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Re: T&T: Dripless shaft seals

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Ownyacht@aol.com
Thu, Feb 7, 2008 6:35 PM

I had PSS put on my last boat with 6-71's. I loved them. One should  probably
budget about twice the estimate because they will undoubtedly find
complications during the installation. They have to have virgin shaft to ride on  for
one thing and that may involve shortening the fiberglass shaft tubes and  they
might even have a problem getting your shafts out of the couplers due  to a
previous grounding or something that would cause them to be jammed a  little
bit. Just beware. It's not a simple as it sounds.

R. Lee

In a message dated 2/7/2008 12:21:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
pascal@sandbarhopper.com writes:

Dripless  seals are pretty good but when they fail, it tends to be
catastrophic.  I had PSS on a previous boat, for 6 years, no issues  though.

With good access to the stuffing boxes, i woudln't re invent  the wheel.
Just switch to GFO packing.. that stuff is really virtually  dripless...

http://www.emarineinc.com/products/gfopacking/packing.html

Pascal
Miami,  fl
70 hatteras 53MY
live helmcam @www.sandbarhopper.com

-----  Original Message -----
From: "Mike Sullivan"  rgrsullivan@gmail.com
To:  trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Thursday, February  07, 2008 11:53 AM
Subject: T&T: Dripless shaft seals

I'm need to change out the shaft packing seals on my boat.  I want to  have
dripless shaft packing installed.  I am looking at PYI  Dripless Seals.
Anyone out there with good or bad experience with this  brand ?

--
Mike and Pat Sullivan
Aboard Irish  Ayes - Gulfstar 44


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I had PSS put on my last boat with 6-71's. I loved them. One should probably budget about twice the estimate because they will undoubtedly find complications during the installation. They have to have virgin shaft to ride on for one thing and that may involve shortening the fiberglass shaft tubes and they might even have a problem getting your shafts out of the couplers due to a previous grounding or something that would cause them to be jammed a little bit. Just beware. It's not a simple as it sounds. R. Lee In a message dated 2/7/2008 12:21:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pascal@sandbarhopper.com writes: Dripless seals are pretty good but when they fail, it tends to be catastrophic. I had PSS on a previous boat, for 6 years, no issues though. With good access to the stuffing boxes, i woudln't re invent the wheel. Just switch to GFO packing.. that stuff is really virtually dripless... http://www.emarineinc.com/products/gfopacking/packing.html Pascal Miami, fl 70 hatteras 53MY live helmcam @www.sandbarhopper.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Sullivan" <rgrsullivan@gmail.com> To: <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:53 AM Subject: T&T: Dripless shaft seals > I'm need to change out the shaft packing seals on my boat. I want to have > dripless shaft packing installed. I am looking at PYI Dripless Seals. > Anyone out there with good or bad experience with this brand ? > > -- > Mike and Pat Sullivan > Aboard Irish Ayes - Gulfstar 44 > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)
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Bruce TeSelle
Thu, Feb 7, 2008 8:29 PM

I have had dripless shaft seals on my last 2 boats over a 15 year period
and have experienced no problems.  In fact I threw a fluke off one wheel at
high speed which in turn bent the shaft and broke the strut.  It was all
quite violent, lotsa vibration and noise plus some huge gouges in the bottom
of the boat.  The shaft seal never leaked a drop.  The seal was not even
replaced as part of the final repair, I felt it proved it's worth to stay
aboard.
The boats had seals of different manufacture.
I can imagine that total failure of this type seal could require a "bigger
is better" b/pump that we have been hashing over, I have 6 of them and lotsa
batteries.

Bruce TeSelle
Captain Hook
54 Blackwell

-----Original Message-----
From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of
Ownyacht@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:35 PM
To: pascal@sandbarhopper.com; trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Subject: Re: T&T: Dripless shaft seals

I had PSS put on my last boat with 6-71's. I loved them. One should
probably budget about twice the estimate because they will undoubtedly find
complications during the installation. They have to have virgin shaft to
ride on  for one thing and that may involve shortening the fiberglass shaft
tubes and  they might even have a problem getting your shafts out of the
couplers due  to a previous grounding or something that would cause them to
be jammed a  little bit. Just beware. It's not a simple as it sounds.

R. Lee

In a message dated 2/7/2008 12:21:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
pascal@sandbarhopper.com writes:

Dripless  seals are pretty good but when they fail, it tends to be
catastrophic.  I had PSS on a previous boat, for 6 years, no issues  though.

With good access to the stuffing boxes, i woudln't re invent  the wheel.
Just switch to GFO packing.. that stuff is really virtually  dripless...

http://www.emarineinc.com/products/gfopacking/packing.html

Pascal
Miami,  fl
70 hatteras 53MY
live helmcam @www.sandbarhopper.com

-----  Original Message -----
From: "Mike Sullivan"  rgrsullivan@gmail.com
To:  trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Thursday, February  07, 2008 11:53 AM
Subject: T&T: Dripless shaft seals

I'm need to change out the shaft packing seals on my boat.  I want to

have

dripless shaft packing installed.  I am looking at PYI  Dripless Seals.
Anyone out there with good or bad experience with this  brand ?

--
Mike and Pat Sullivan
Aboard Irish  Ayes - Gulfstar 44


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I have had dripless shaft seals on my last 2 boats over a 15 year period and have experienced no problems. In fact I threw a fluke off one wheel at high speed which in turn bent the shaft and broke the strut. It was all quite violent, lotsa vibration and noise plus some huge gouges in the bottom of the boat. The shaft seal never leaked a drop. The seal was not even replaced as part of the final repair, I felt it proved it's worth to stay aboard. The boats had seals of different manufacture. I can imagine that total failure of this type seal could require a "bigger is better" b/pump that we have been hashing over, I have 6 of them and lotsa batteries. Bruce TeSelle Captain Hook 54 Blackwell -----Original Message----- From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Ownyacht@aol.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:35 PM To: pascal@sandbarhopper.com; trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com Subject: Re: T&T: Dripless shaft seals I had PSS put on my last boat with 6-71's. I loved them. One should probably budget about twice the estimate because they will undoubtedly find complications during the installation. They have to have virgin shaft to ride on for one thing and that may involve shortening the fiberglass shaft tubes and they might even have a problem getting your shafts out of the couplers due to a previous grounding or something that would cause them to be jammed a little bit. Just beware. It's not a simple as it sounds. R. Lee In a message dated 2/7/2008 12:21:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pascal@sandbarhopper.com writes: Dripless seals are pretty good but when they fail, it tends to be catastrophic. I had PSS on a previous boat, for 6 years, no issues though. With good access to the stuffing boxes, i woudln't re invent the wheel. Just switch to GFO packing.. that stuff is really virtually dripless... http://www.emarineinc.com/products/gfopacking/packing.html Pascal Miami, fl 70 hatteras 53MY live helmcam @www.sandbarhopper.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Sullivan" <rgrsullivan@gmail.com> To: <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:53 AM Subject: T&T: Dripless shaft seals > I'm need to change out the shaft packing seals on my boat. I want to have > dripless shaft packing installed. I am looking at PYI Dripless Seals. > Anyone out there with good or bad experience with this brand ? > > -- > Mike and Pat Sullivan > Aboard Irish Ayes - Gulfstar 44 > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp0030000 00025 48) _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.