Hi Aron, I'm trying to figure out what the proper form of the namespace is in cspace refnames. Maybe you can help me here? On the page http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/RefName the example shows org.collectionspace.demo On the page http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Imports+Service+Home#ImportsServiceHome-SampleRequests the example shows collectionspace.org On the vocabularies currently in nightly the examples show core.collectionspace.org So which form is correct for a given collectionspace instance and tenant? Thanks, Susan

IIRC, the namespace must match the domain declared for the owning tenant. > -----Original Message----- > From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org > [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf Of > Susan Stone > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 2:50 PM > To: 'Aron D. Roberts'; talk@lists.collectionspace.org > Subject: [Talk] proper namespace in refnames > > Hi Aron, > > I'm trying to figure out what the proper form of the > namespace is in cspace refnames. Maybe you can help me here? > > On the page > http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/RefNam > e the example shows org.collectionspace.demo > > On the page > http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Import > s+Service+Home#ImportsServiceHome-SampleRequests > the example shows collectionspace.org > > On the vocabularies currently in nightly the examples show > core.collectionspace.org > > So which form is correct for a given collectionspace instance > and tenant? > > Thanks, > Susan > > _______________________________________________ > Talk mailing list > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.c > ollectionspace.org >

I had heard that was going to be the case, and that is what the application is doing, but I wanted to make sure. Thank you both. Is that the desired use of the namespace: If you load the Getty vocabularies in a local cspace instance, the refname uses the local namespace, and all the default cspace controlled lists have different namespaces in each cspace instance and aren't distinguishable from local lists? It makes sense from the point of view that you might actually have refnames that referred out. Susan On 11/07/2011 03:16 PM, Patrick Schmitz wrote: > IIRC, the namespace must match the domain declared for the owning tenant. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf Of >> Susan Stone >> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 2:50 PM >> To: 'Aron D. Roberts'; talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> Subject: [Talk] proper namespace in refnames >> >> Hi Aron, >> >> I'm trying to figure out what the proper form of the >> namespace is in cspace refnames. Maybe you can help me here? >> >> On the page >> http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/RefNam >> e the example shows org.collectionspace.demo >> >> On the page >> http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Import >> s+Service+Home#ImportsServiceHome-SampleRequests >> the example shows collectionspace.org >> >> On the vocabularies currently in nightly the examples show >> core.collectionspace.org >> >> So which form is correct for a given collectionspace instance >> and tenant? >> >> Thanks, >> Susan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk mailing list >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.c >> ollectionspace.org >> >

I just now realize I'd written Susan privately, but this discussion was cc'd to the Talk list. Replying publicly ... On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> wrote: > IIRC, the namespace must match the domain declared for the owning tenant. That's my recollection as well. If you create new authority terms via CollectionSpace's services REST APIs, the refNames for your terms will be created automatically. The namespace portion of those refNames will be set to the Internet domain specified for your tenant. If you are creating terms via the Imports service, you'll create the refNames yourself, but you can follow that same convention. You can find the domain specified for your tenant in the tenant-bindings-delta.xml file in your tenant folder, as described here: http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/DOC/Creating+your+new+tenant (see the "Services" section, and particularly step 4 of that section) Susan also asked: > If you load the Getty vocabularies in a local cspace instance, the refname uses the local namespace, and all the default cspace controlled lists have different namespaces in each cspace instance and aren't distinguishable from local lists I don't know if this is germane to your questions, Susan,, but: For an imported vocabulary that should truly be identified under its own namespace, such as one of the Getty vocabularies, you could consider using an Internet domain appropriate to that vocabulary as the namespace, in the refNames for those terms. http://lists.collectionspace.org/pipermail/tech_lists.collectionspace.org/2010-February/000996.html According to Patrick: "The Person service can support multiple namespaces, to separate imported Person-authorities (like Getty's ULAN) from one another and from a local list." Aron P.S. More background on refNames: http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/RefName > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf Of >> Susan Stone >> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 2:50 PM >> To: 'Aron D. Roberts'; talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> Subject: [Talk] proper namespace in refnames >> >> Hi Aron, >> >> I'm trying to figure out what the proper form of the >> namespace is in cspace refnames. Maybe you can help me here? >> >> On the page >> http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/RefNam >> e the example shows org.collectionspace.demo >> >> On the page >> http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Import >> s+Service+Home#ImportsServiceHome-SampleRequests >> the example shows collectionspace.org >> >> On the vocabularies currently in nightly the examples show >> core.collectionspace.org >> >> So which form is correct for a given collectionspace instance >> and tenant? >> >> Thanks, >> Susan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk mailing list >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.c >> ollectionspace.org >> > >

Does Susan already know about the library you built, and that the CARET folks were also using? Patrick > -----Original Message----- > From: aronroberts@gmail.com [mailto:aronroberts@gmail.com] On > Behalf Of Aron Roberts > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 3:46 PM > To: Patrick Schmitz; Susan Stone > Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org > Subject: Re: [Talk] proper namespace in refnames > > I just now realize I'd written Susan privately, but this > discussion was cc'd to the Talk list. Replying publicly ... > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Patrick Schmitz > <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> wrote: > > IIRC, the namespace must match the domain declared for the > owning tenant. > > That's my recollection as well. If you create new > authority terms via CollectionSpace's services REST APIs, the > refNames for your terms will be created automatically. The > namespace portion of those refNames will be set to the > Internet domain specified for your tenant. > > If you are creating terms via the Imports service, you'll > create the refNames yourself, but you can follow that same convention. > > You can find the domain specified for your tenant in the > tenant-bindings-delta.xml file in your tenant folder, as described > here: > > http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/DOC/Creating+your+new+tenant > (see the "Services" section, and particularly step 4 of > that section) > > Susan also asked: > > If you load the Getty vocabularies in a local cspace instance, the > > refname uses the local namespace, and all the default cspace > > controlled lists have different namespaces in each cspace > instance and > > aren't distinguishable from local lists > > I don't know if this is germane to your questions, Susan,, but: > > For an imported vocabulary that should truly be identified > under its own namespace, such as one of the Getty > vocabularies, you could consider using an Internet domain > appropriate to that vocabulary as the namespace, in the > refNames for those terms. > > > http://lists.collectionspace.org/pipermail/tech_lists.collecti > onspace.org/2010-February/000996.html > According to Patrick: "The Person service can support > multiple namespaces, to separate imported Person-authorities > (like Getty's > ULAN) from one another and from a local list." > > Aron > > P.S. More background on refNames: > > http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/RefName > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org > >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf Of Susan > >> Stone > >> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 2:50 PM > >> To: 'Aron D. Roberts'; talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> Subject: [Talk] proper namespace in refnames > >> > >> Hi Aron, > >> > >> I'm trying to figure out what the proper form of the > namespace is in > >> cspace refnames. Maybe you can help me here? > >> > >> On the page > >> http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/RefNam > >> e the example shows org.collectionspace.demo > >> > >> On the page > >> http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Import > >> s+Service+Home#ImportsServiceHome-SampleRequests > >> the example shows collectionspace.org > >> > >> On the vocabularies currently in nightly the examples show > >> core.collectionspace.org > >> > >> So which form is correct for a given collectionspace instance and > >> tenant? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Susan > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Talk mailing list > >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.c > >> ollectionspace.org > >> > > > > >

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> wrote: > Does Susan already know about the library you built, and that the CARET > folks were also using? Patrick *might* be referring here to the common-api library, built by another CollectionSpace services developer, Laramie Crockett. It consists of a set of Java routines that can be called from both CollectionSpace's services and application layers, as well as by any other developer working in Java or another environment that can access Java code. This is a standalone module, and does not have any dependencies on any other part of the CollectionSpace source code. You can find this library here: https://source.collectionspace.org/collection-space/src/services/trunk/services/common-api/ (top level project module) https://source.collectionspace.org/collection-space/src/services/trunk/services/common-api/src/main/java/org/collectionspace/services/common/api/ (Java source) http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/ServicesCommonAPI (overview documentation) The goal of the common-api library is to provide utility routines for commonly-encountered tasks. Included in that library are routines to parse and generate refNames. By calling these routines, rather than writing your own, you're insulated from future changes to the underlying refName data format, which is a Good Thing. Aron > > Patrick > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aronroberts@gmail.com [mailto:aronroberts@gmail.com] On >> Behalf Of Aron Roberts >> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 3:46 PM >> To: Patrick Schmitz; Susan Stone >> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> Subject: Re: [Talk] proper namespace in refnames >> >> I just now realize I'd written Susan privately, but this >> discussion was cc'd to the Talk list.  Replying publicly ... >> >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Patrick Schmitz >> <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> wrote: >> > IIRC, the namespace must match the domain declared for the >> owning tenant. >> >>   That's my recollection as well.  If you create new >> authority terms via CollectionSpace's services REST APIs, the >> refNames for your terms will be created automatically.  The >> namespace portion of those refNames will be set to the >> Internet domain specified for your tenant. >> >>   If you are creating terms via the Imports service, you'll >> create the refNames yourself, but you can follow that same convention. >> >>   You can find the domain specified for your tenant in the >> tenant-bindings-delta.xml file in your tenant folder, as described >> here: >> >>   http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/DOC/Creating+your+new+tenant >>   (see the "Services" section, and particularly step 4 of >> that section) >> >> Susan also asked: >> > If you load the Getty vocabularies in a local cspace instance, the >> > refname uses the local namespace, and all the default cspace >> > controlled lists have different namespaces in each cspace >> instance and >> > aren't distinguishable from local lists >> >>   I don't know if this is germane to your questions, Susan,, but: >> >>   For an imported vocabulary that should truly be identified >> under its own namespace, such as one of the Getty >> vocabularies, you could consider using an Internet domain >> appropriate to that vocabulary as the namespace, in the >> refNames for those terms. >> >> >> http://lists.collectionspace.org/pipermail/tech_lists.collecti >> onspace.org/2010-February/000996.html >>   According to Patrick: "The Person service can support >> multiple namespaces, to separate imported Person-authorities >> (like Getty's >> ULAN) from one another and from a local list." >> >> Aron >> >> P.S. More background on refNames: >> >> http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/RefName >> >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf Of Susan >> >> Stone >> >> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 2:50 PM >> >> To: 'Aron D. Roberts'; talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> Subject: [Talk] proper namespace in refnames >> >> >> >> Hi Aron, >> >> >> >> I'm trying to figure out what the proper form of the >> namespace is in >> >> cspace refnames. Maybe you can help me here? >> >> >> >> On the page >> >> http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/RefNam >> >> e the example shows org.collectionspace.demo >> >> >> >> On the page >> >> http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Import >> >> s+Service+Home#ImportsServiceHome-SampleRequests >> >> the example shows collectionspace.org >> >> >> >> On the vocabularies currently in nightly the examples show >> >> core.collectionspace.org >> >> >> >> So which form is correct for a given collectionspace instance and >> >> tenant? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Susan >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Talk mailing list >> >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.c >> >> ollectionspace.org >> >> >> > >> > >> > >