I discovered today with one of the online sat trackers (www.n2y0.com/?s=39533) that the new gps is in a 12719 mile orbit above earth. Putting it in a basic gps orbit all ready! There for I must conclude all the frequency drift I've been raving about is merely doppler shift! And not relitivistic gravitional effects! Anyway it looks as if the atomic clock on this new satellite are keeping excellant time. .037ns over 12hrs .011ns over 36hrs .018ns over 48hrs My estimation of the stability would be near 2e-16 ?? Someone else might want to pull out the calculator and check me on this. (to lazy to pull out my own calc. after all the cutting and pasting hehe) My first reception was at 23:32:22pdt gps time error freq-drift date time pdt 4.4716290517e-010,-1.1166002510e-014 @ 02/21/2014 23:32:22 2.7434175598e-010,-5.1373205549e-014 @ 02/22/2014 00:57:22 2.7264644019e-010,-5.1373205549e-014 @ 02/22/2014 00:57:52 2.7202887741e-010,-5.2401886405e-014 @ 02/22/2014 00:58:22 2.7003760573e-010,-5.2401886405e-014 @ 02/22/2014 00:58:52 2.6877996045e-010,-5.2401886405e-014 @ 02/22/2014 00:59:22 2.6416859445e-010,-5.2401886405e-014 @ 02/22/2014 01:00:52 2.5693992947e-010,-5.3422655975e-014 @ 02/22/2014 01:02:52 2.5624543494e-010,-5.3422655975e-014 @ 02/22/2014 01:03:22 2.5421537401e-010,-5.3422655975e-014 @ 02/22/2014 01:03:52 2.4365104104e-010,-5.4384875238e-014 @ 02/22/2014 01:06:52 2.4196987886e-010,-5.5335398671e-014 @ 02/22/2014 01:07:22 2.3208415713e-010,-5.6217685129e-014 @ 02/22/2014 01:10:22 2.3084736806e-010,-5.6217685129e-014 @ 02/22/2014 01:10:52 2.1308972996e-010,-5.7062414147e-014 @ 02/22/2014 01:15:52 2.1229085616e-010,-5.7062414147e-014 @ 02/22/2014 01:16:22 2.1024898532e-010,-5.7873397372e-014 @ 02/22/2014 01:16:52 1.7422816710e-010,-6.0095673013e-014 @ 02/22/2014 01:26:52 1.4985197051e-010,-6.1364392842e-014 @ 02/22/2014 01:33:52 -8.2096225744e-011,-6.4458299267e-014 @ 02/22/2014 02:33:22 -8.7252889686e-011,-6.4458299267e-014 @ 02/22/2014 02:34:52 -8.8348680774e-011,-6.4458299267e-014 @ 02/22/2014 02:35:22 -1.0635115866e-010,-6.3795634899e-014 @ 02/22/2014 02:39:52 -1.0947714477e-010,-6.3795634899e-014 @ 02/22/2014 02:40:52 -1.2733387921e-010,-6.2957112939e-014 @ 02/22/2014 02:45:22 4.1019065602e-010,-2.6931360042e-014 @ 02/22/2014 12:11:52 (beggining reception for this sat pass) omitted about 20 readings here (to lazy to cut an past) 2.8165598456e-010,-5.0887679487e-014 @ 02/22/2014 13:04:22 (ending reception for this sat pass) 4.3603246331e-010,-1.6790847616e-014 02/23/2014 12:07:52 4.3593171822e-010,-1.6790847616e-014 02/23/2014 12:08:22 4.3174004663e-010,-1.8414870662e-014 02/23/2014 12:11:52 4.3034051646e-010,-1.8414870662e-014 02/23/2014 12:13:22 4.2869713019e-010,-2.0026462652e-014 02/23/2014 12:14:22 4.1581271863e-010,-2.4775827210e-014 02/23/2014 12:23:52 4.1281643054e-010,-2.6318389403e-014 02/23/2014 12:25:52 4.0926344797e-010,-2.6318389403e-014 02/23/2014 12:27:52 4.0478960091e-010,-2.7851801947e-014 02/23/2014 12:30:52 3.9935083907e-010,-2.9374723140e-014 02/23/2014 12:33:52 3.9419403312e-010,-3.0861188035e-014 02/23/2014 12:36:22 3.7487843100e-010,-3.5255679669e-014 02/23/2014 12:45:52 3.7015489306e-010,-3.6675906588e-014 02/23/2014 12:47:52 3.6828442183e-010,-3.6675906588e-014 02/23/2014 12:48:52 3.6575238324e-010,-3.8055713095e-014 02/23/2014 12:49:52 3.6331681760e-010,-3.8055713095e-014 02/23/2014 12:50:52 3.6305042761e-010,-3.8055713095e-014 02/23/2014 12:51:22 3.4513124556e-010,-4.0722789453e-014 02/23/2014 12:58:22 3.3345738644e-010 -4.3288038898e-014 02/23/2014 13:02:52 3.3311108214e-010,-4.3288038898e-014 02/23/2014 13:03:22 3.0597744159e-010,-4.6912604687e-014 02/23/2014 13:12:52 2.9199553517e-010,-4.9187274398e-014 02/23/2014 13:17:52 2.8347651083e-010,-5.0266031843e-014 02/23/2014 13:20:52 4.2985792512e-010,-2.0000453659e-014 02/24/2014 00:22:21 3.9619769439e-010,-3.0869905699e-014 02/24/2014 00:43:51 2.7843215833e-010,-5.0366500114e-014 02/24/2014 01:30:51 2.6696754744e-010,-5.1414151121e-014 02/24/2014 01:34:51 2.6696754744e-010,-5.1414151121e-014 02/24/2014 01:34:51 2.5655241979e-010,-5.3399281253e-014 02/24/2014 01:37:51 2.3977925547e-010,-5.4335815090e-014 02/24/2014 01:42:51 1.5593235232e-010,-6.0487530783e-014 02/24/2014 02:06:51 1.3662021621e-010,-6.1631397956e-014 02/24/2014 02:12:21 9.1330613763e-011,-6.3442815183e-014 02/24/2014 02:24:21 7.4941924493e-011,-6.3779697127e-014 02/24/2014 02:28:51 6.8642013947e-011,-6.4078001802e-014 02/24/2014 02:30:21 5.9060884222e-011,-6.4327788430e-014 02/24/2014 02:32:51 -6.6260772297e-011,-6.4416503273e-014 02/24/2014 03:04:51 -7.7866533308e-011,-6.4184273944e-014 02/24/2014 03:07:51 -8.4434374222e-011,-6.3902103552e-014 02/24/2014 03:09:51 -8.7629479398e-011,-6.3902103552e-014 02/24/2014 03:10:21 -9.4044489376e-011,-6.3584269685e-014 02/24/2014 03:12:21 -1.0854253579e-010,-6.3219713481e-014 02/24/2014 03:15:51 Happy time keeping to all; Tom