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Sampling rate in E320 with RFNoC

MM
Maria Muñoz
Tue, May 6, 2025 2:12 PM

Hi all,

We observe different behaviour using the E320 radio with the UHD:
USRP_SOURCE block and the RFNoC Radio block with a low sampling rate.
We are attempting to set the sampling rate to 25 kHz for both blocks. In
the UHD block, we achieve this by configuring the sampling rate to 25 kHz.
Similarly, in the RFNoC block, we set the sampling rate of the RFNoC radio
block to 25 kHz and the output rate of the DDC to 25 kHz.
When we look at the output of the blocks, we effectively observe a signal
of 25 kHz in the UHD block, while in the RFNoC radio block, we observe a
larger bandwidth of approximately 250 kHz.
How can we correctly configure both the Radio and DDC blocks in RFNoC to
have an output of 25 KHz? Is it possible?

Kind Regards,

Maria

Hi all, We observe different behaviour using the E320 radio with the UHD: USRP_SOURCE block and the RFNoC Radio block with a low sampling rate. We are attempting to set the sampling rate to 25 kHz for both blocks. In the UHD block, we achieve this by configuring the sampling rate to 25 kHz. Similarly, in the RFNoC block, we set the sampling rate of the RFNoC radio block to 25 kHz and the output rate of the DDC to 25 kHz. When we look at the output of the blocks, we effectively observe a signal of 25 kHz in the UHD block, while in the RFNoC radio block, we observe a larger bandwidth of approximately 250 kHz. How can we correctly configure both the Radio and DDC blocks in RFNoC to have an output of 25 KHz? Is it possible? Kind Regards, Maria
MD
Marcus D. Leech
Tue, May 6, 2025 10:04 PM

On 06/05/2025 10:12, Maria Muñoz wrote:

Hi all,

We observe different behaviour using the E320 radio with the UHD:
USRP_SOURCE block and the RFNoC Radio block with a low sampling rate.
We are attempting to set the sampling rate to 25 kHz for both blocks.
In the UHD block, we achieve this by configuring the sampling rate to
25 kHz. Similarly, in the RFNoC block, we set the sampling rate of the
RFNoC radio block to 25 kHz and the output rate of the DDC to 25 kHz.
When we look at the output of the blocks, we effectively observe a
signal of 25 kHz in the UHD block, while in the RFNoC radio block, we
observe a larger bandwidth of approximately 250 kHz.
How can we correctly configure both the Radio and DDC blocks in RFNoC
to have an output of 25 KHz? Is it possible?

Kind Regards,

Maria


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Since the lowest master clock rate in the E320 is 250kHz, a POSSIBLE
configuration is to run the radio at that master-clock,
  and the DDC block with an appropriate decimation factor.

What you might be able to do is to run your ordinary "multi_usrp" UHD
code with the logging level turned up, so that it
  might tell how it is configuring the RFNoC blocks inside the
radio.  Remember it has been the case for quite some time
  that multi-usrp now lives ON TOP of RFNoC, and simply configures
RFNoC blocks in the USRP hardware appropriately.

https://kb.ettus.com/The_UHD_logging_facility

On 06/05/2025 10:12, Maria Muñoz wrote: > Hi all, > > We observe different behaviour using the E320 radio with the UHD: > USRP_SOURCE block and the RFNoC Radio block with a low sampling rate. > We are attempting to set the sampling rate to 25 kHz for both blocks. > In the UHD block, we achieve this by configuring the sampling rate to > 25 kHz. Similarly, in the RFNoC block, we set the sampling rate of the > RFNoC radio block to 25 kHz and the output rate of the DDC to 25 kHz. > When we look at the output of the blocks, we effectively observe a > signal of 25 kHz in the UHD block, while in the RFNoC radio block, we > observe a larger bandwidth of approximately 250 kHz. > How can we correctly configure both the Radio and DDC blocks in RFNoC > to have an output of 25 KHz? Is it possible? > > Kind Regards, > > Maria > > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list -- usrp-users@lists.ettus.com > To unsubscribe send an email to usrp-users-leave@lists.ettus.com Since the lowest master clock rate in the E320 is 250kHz, a *POSSIBLE* configuration is to run the radio at that master-clock,   and the DDC block with an appropriate decimation factor. What you might be able to do is to run your ordinary "multi_usrp" UHD code with the logging level turned up, so that it   *might* tell how it is configuring the RFNoC blocks inside the radio.  Remember it has been the case for quite some time   that multi-usrp now lives *ON TOP* of RFNoC, and simply configures RFNoC blocks in the USRP hardware appropriately. https://kb.ettus.com/The_UHD_logging_facility
MB
Martin Braun
Wed, May 7, 2025 12:37 PM

This is correct! The simplest way for you to deal with this is to set the
RFNoC Radio Block rate to something larger (like 10 Msps), and the output
rate of the DDC to 25 kHz. RFNoC will take care of configuring the
resampling accordingly.

--M

On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 12:05 AM Marcus D. Leech patchvonbraun@gmail.com
wrote:

On 06/05/2025 10:12, Maria Muñoz wrote:

Hi all,

We observe different behaviour using the E320 radio with the UHD:
USRP_SOURCE block and the RFNoC Radio block with a low sampling rate.
We are attempting to set the sampling rate to 25 kHz for both blocks.
In the UHD block, we achieve this by configuring the sampling rate to
25 kHz. Similarly, in the RFNoC block, we set the sampling rate of the
RFNoC radio block to 25 kHz and the output rate of the DDC to 25 kHz.
When we look at the output of the blocks, we effectively observe a
signal of 25 kHz in the UHD block, while in the RFNoC radio block, we
observe a larger bandwidth of approximately 250 kHz.
How can we correctly configure both the Radio and DDC blocks in RFNoC
to have an output of 25 KHz? Is it possible?

Kind Regards,

Maria


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Since the lowest master clock rate in the E320 is 250kHz, a POSSIBLE
configuration is to run the radio at that master-clock,
and the DDC block with an appropriate decimation factor.

What you might be able to do is to run your ordinary "multi_usrp" UHD
code with the logging level turned up, so that it
might tell how it is configuring the RFNoC blocks inside the
radio.  Remember it has been the case for quite some time
that multi-usrp now lives ON TOP of RFNoC, and simply configures
RFNoC blocks in the USRP hardware appropriately.

https://kb.ettus.com/The_UHD_logging_facility


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This is correct! The simplest way for you to deal with this is to set the RFNoC Radio Block rate to something larger (like 10 Msps), and the output rate of the DDC to 25 kHz. RFNoC will take care of configuring the resampling accordingly. --M On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 12:05 AM Marcus D. Leech <patchvonbraun@gmail.com> wrote: > On 06/05/2025 10:12, Maria Muñoz wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > We observe different behaviour using the E320 radio with the UHD: > > USRP_SOURCE block and the RFNoC Radio block with a low sampling rate. > > We are attempting to set the sampling rate to 25 kHz for both blocks. > > In the UHD block, we achieve this by configuring the sampling rate to > > 25 kHz. Similarly, in the RFNoC block, we set the sampling rate of the > > RFNoC radio block to 25 kHz and the output rate of the DDC to 25 kHz. > > When we look at the output of the blocks, we effectively observe a > > signal of 25 kHz in the UHD block, while in the RFNoC radio block, we > > observe a larger bandwidth of approximately 250 kHz. > > How can we correctly configure both the Radio and DDC blocks in RFNoC > > to have an output of 25 KHz? Is it possible? > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Maria > > > > _______________________________________________ > > USRP-users mailing list -- usrp-users@lists.ettus.com > > To unsubscribe send an email to usrp-users-leave@lists.ettus.com > Since the lowest master clock rate in the E320 is 250kHz, a *POSSIBLE* > configuration is to run the radio at that master-clock, > and the DDC block with an appropriate decimation factor. > > What you might be able to do is to run your ordinary "multi_usrp" UHD > code with the logging level turned up, so that it > *might* tell how it is configuring the RFNoC blocks inside the > radio. Remember it has been the case for quite some time > that multi-usrp now lives *ON TOP* of RFNoC, and simply configures > RFNoC blocks in the USRP hardware appropriately. > > https://kb.ettus.com/The_UHD_logging_facility > > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list -- usrp-users@lists.ettus.com > To unsubscribe send an email to usrp-users-leave@lists.ettus.com >