cc: Bill Drees bdrees@gvtc.com, "lsr.bod"
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Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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Bill - That?s a good question concerning the building and zoning responsibilities. ?If the county had more authority, then the argument about the COSA needing to annex to be able to restrict/limit what is built would be a mute point. ?But that?s a whole different discussion.
On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 3:40 PM, Bill Drees via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
I am confused as to why COSA is even involved. FIRE District #4 and
Leon Springs Fire Department have responsibility for fire protection.
Why does the city have zoning and building code responsibility instead
of the county?Bill Drees
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S?6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Desi Arnold via Discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Date: 9/13/18? 2:52 PM?
(GMT-06:00) To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Cc: Desi Arnold
dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod" lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate This might have
been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it.? That is exactly what happened
today.? The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to
deactivate the gate.? The FM's office has turned this dispute over to
the COSA Attorney's office to review.? Our legal counsel has advised
us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with
the COSA Attorney.? That is to take place next week.? We are
confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday.? We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs.? We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their
safety.? The BODs will keep you updated on progress.? If you have
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:09:34 -0500
From: Barry & Rose thepartins@gvtc.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com
Cc: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod"
lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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I believe COSA is City Of San Antonio. Not sure what their jurisdiction is here.
Barry
On Sep 7, 2018, at 6:40 PM, Desi Arnold via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
I believe FM is Fire Marshall. Not sure what COSA is.
What was the grounds for closing the gate?
Thanks
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 5:49 PM Kevin Kirkpatrick via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
Do you mind de-coding COSA? And FM? And perhaps summarize exactly
what is the issue about the gate to warrant the activity described?
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 7, 2018, at 4:45 PM, Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often
go
awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned, something may
still
go
wrong with it. That is exactly what happened today. The FM's
Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to deactivate the
gate. The FM's office has turned this dispute over to the COSA
Attorney's office to review. Our legal counsel has advised us to
comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with the
COSA Attorney. That is to take place next week. We are confident
that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday. We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to
put
you
or your family in any situation that would risk their safety. The
BODs will keep you updated on progress. If you have further
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Sorry Barry. Didn't mean to misspell your name.
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Here's another one for you... I received this in my office a few days ago notifying me of a zoning hearing to be held by the City of San Antonio on October 18 to allow discussion on a proposed zoning change that would bring our non-annexed areas under the authority of the Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay District (MLOD-01, or at least, that's the way I read it. By my reading of the COSA Annexation ballot, it looks as if they already have that authority. Does anyone have any other information on this?
Barry Partin
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I’m also confused as to what exactly they are taking issue with over the gate. Maybe I missed a communication?
COSA is City of SA.
FM is fire marshal?
Karen Smith
425.890.5706
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:52:31 -0500
From: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com
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This might have been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to
COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would
benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would
appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all
the way around to get back home. I know other families in this
neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it. That is exactly what happened
today. The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to
deactivate the gate. The FM's office has turned this dispute over to
the COSA Attorney's office to review. Our legal counsel has advised
us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with
the COSA Attorney. That is to take place next week. We are
confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday. We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their safety.
The BODs will keep you updated on progress. If you have further
questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:26:00 -0500
From: TA tom.angotti@gmail.com
To: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com
Cc: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com, "lsr.bod"
lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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Thank you Desi. Great point.
Tom Angotti
On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:52 PM, Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com wrote:
This might have been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it. That is exactly what happened
today. The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate
to deactivate the gate. The FM's office has turned this dispute
over to the COSA Attorney's office to review. Our legal counsel has
advised us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can
discuss with the COSA Attorney. That is to take place next week.
We are confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday. We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their
safety. The BODs will keep you updated on progress. If you have
further questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:40:13 -0500
From: Bill Drees bdrees@gvtc.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com
Cc: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod"
lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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I am confused as to why COSA is even involved. FIRE District #4 and
Leon Springs Fire Department have responsibility for fire protection.
Why does the city have zoning and building code responsibility instead
of the county?Bill Drees
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S?6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Desi Arnold via Discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Date: 9/13/18 2:52 PM
(GMT-06:00) To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Cc: Desi Arnold
dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod" lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate This might have
been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it.? That is exactly what happened
today.? The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to
deactivate the gate.? The FM's office has turned this dispute over to
the COSA Attorney's office to review.? Our legal counsel has advised
us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with
the COSA Attorney.? That is to take place next week.? We are
confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday.? We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs.? We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their
safety.? The BODs will keep you updated on progress.? If you have
further questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:08:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: George Carroll gtwcarroll17@yahoo.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com
Cc: Bill Drees bdrees@gvtc.com, "lsr.bod"
lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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Bill - That?s a good question concerning the building and zoning responsibilities. ?If the county had more authority, then the argument about the COSA needing to annex to be able to restrict/limit what is built would be a mute point. ?But that?s a whole different discussion.
On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 3:40 PM, Bill Drees via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
I am confused as to why COSA is even involved. FIRE District #4 and
Leon Springs Fire Department have responsibility for fire protection.
Why does the city have zoning and building code responsibility instead
of the county?Bill Drees
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S?6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Desi Arnold via Discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Date: 9/13/18? 2:52 PM?
(GMT-06:00) To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Cc: Desi Arnold
dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod" lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate This might have
been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it.? That is exactly what happened
today.? The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to
deactivate the gate.? The FM's office has turned this dispute over to
the COSA Attorney's office to review.? Our legal counsel has advised
us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with
the COSA Attorney.? That is to take place next week.? We are
confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday.? We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs.? We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their
safety.? The BODs will keep you updated on progress.? If you have
further questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:09:34 -0500
From: Barry & Rose thepartins@gvtc.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com
Cc: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod"
lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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I believe COSA is City Of San Antonio. Not sure what their jurisdiction is here.
Barry
On Sep 7, 2018, at 6:40 PM, Desi Arnold via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
I believe FM is Fire Marshall. Not sure what COSA is.
What was the grounds for closing the gate?
Thanks
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 5:49 PM Kevin Kirkpatrick via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
Do you mind de-coding COSA? And FM? And perhaps summarize exactly
what is the issue about the gate to warrant the activity described?
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 7, 2018, at 4:45 PM, Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often
go
awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned, something may
still
go
wrong with it. That is exactly what happened today. The FM's
Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to deactivate the
gate. The FM's office has turned this dispute over to the COSA
Attorney's office to review. Our legal counsel has advised us to
comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with the
COSA Attorney. That is to take place next week. We are confident
that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday. We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to
put
you
or your family in any situation that would risk their safety. The
BODs will keep you updated on progress. If you have further
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Thanks, Greg. I wish the City of San Antonio would use the word confiscation instead of annexation. Much more accurate description of the process. All we get is less money in our bank accounts and no services we don't already have. Thanks to all the people working to avoid this disaster.
Larry Adian
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To: "Limestone Ranch HOA discussion" discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com
Cc: "Greg Anderson" grega@satx.rr.com, "Karen Smith" karen@thenwsmithfamily.com
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 11:31:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Discussion Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
Berry,
You are 100% correct. The state legislature gave the military that Authority when they passed the no annexation Bill last year.
In my humble opinion the city of San Antonio is trying to intimidate voters in thinking that annexation in preferable to military oversight and nothing could be further from the truth. The military portion of that statute will have minimal to no impact on our subdivision.
Everyone needs to vote for option two on November 6th. This will send a clear message to the city of San Antonio that we have no interest or desire in being annexed by the city of San Antonio. We will derive no benefit except for higher taxes and less service.
Thanks, Greg Anderson
-------- Original message --------From: Barry & Rose Partin via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Date: 9/14/18 11:06 AM (GMT-06:00) To: 'Limestone Ranch HOA discussion' discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Cc: Barry & Rose Partin thepartins@gvtc.com, 'Karen Smith' karen@thenwsmithfamily.com Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Discussion Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
Here's another one for you... I received this in my office a few days ago notifying me of a zoning hearing to be held by the City of San Antonio on October 18 to allow discussion on a proposed zoning change that would bring our non-annexed areas under the authority of the Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay District (MLOD-01, or at least, that's the way I read it. By my reading of the COSA Annexation ballot, it looks as if they already have that authority. Does anyone have any other information on this?
Barry Partin
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I’m also confused as to what exactly they are taking issue with over the gate. Maybe I missed a communication?
COSA is City of SA.
FM is fire marshal?
Karen Smith
425.890.5706
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:52:31 -0500
From: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
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Cc: "lsr.bod" lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com, Thomas Angotti
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This might have been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to
COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would
benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would
appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all
the way around to get back home. I know other families in this
neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it. That is exactly what happened
today. The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to
deactivate the gate. The FM's office has turned this dispute over to
the COSA Attorney's office to review. Our legal counsel has advised
us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with
the COSA Attorney. That is to take place next week. We are
confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday. We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their safety.
The BODs will keep you updated on progress. If you have further
questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:26:00 -0500
From: TA tom.angotti@gmail.com
To: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com
Cc: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com, "lsr.bod"
lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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Thank you Desi. Great point.
Tom Angotti
On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:52 PM, Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com wrote:
This might have been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it. That is exactly what happened
today. The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate
to deactivate the gate. The FM's office has turned this dispute
over to the COSA Attorney's office to review. Our legal counsel has
advised us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can
discuss with the COSA Attorney. That is to take place next week.
We are confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday. We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their
safety. The BODs will keep you updated on progress. If you have
further questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:40:13 -0500
From: Bill Drees bdrees@gvtc.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com
Cc: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod"
lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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I am confused as to why COSA is even involved. FIRE District #4 and
Leon Springs Fire Department have responsibility for fire protection.
Why does the city have zoning and building code responsibility instead
of the county?Bill Drees
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S?6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Desi Arnold via Discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Date: 9/13/18 2:52 PM
(GMT-06:00) To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Cc: Desi Arnold
dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod" lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate This might have
been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it.? That is exactly what happened
today.? The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to
deactivate the gate.? The FM's office has turned this dispute over to
the COSA Attorney's office to review.? Our legal counsel has advised
us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with
the COSA Attorney.? That is to take place next week.? We are
confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday.? We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs.? We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their
safety.? The BODs will keep you updated on progress.? If you have
further questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:08:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: George Carroll gtwcarroll17@yahoo.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com
Cc: Bill Drees bdrees@gvtc.com, "lsr.bod"
lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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Bill - That?s a good question concerning the building and zoning responsibilities. ?If the county had more authority, then the argument about the COSA needing to annex to be able to restrict/limit what is built would be a mute point. ?But that?s a whole different discussion.
On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 3:40 PM, Bill Drees via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
I am confused as to why COSA is even involved. FIRE District #4 and
Leon Springs Fire Department have responsibility for fire protection.
Why does the city have zoning and building code responsibility instead
of the county?Bill Drees
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S?6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Desi Arnold via Discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Date: 9/13/18? 2:52 PM?
(GMT-06:00) To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Cc: Desi Arnold
dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod" lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate This might have
been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it.? That is exactly what happened
today.? The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to
deactivate the gate.? The FM's office has turned this dispute over to
the COSA Attorney's office to review.? Our legal counsel has advised
us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with
the COSA Attorney.? That is to take place next week.? We are
confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday.? We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs.? We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their
safety.? The BODs will keep you updated on progress.? If you have
further questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:09:34 -0500
From: Barry & Rose thepartins@gvtc.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
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Cc: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod"
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I believe COSA is City Of San Antonio. Not sure what their jurisdiction is here.
Barry
On Sep 7, 2018, at 6:40 PM, Desi Arnold via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
I believe FM is Fire Marshall. Not sure what COSA is.
What was the grounds for closing the gate?
Thanks
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 5:49 PM Kevin Kirkpatrick via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
Do you mind de-coding COSA? And FM? And perhaps summarize exactly
what is the issue about the gate to warrant the activity described?
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 7, 2018, at 4:45 PM, Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often
go
awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned, something may
still
go
wrong with it. That is exactly what happened today. The FM's
Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to deactivate the
gate. The FM's office has turned this dispute over to the COSA
Attorney's office to review. Our legal counsel has advised us to
comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with the
COSA Attorney. That is to take place next week. We are confident
that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday. We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to
put
you
or your family in any situation that would risk their safety. The
BODs will keep you updated on progress. If you have further
questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Something that should be of interest, whether annexed or not, Camp Bullis will continue to fight to maintain that same authority. COSA will also likely grant it because if Camp Bullis can’t maintain some of the restrictions around it for their training, the Army and Air Force may decide the hassle is too much to keep it open.
If Camp Bullis closes, Ft Sam Houston is likely to close. It needs Camp Bullis to fulfill its training mission. It was a hard sell in the last round of BRAC to keep all the military money in the city that we did. Trying to make voters think annexation would change those restrictions in any way is ludicrous. That’s too many billion (with a B) dollars at stake for them.
Restrictions will stay. Annexation means more tax, less service.
Richard Agee
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On Sep 14, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Greg Anderson via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
Berry,
You are 100% correct. The state legislature gave the military that Authority when they passed the no annexation Bill last year.
In my humble opinion the city of San Antonio is trying to intimidate voters in thinking that annexation in preferable to military oversight and nothing could be further from the truth. The military portion of that statute will have minimal to no impact on our subdivision.
Everyone needs to vote for option two on November 6th. This will send a clear message to the city of San Antonio that we have no interest or desire in being annexed by the city of San Antonio. We will derive no benefit except for higher taxes and less service.
Thanks, Greg Anderson
-------- Original message --------From: Barry & Rose Partin via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Date: 9/14/18 11:06 AM (GMT-06:00) To: 'Limestone Ranch HOA discussion' discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Cc: Barry & Rose Partin thepartins@gvtc.com, 'Karen Smith' karen@thenwsmithfamily.com Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Discussion Digest, Vol 79, Issue 16
Here's another one for you... I received this in my office a few days ago notifying me of a zoning hearing to be held by the City of San Antonio on October 18 to allow discussion on a proposed zoning change that would bring our non-annexed areas under the authority of the Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay District (MLOD-01, or at least, that's the way I read it. By my reading of the COSA Annexation ballot, it looks as if they already have that authority. Does anyone have any other information on this?
Barry Partin
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I’m also confused as to what exactly they are taking issue with over the gate. Maybe I missed a communication?
COSA is City of SA.
FM is fire marshal?
Karen Smith
425.890.5706
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:52:31 -0500
From: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com
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This might have been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to
COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would
benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would
appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all
the way around to get back home. I know other families in this
neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it. That is exactly what happened
today. The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to
deactivate the gate. The FM's office has turned this dispute over to
the COSA Attorney's office to review. Our legal counsel has advised
us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with
the COSA Attorney. That is to take place next week. We are
confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday. We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their safety.
The BODs will keep you updated on progress. If you have further
questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:26:00 -0500
From: TA tom.angotti@gmail.com
To: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com
Cc: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com, "lsr.bod"
lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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Thank you Desi. Great point.
Tom Angotti
On Sep 13, 2018, at 2:52 PM, Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com wrote:
This might have been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it. That is exactly what happened
today. The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate
to deactivate the gate. The FM's office has turned this dispute
over to the COSA Attorney's office to review. Our legal counsel has
advised us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can
discuss with the COSA Attorney. That is to take place next week.
We are confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday. We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their
safety. The BODs will keep you updated on progress. If you have
further questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:40:13 -0500
From: Bill Drees bdrees@gvtc.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com
Cc: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod"
lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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I am confused as to why COSA is even involved. FIRE District #4 and
Leon Springs Fire Department have responsibility for fire protection.
Why does the city have zoning and building code responsibility instead
of the county?Bill Drees
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S?6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Desi Arnold via Discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Date: 9/13/18 2:52 PM
(GMT-06:00) To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Cc: Desi Arnold
dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod" lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate This might have
been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it.? That is exactly what happened
today.? The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to
deactivate the gate.? The FM's office has turned this dispute over to
the COSA Attorney's office to review.? Our legal counsel has advised
us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with
the COSA Attorney.? That is to take place next week.? We are
confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday.? We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs.? We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their
safety.? The BODs will keep you updated on progress.? If you have
further questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
Thank you.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:08:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: George Carroll gtwcarroll17@yahoo.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
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Cc: Bill Drees bdrees@gvtc.com, "lsr.bod"
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Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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Bill - That?s a good question concerning the building and zoning responsibilities. ?If the county had more authority, then the argument about the COSA needing to annex to be able to restrict/limit what is built would be a mute point. ?But that?s a whole different discussion.
On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 3:40 PM, Bill Drees via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
I am confused as to why COSA is even involved. FIRE District #4 and
Leon Springs Fire Department have responsibility for fire protection.
Why does the city have zoning and building code responsibility instead
of the county?Bill Drees
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S?6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Desi Arnold via Discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Date: 9/13/18? 2:52 PM?
(GMT-06:00) To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com Cc: Desi Arnold
dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod" lsr.bod@limestoneranchhoa.com
Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate This might have
been thought of, but just in case. when this goes to COSA can you mention that families on the other side of the gate would benefit from it being open. I know 5 families on that side that would appreciate when they are in this neighborhood not to have to go all the way around to get back home. I know other families in this neighborhood must know other families as well.
Just a thought.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 6:48 PM Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often go awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned,
something may still go wrong with it.? That is exactly what happened
today.? The FM's Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to
deactivate the gate.? The FM's office has turned this dispute over to
the COSA Attorney's office to review.? Our legal counsel has advised
us to comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with
the COSA Attorney.? That is to take place next week.? We are
confident that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday.? We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs.? We do not want to
put you or your family in any situation that would risk their
safety.? The BODs will keep you updated on progress.? If you have
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:09:34 -0500
From: Barry & Rose thepartins@gvtc.com
To: Limestone Ranch HOA discussion
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com
Cc: Desi Arnold dwsssfarnold@gmail.com, "lsr.bod"
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Subject: Re: [Limestone Ranch Discussion] Back Gate
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I believe COSA is City Of San Antonio. Not sure what their jurisdiction is here.
Barry
On Sep 7, 2018, at 6:40 PM, Desi Arnold via Discussion discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com wrote:
I believe FM is Fire Marshall. Not sure what COSA is.
What was the grounds for closing the gate?
Thanks
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 5:49 PM Kevin Kirkpatrick via Discussion <
discussion@lists.limestoneranchhoa.com> wrote:
Do you mind de-coding COSA? And FM? And perhaps summarize exactly
what is the issue about the gate to warrant the activity described?
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 7, 2018, at 4:45 PM, Thomas Angotti via Discussion <
LSR Residents,
You have heard the phrase, the best-laid plans of mice and men
often
go
awry. No matter how carefully a project is planned, something may
still
go
wrong with it. That is exactly what happened today. The FM's
Office was called to LSR with Quality Access Gate to deactivate the
gate. The FM's office has turned this dispute over to the COSA
Attorney's office to review. Our legal counsel has advised us to
comply and leave the gate closed until they can discuss with the
COSA Attorney. That is to take place next week. We are confident
that we can resolve this to the satisfaction of the COSA and LSR.
I do want to give a huge shout out to LSR for the courtesy, the
restraint and genuine respect shown as you passed through the back gate this am.
This again defines who we are and how others perceive us.
Fortunately for us, the rain has delayed the front access road
opening until next Friday. We do have some options and will be
discussing and weighing those with our legal counsel.
As always, your safety is priority for the BODs. We do not want to
put
you
or your family in any situation that would risk their safety. The
BODs will keep you updated on progress. If you have further
questions, don't hesitate to reach out to any of the BODs.
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