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Re: GL: Radar reflectors-beating a dead horse

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fred@tug44.org
Thu, May 24, 2012 9:57 PM

On the canals it is sort of pointless to use radar, but I do it anyway.  Ya
never know when somebody will sneak up behind ya and cut across your bow at
high speed.  Ya can see them coming on the radar.

Fred
Tug 44


From: "John & Judy Gill" jjgill@twojscom.com
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:38 PM
To: "Bob McLeran" Bob@MVSanderling.net
Subject: Re: GL: Radar reflectors-beating a dead horse

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  1. Have RADAR - must use it and need to learn how to read various targets
    before critical use.

2,  Have RADAR but DO NOT use it, because it is too hard to read and
understand or uses too much alternator DC power.

Y'all Vote Now.

John

On the canals it is sort of pointless to use radar, but I do it anyway. Ya never know when somebody will sneak up behind ya and cut across your bow at high speed. Ya can see them coming on the radar. Fred Tug 44 ---------------------------------------- From: "John & Judy Gill" <jjgill@twojscom.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:38 PM To: "Bob McLeran" <Bob@MVSanderling.net> Subject: Re: GL: Radar reflectors-beating a dead horse x--- snip ---x 1. Have RADAR - must use it and need to learn how to read various targets before critical use. 2, Have RADAR but DO NOT use it, because it is too hard to read and understand or uses too much alternator DC power. Y'all Vote Now. John
BD
Bill Donovan
Thu, May 24, 2012 10:54 PM

Here's a real sea story...

It happened one lousy day (daytime) of bad weather in the middle of
the Atlantic on our way from the Gibraltar Straits to Norfolk, VA in
a Navy destroyer.  The seas were kicking some 12-15 feet, winds about
45 knots, visibility good at about 5 miles, no precipitation.

Of course, aboard a US Navy ship, "proper" lookouts are posted (we
had five posted) with sound powered 'phones connected to the bridge
watch.  The lookouts were spelled every 30 minutes so they wouldn't
get too tired.

CIC (Combat Information Center -- that place you see in the WW II
movies with the dark room and plots of targets on vertical plexiglas
charts and all the radar screens and stuff) sent up information on a
new strong radar contact about 5 miles off our starboard bow, moving
slowly.  The lookouts were alerted.  They saw nothing.  Nobody could
see anything, and a "strong" target would normally indicate a large
ship.  The "skunk" drew closer and closer...

To make a long story short, the radar target closed on the same
bearing, CIC got more and more intense with its warnings, and
finally, as the mystery target came close aboard and no one could see
ANYTING, the CIC Watch Officer (the guy in charge of CIC) scrambled
up to the bridge to see for himself.  Being a sailor, he looked for a
sailboat.  And there WAS ONE!  Right on our starboard beam, 200 feet
away, was a 30 ft. sailboat under bare poles.  We were able to talk
to them (via loud hailer, they didn't have a radio on and didn't
understand international light signals).  They weren't worried about
possible collision (knew we had radar), they were a wooden boat (this
happened in 1965), they had no source of energy for a radar.  We
didn't ask if they had a radar reflector, but I'll bet they did.

This taught me: Use ALL the resources you have on board to determine
the situation around you (Including CIC)!

Thanks for listening...

Bill

Here's a real sea story... It happened one lousy day (daytime) of bad weather in the middle of the Atlantic on our way from the Gibraltar Straits to Norfolk, VA in a Navy destroyer. The seas were kicking some 12-15 feet, winds about 45 knots, visibility good at about 5 miles, no precipitation. Of course, aboard a US Navy ship, "proper" lookouts are posted (we had five posted) with sound powered 'phones connected to the bridge watch. The lookouts were spelled every 30 minutes so they wouldn't get too tired. CIC (Combat Information Center -- that place you see in the WW II movies with the dark room and plots of targets on vertical plexiglas charts and all the radar screens and stuff) sent up information on a new strong radar contact about 5 miles off our starboard bow, moving slowly. The lookouts were alerted. They saw nothing. Nobody could see anything, and a "strong" target would normally indicate a large ship. The "skunk" drew closer and closer... To make a long story short, the radar target closed on the same bearing, CIC got more and more intense with its warnings, and finally, as the mystery target came close aboard and no one could see ANYTING, the CIC Watch Officer (the guy in charge of CIC) scrambled up to the bridge to see for himself. Being a sailor, he looked for a sailboat. And there WAS ONE! Right on our starboard beam, 200 feet away, was a 30 ft. sailboat under bare poles. We were able to talk to them (via loud hailer, they didn't have a radio on and didn't understand international light signals). They weren't worried about possible collision (knew we had radar), they were a wooden boat (this happened in 1965), they had no source of energy for a radar. We didn't ask if they had a radar reflector, but I'll bet they did. This taught me: Use ALL the resources you have on board to determine the situation around you (Including CIC)! Thanks for listening... Bill