Surely I can't be the only person who estimates that the timetable for that is totally fraught with booger-bears? Are they unaware of the "old saw" that the worst thing you can have when boating is a schedule? Are those folks totally ignorant of times to get through locks and speed limits in various places in both Canada and USA?? I know the Beneteau is billed as a "fast trawler" but I believe that there are many places where they simply can not travel rapidly. They are also apparently unaware or ignoring the fact that locks are frequently CLOSED for unexpected reasons. SHEESH! * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** D C "Mac" Macdonald ** * OKC & Grand Lake (OK) * ** AGLCA (#217) & USPS ** ** USAF & FAA, Retired ** ** Amateur Radio K2GKK ** * * * * * * * * * * * * *

I'm guessing they just put a schedule in to have something to work from. When we did the Loop, I also put a schedule in just for a starting point.(Interestingly enough, however, we arrived home one day later than the schedule I had entered 11 months earlier!!). It's not a schedule that's dangerous-it's an unwavering commitment to that schedule that's bad!   Sally Miller ONE OLIVER II  

Hi Mac and others, Have you seen a detailed schedule for the Beneteau trip? If so can you forward the link. The only schedule I saw is leaving Annapolis on May 15 and returning in September or 4 to 4 1/2 months. If they bypass Canada and go through the Great Lakes the schedule is probably very doable. I'm assuming they will not be stopping much. Do you remember how long it took the girls in the Alumacraft a few years ago? I remember passing them when we were coming down the Hudson. John & Cyndi Esch, AGLCA #2728, MTOA #2302 Carrollton, TX 75006 214-500-9478-John (Verizon) Fet-Esch,a 48' Chung Hwa Seamaster Currently "Backward Looping" and lying Anchorage Marina, Baltimore Inner Harbor www.Fet-Esch.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "D C *Mac* Macdonald" <k2gkk@hotmail.com> To: "Great Loop List" <great-loop@lists.trawlering.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:12 PM Subject: GL: Beneteau's So-called "Greatest Loop" > > Surely I can't be the only person who estimates that the > timetable for that is totally fraught with booger-bears? > > Are they unaware of the "old saw" that the worst thing you > can have when boating is a schedule? > > Are those folks totally ignorant of times to get through > locks and speed limits in various places in both Canada > and USA?? I know the Beneteau is billed as a "fast trawler" > but I believe that there are many places where they simply > can not travel rapidly. They are also apparently unaware > or ignoring the fact that locks are frequently CLOSED for > unexpected reasons. > > SHEESH! > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * > ** D C "Mac" Macdonald ** > * OKC & Grand Lake (OK) * > ** AGLCA (#217) & USPS ** > ** USAF & FAA, Retired ** > ** Amateur Radio K2GKK ** > * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Hi, John: The link is http://www.thegreatestloop.com. You can sign up for updates or just click on the route or FaceBook links. Bill At 07:24 PM 4/11/2012, johnesch88@sbcglobal.net wrote: >Hi Mac and others, > Have you seen a detailed schedule for the Beneteau trip? If so > can you forward the link. The only schedule I saw is leaving > Annapolis on May 15 and returning in September or 4 to 4 1/2 > months. If they bypass Canada and go through the Great Lakes the > schedule is probably very doable. I'm assuming they will not be > stopping much. Do you remember how long it took the girls in the > Alumacraft a few years ago? I remember passing them when we were > coming down the Hudson. > >John & Cyndi Esch, AGLCA #2728, MTOA #2302 >Carrollton, TX 75006 >214-500-9478-John (Verizon) > >Fet-Esch,a 48' Chung Hwa Seamaster >Currently "Backward Looping" and lying Anchorage Marina, Baltimore >Inner Harbor >www.Fet-Esch.com > >----- Original Message ----- From: "D C *Mac* Macdonald" <k2gkk@hotmail.com> >To: "Great Loop List" <great-loop@lists.trawlering.com> >Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:12 PM >Subject: GL: Beneteau's So-called "Greatest Loop" > > >> >>Surely I can't be the only person who estimates that the >>timetable for that is totally fraught with booger-bears? >> >>Are they unaware of the "old saw" that the worst thing you >>can have when boating is a schedule? >> >>Are those folks totally ignorant of times to get through >>locks and speed limits in various places in both Canada >>and USA?? I know the Beneteau is billed as a "fast trawler" >>but I believe that there are many places where they simply >>can not travel rapidly. They are also apparently unaware >>or ignoring the fact that locks are frequently CLOSED for >>unexpected reasons. >> >>SHEESH! >> >>* * * * * * * * * * * * * >>** D C "Mac" Macdonald ** >>* OKC & Grand Lake (OK) * >>** AGLCA (#217) & USPS ** >>** USAF & FAA, Retired ** >>** Amateur Radio K2GKK ** >>* * * * * * * * * * * * * > > >_______________________________________________ >http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > >To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, >unsubscribe, etc.) go to: >http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > > > >======= >Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >(Email Guard: 9.0.0.912, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19600) >http://www.pctools.com/ >=======

This is precisely what happens when marketing tampers with the technical areas. R. -----Original Message----- From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com [mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of D C *Mac* Macdonald Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:12 PM To: Great Loop List Subject: GL: Beneteau's So-called "Greatest Loop" Surely I can't be the only person who estimates that the timetable for that is totally fraught with booger-bears? Are they unaware of the "old saw" that the worst thing you can have when boating is a schedule? Are those folks totally ignorant of times to get through locks and speed limits in various places in both Canada and USA?? I know the Beneteau is billed as a "fast trawler" but I believe that there are many places where they simply can not travel rapidly. They are also apparently unaware or ignoring the fact that locks are frequently CLOSED for unexpected reasons.

>> The link is http://www.thegreatestloop.com. << Thanks for the update. It looks pretty aggressive for 4+ months but I guess doable. >>The question is why!!!<< Treadnwater<< >>2006-2007<< Treadnwater, I agree wholly with your statement. Their objective is obviously marketing and in no way will represent how the majority of the people do the Loop. Obviously there are a number of people who do it in 4-6 months. And then there are others, like us, who are currently starting year 8 doing the Loop backwards from Texas and have made it to Baltimore. However, we plan to leave the Chesapeake this summer and hopefully end up around Jacksonville, FL. The thing to remember, though, is that they are on a boat traveling and enjoying. It's much better than hanging around the Hacienda and wondering what it would be like out there on the open waterways. As always, Different Strokes for Different Folks. John & Cyndi Esch, AGLCA #2728, MTOA #2302 Carrollton, TX 75006 214-500-9478-John (Verizon) Fet-Esch,a 48' Chung Hwa Seamaster Currently "Backward Looping" and lying Anchorage Marina, Baltimore Inner Harbor www.Fet-Esch.com