Adrian Godwin said:
If you use the ovened oscillator for temporary use away from the home GPSDO,
how good will the oscillator be with those interruptions to power /
temperature, and will it stabilise during the period you're using it there ?
You can solve that with a UPS and/or a gizmo that plugs into a car accessory
socket.
How much does the mechanical jostling as gear gets moved from bench to car to
table effect the frequency?
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On Jun 28, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Hal Murray via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:
Adrian Godwin said:
If you use the ovened oscillator for temporary use away from the home GPSDO,
how good will the oscillator be with those interruptions to power /
temperature, and will it stabilise during the period you're using it there ?
You can solve that with a UPS and/or a gizmo that plugs into a car accessory
socket.
You still power it down doing that. Power cycle generally isn’t a good idea if you
are after good stability.
How much does the mechanical jostling as gear gets moved from bench to car to
table effect the frequency?
If you flip it end for end you might be measuring the “2g tip” acceleration sensitivity :).
That could be up in the 1 to 2 ppb range. Shock and vibe is very much a “that depends”
sort of thing. You could (but probably won’t) see a couple of ppb.
The biggest issue is going to be the changing temperature environment. Thermal shock
is going to create a bigger change than simple temperature change. Going from inside
to outside to car to outside to inside …. each one is a relatively fast change. You might
have a device that held a ppb in a normal temp test and it changes 10X that (or more)
when hit with a relatively modest “fast change”.
Just what’s fast and how much of a change you get is very much a “that depends” sort
of thing. Leave the cover off your OCXO mechanical trimmer and you could find that it
is very sensitive to a gentle gust of wind from the wrong direction ….
Bob
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OCXOs generally don’t require a lot of power. A small (portable size) UPS
can keep the OCXO powered up while on the move. With an appropriate
inverter, the UPS can be powered by a vehicle. Think “flying clock” of
years ago.
On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 3:59 PM Bob kb8tq via time-nuts <
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On Jun 28, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Hal Murray via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
Adrian Godwin said:
If you use the ovened oscillator for temporary use away from the home
GPSDO,
how good will the oscillator be with those interruptions to power /
temperature, and will it stabilise during the period you're using it
there ?
You can solve that with a UPS and/or a gizmo that plugs into a car
accessory
socket.
You still power it down doing that. Power cycle generally isn’t a good
idea if you
are after good stability.
How much does the mechanical jostling as gear gets moved from bench to
car to
table effect the frequency?
If you flip it end for end you might be measuring the “2g tip”
acceleration sensitivity :).
That could be up in the 1 to 2 ppb range. Shock and vibe is very much a
“that depends”
sort of thing. You could (but probably won’t) see a couple of ppb.
The biggest issue is going to be the changing temperature environment.
Thermal shock
is going to create a bigger change than simple temperature change. Going
from inside
to outside to car to outside to inside …. each one is a relatively fast
change. You might
have a device that held a ppb in a normal temp test and it changes 10X
that (or more)
when hit with a relatively modest “fast change”.
Just what’s fast and how much of a change you get is very much a “that
depends” sort
of thing. Leave the cover off your OCXO mechanical trimmer and you could
find that it
is very sensitive to a gentle gust of wind from the wrong direction ….
Bob
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