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Shelia Cotten

Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:10 PM

Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester, I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues with this. We had planned to use our social networks to disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people, post on listservs, and tweet it.

Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from each one.

Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a summary of the responses.

Shelia

Shelia R. Cotten, PhD
Associate Professor
Department of Sociology
UAB
205-934-8678
cotten@uab.edu

Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester, I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues with this. We had planned to use our social networks to disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people, post on listservs, and tweet it. Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from each one. Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a summary of the responses. Shelia ******************************************* Shelia R. Cotten, PhD Associate Professor Department of Sociology UAB 205-934-8678 cotten@uab.edu

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dimaggio

Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:25 PM

This is a really important issue. I am getting the impression that
most IRBs are clueless about research using new media. There are times
when this makes life easy for researchers, but also times (like this
one) when it makes it unnecessarily difficult. It reminds of some of
the problems that ethnographers had with IRBs in the 1980s and 1990s.
Two institutional changes helped at many universities (though I realize
that there are still problems at others). One was insuring that IRBs
included ethnographers so that there was someone present for the
discussions who understood the method, its challenges and established
practice. A second was for IRB committees that included anthropologists
or sociologists who did ethnography to write and discuss policy
statements for dealing with ethnographic research -- essentially
establishing expectations and guidelines. These may be useful
longer-run strategies -- i.e. lobbying appointing authorities to include
scholars who do web-based research on IRBs and then producing guidelines
for evaluation of web-based projects -- for us as well. In the short
run, I wonder if CITASA might consider drafting a document that could
be useful to IRBs looking for guidance in this area?

On 9/26/2011 10:10 AM, Shelia Cotten wrote:

Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester, I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues with this. We had planned to use our social networks to disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people, post on listservs, and tweet it.

Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from each one.

Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a summary of the responses.

Shelia

Shelia R. Cotten, PhD
Associate Professor
Department of Sociology
UAB
205-934-8678
cotten@uab.edu

CITASA mailing list
CITASA@list.citasa.org
http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org

This is a really important issue. I am getting the impression that most IRBs are clueless about research using new media. There are times when this makes life easy for researchers, but also times (like this one) when it makes it unnecessarily difficult. It reminds of some of the problems that ethnographers had with IRBs in the 1980s and 1990s. Two institutional changes helped at many universities (though I realize that there are still problems at others). One was insuring that IRBs included ethnographers so that there was someone present for the discussions who understood the method, its challenges and established practice. A second was for IRB committees that included anthropologists or sociologists who did ethnography to write and discuss policy statements for dealing with ethnographic research -- essentially establishing expectations and guidelines. These may be useful longer-run strategies -- i.e. lobbying appointing authorities to include scholars who do web-based research on IRBs and then producing guidelines for evaluation of web-based projects -- for us as well. In the short run, I wonder if CITASA might consider drafting a document that could be useful to IRBs looking for guidance in this area? On 9/26/2011 10:10 AM, Shelia Cotten wrote: > Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester, I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues with this. We had planned to use our social networks to disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people, post on listservs, and tweet it. > > Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from each one. > > Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue? > > Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a summary of the responses. > > Shelia > ******************************************* > Shelia R. Cotten, PhD > Associate Professor > Department of Sociology > UAB > 205-934-8678 > cotten@uab.edu > _______________________________________________ > CITASA mailing list > CITASA@list.citasa.org > http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org

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Mary L. Gray

Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:37 PM

hey all,

the Association of Internet Researchers (www.aoir.org) has an extensive lit review/bib of the relevant stuff on the relationship between IRB policies and new media research. There are a few folks (including myself) who are looking at the role IRBs play in shifting methodological and analytical frameworks when it comes to qualitative human subjects research (I focus on the intersections of digital media and "vulnerable subjects" like LGBT-identifying youth...I'd be happy to send those interested a piece about that).

But, beyond Paul DiMaggio's call for a CITASA statement, I hope that ASA (like the American Anthro Association) will submit comments to the OHRP (the folks currently soliciting input on revisions of the federal guidelines). Anthropologists and sociologists need to use the full weight of their/our disciplinary associations if ethnographers stand any chance of intervening in what's increasingly a regulatory infrastructure for patentable research (primarily in the biomedical and engineering sciences) rather than an ethics review for humanistic social sciences.

Best,
mary

On sabbatical until January 9, 2012

Mary L. Gray, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Communication and Culture
Affiliate Faculty, Gender Studies
Adjunct Faculty, American Studies
Adjunct Faculty, Anthropology
Indiana University
800 E. 3rd Street
Bloomington, IN 47405

Email: mLg@indiana.edu
URL: www.indiana.edu/~qcentral
Phone: 812-855-4379
Fax: 812-855-6014

BLOG for "Out in the Country, Youth, Media, and Queer Visibility in Rural America" (NYU Press 2009)
@ http://queercountry.fromthesquare.org/

On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:25 AM, dimaggio wrote:

This is a really important issue. I am getting the impression that most IRBs are clueless about research using new media. There are times when this makes life easy for researchers, but also times (like this one) when it makes it unnecessarily difficult. It reminds of some of the problems that ethnographers had with IRBs in the 1980s and 1990s. Two institutional changes helped at many universities (though I realize that there are still problems at others). One was insuring that IRBs included ethnographers so that there was someone present for the discussions who understood the method, its challenges and established practice. A second was for IRB committees that included anthropologists or sociologists who did ethnography to write and discuss policy statements for dealing with ethnographic research -- essentially establishing expectations and guidelines. These may be useful longer-run strategies -- i.e. lobbying appointing authorities to include scholars who do web-based research on IRBs and then producing guidelines for evaluation of web-based projects -- for us as well. In the short run, I wonder if CITASA might consider drafting a document that could be useful to IRBs looking for guidance in this area?

On 9/26/2011 10:10 AM, Shelia Cotten wrote:

Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester, I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues with this. We had planned to use our social networks to disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people, post on listservs, and tweet it.

Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from each one.

Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a summary of the responses.

Shelia

Shelia R. Cotten, PhD
Associate Professor
Department of Sociology
UAB
205-934-8678
cotten@uab.edu

CITASA mailing list
CITASA@list.citasa.org
http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org

hey all, the Association of Internet Researchers (www.aoir.org) has an extensive lit review/bib of the relevant stuff on the relationship between IRB policies and new media research. There are a few folks (including myself) who are looking at the role IRBs play in shifting methodological and analytical frameworks when it comes to qualitative human subjects research (I focus on the intersections of digital media and "vulnerable subjects" like LGBT-identifying youth...I'd be happy to send those interested a piece about that). But, beyond Paul DiMaggio's call for a CITASA statement, I hope that ASA (like the American Anthro Association) will submit comments to the OHRP (the folks currently soliciting input on revisions of the federal guidelines). Anthropologists and sociologists need to use the full weight of their/our disciplinary associations if ethnographers stand any chance of intervening in what's increasingly a regulatory infrastructure for patentable research (primarily in the biomedical and engineering sciences) rather than an ethics review for humanistic social sciences. Best, mary _______________________ On sabbatical until January 9, 2012 Mary L. Gray, Ph.D. Associate Professor Communication and Culture Affiliate Faculty, Gender Studies Adjunct Faculty, American Studies Adjunct Faculty, Anthropology Indiana University 800 E. 3rd Street Bloomington, IN 47405 Email: mLg@indiana.edu URL: www.indiana.edu/~qcentral Phone: 812-855-4379 Fax: 812-855-6014 BLOG for "Out in the Country, Youth, Media, and Queer Visibility in Rural America" (NYU Press 2009) @ http://queercountry.fromthesquare.org/ On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:25 AM, dimaggio wrote: > This is a really important issue. I am getting the impression that most IRBs are clueless about research using new media. There are times when this makes life easy for researchers, but also times (like this one) when it makes it unnecessarily difficult. It reminds of some of the problems that ethnographers had with IRBs in the 1980s and 1990s. Two institutional changes helped at many universities (though I realize that there are still problems at others). One was insuring that IRBs included ethnographers so that there was someone present for the discussions who understood the method, its challenges and established practice. A second was for IRB committees that included anthropologists or sociologists who did ethnography to write and discuss policy statements for dealing with ethnographic research -- essentially establishing expectations and guidelines. These may be useful longer-run strategies -- i.e. lobbying appointing authorities to include scholars who do web-based research on IRBs and then producing guidelines for evaluation of web-based projects -- for us as well. In the short run, I wonder if CITASA might consider drafting a document that could be useful to IRBs looking for guidance in this area? > > On 9/26/2011 10:10 AM, Shelia Cotten wrote: >> Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester, I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues with this. We had planned to use our social networks to disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people, post on listservs, and tweet it. >> >> Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from each one. >> >> Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue? >> >> Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a summary of the responses. >> >> Shelia >> ******************************************* >> Shelia R. Cotten, PhD >> Associate Professor >> Department of Sociology >> UAB >> 205-934-8678 >> cotten@uab.edu >> _______________________________________________ >> CITASA mailing list >> CITASA@list.citasa.org >> http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org > > > _______________________________________________ > CITASA mailing list > CITASA@list.citasa.org > http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org

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Andrew A. Beveridge

Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:40 PM

You may or may not know this, but the so-called "common rule" is being
revised and comments are due by mid-October. I will send info in, but
the very nature of IRB's who have unreviewed power to cause serious
issues with many research projects, needs to be scaled way, way back.

Andy

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Mary L. Gray mlg@indiana.edu wrote:

hey all,

the Association of Internet Researchers (www.aoir.org) has an extensive lit review/bib of the relevant stuff on the relationship between IRB policies and new media research. There are a few folks (including myself) who are looking at the role IRBs play in shifting methodological and analytical frameworks when it comes to qualitative human subjects research (I focus on the intersections of digital media and "vulnerable subjects" like LGBT-identifying youth...I'd be happy to send those interested a piece about that).

But, beyond Paul DiMaggio's call for a CITASA statement, I hope that ASA (like the American Anthro Association) will submit comments to the OHRP (the folks currently soliciting input on revisions of the federal guidelines). Anthropologists and sociologists need to use the full weight of their/our disciplinary associations if ethnographers stand any chance of intervening in what's increasingly a regulatory infrastructure for patentable research (primarily in the biomedical and engineering sciences) rather than an ethics review for humanistic social sciences.

Best,
mary

On sabbatical until January 9, 2012

Mary L. Gray, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Communication and Culture
Affiliate Faculty, Gender Studies
Adjunct Faculty, American Studies
Adjunct Faculty, Anthropology
Indiana University
800 E. 3rd Street
Bloomington, IN 47405

Email: mLg@indiana.edu
URL: www.indiana.edu/~qcentral
Phone: 812-855-4379
Fax: 812-855-6014

BLOG for "Out in the Country, Youth, Media, and Queer Visibility in Rural America" (NYU Press 2009)
@ http://queercountry.fromthesquare.org/

On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:25 AM, dimaggio wrote:

This is a really important issue. I am getting the impression that most IRBs are clueless about research using new media. There are times when this makes life easy for researchers, but also times (like this one) when it makes it unnecessarily difficult. It reminds of some of the problems that ethnographers had with IRBs in the 1980s and 1990s. Two institutional changes helped at many universities (though I realize that there are still problems at others). One was insuring that IRBs included ethnographers so that there was someone present for the discussions who understood the method, its challenges and established practice. A second was for IRB committees that included anthropologists or sociologists who did ethnography to write and discuss policy statements for dealing with ethnographic research -- essentially establishing expectations and guidelines. These may be useful longer-run strategies -- i.e. lobbying appointing authorities to include scholars who do web-based research on IRBs and then producing guidelines for evaluation of web-based projects -- for us as well. In the short run, I wonder if CITASA might consider drafting a document that could be useful to IRBs looking for guidance in this area?

On 9/26/2011 10:10 AM, Shelia Cotten wrote:

Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester, I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues with this. We had planned to use our social networks to disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people, post on listservs, and tweet it.

Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from each one.

Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a summary of the responses.

Shelia

Shelia R. Cotten, PhD
Associate Professor
Department of Sociology
UAB
205-934-8678
cotten@uab.edu

CITASA mailing list
CITASA@list.citasa.org
http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org

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You may or may not know this, but the so-called "common rule" is being revised and comments are due by mid-October. I will send info in, but the very nature of IRB's who have unreviewed power to cause serious issues with many research projects, needs to be scaled way, way back. Andy On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Mary L. Gray <mlg@indiana.edu> wrote: > hey all, > > the Association of Internet Researchers (www.aoir.org) has an extensive lit review/bib of the relevant stuff on the relationship between IRB policies and new media research. There are a few folks (including myself) who are looking at the role IRBs play in shifting methodological and analytical frameworks when it comes to qualitative human subjects research (I focus on the intersections of digital media and "vulnerable subjects" like LGBT-identifying youth...I'd be happy to send those interested a piece about that). > > But, beyond Paul DiMaggio's call for a CITASA statement, I hope that ASA (like the American Anthro Association) will submit comments to the OHRP (the folks currently soliciting input on revisions of the federal guidelines). Anthropologists and sociologists need to use the full weight of their/our disciplinary associations if ethnographers stand any chance of intervening in what's increasingly a regulatory infrastructure for patentable research (primarily in the biomedical and engineering sciences) rather than an ethics review for humanistic social sciences. > > Best, > mary > _______________________ > On sabbatical until January 9, 2012 > > Mary L. Gray, Ph.D. > Associate Professor > Communication and Culture > Affiliate Faculty, Gender Studies > Adjunct Faculty, American Studies > Adjunct Faculty, Anthropology > Indiana University > 800 E. 3rd Street > Bloomington, IN 47405 > > Email: mLg@indiana.edu > URL: www.indiana.edu/~qcentral > Phone: 812-855-4379 > Fax: 812-855-6014 > > > BLOG for "Out in the Country, Youth, Media, and Queer Visibility in Rural America" (NYU Press 2009) > @ http://queercountry.fromthesquare.org/ > > > On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:25 AM, dimaggio wrote: > >> This is a really important issue. I am getting the impression that most IRBs are clueless about research using new media. There are times when this makes life easy for researchers, but also times (like this one) when it makes it unnecessarily difficult. It reminds of some of the problems that ethnographers had with IRBs in the 1980s and 1990s. Two institutional changes helped at many universities (though I realize that there are still problems at others). One was insuring that IRBs included ethnographers so that there was someone present for the discussions who understood the method, its challenges and established practice. A second was for IRB committees that included anthropologists or sociologists who did ethnography to write and discuss policy statements for dealing with ethnographic research -- essentially establishing expectations and guidelines. These may be useful longer-run strategies -- i.e. lobbying appointing authorities to include scholars who do web-based research on IRBs and then producing guidelines for evaluation of web-based projects -- for us as well. In the short run, I wonder if CITASA might consider drafting a document that could be useful to IRBs looking for guidance in this area? >> >> On 9/26/2011 10:10 AM, Shelia Cotten wrote: >>> Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester, I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues with this. We had planned to use our social networks to disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people, post on listservs, and tweet it. >>> >>> Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from each one. >>> >>> Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue? >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a summary of the responses. >>> >>> Shelia >>> ******************************************* >>> Shelia R. Cotten, PhD >>> Associate Professor >>> Department of Sociology >>> UAB >>> 205-934-8678 >>> cotten@uab.edu >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CITASA mailing list >>> CITASA@list.citasa.org >>> http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CITASA mailing list >> CITASA@list.citasa.org >> http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org > > > _______________________________________________ > CITASA mailing list > CITASA@list.citasa.org > http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org > -- President, Social Explorer, Inc 50 Merriam Ave Bronxville, NY 10708 Phone 1-888-636-1118 Mobile 914-522-4487 FAX 1-888-442-1117 andy@socialexplorer.com www.socialexplorer.com Become a fan on Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Social-Explorer/110325499019530 Follow us on Twitter @socialexplorer Prof of Sociology Queens College and Grad Ctr CUNY Chair Queens College Sociology Dept Office: 718-997-2852 Email: andrew.beveridge@qc.cuny.edu 233D Powdermaker Hall 65-30 Kissena Blvd Flushing, NY 11367-1597

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Mary L. Gray

Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:47 PM

Hi all,

Andy, that's what I was trying to communicate below in that reference to OHRP. Here are links to more info on how to submit comments if CITASA members would like to send thoughts and put them on the public record. I was suggesting that Paul's suggestion for a letter from CITASA should be escalated to a call for the ASA to be publicly involved in the revisions (if they aren't already). The AmAnthroAssoc is my primary "home base" so I've been involved there, through our Association's Committee on Ethics. I'm hoping that CITASA might be motivated to make the same moves (as the AAA doesn't have a section like CITASA I fear that concerns about digital media in particular are getting lost in the mix).

best,
Mary

Submit your comments directly to HHS as described at http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/humansubjects/submitanprmcomment.html

Please see http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/humansubjects/anprm2011page.html for complete information regarding the pre-rule, including: access to the ANPRM, FAQs, a table comparing current regulations with the pre-rule changes, the deadline for submitting comments directly to HHS, and much more

On sabbatical until January 9, 2012

Mary L. Gray, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Communication and Culture
Affiliate Faculty, Gender Studies
Adjunct Faculty, American Studies
Adjunct Faculty, Anthropology
Indiana University
800 E. 3rd Street
Bloomington, IN 47405

Email: mLg@indiana.edu
URL: www.indiana.edu/~qcentral
Phone: 812-855-4379
Fax: 812-855-6014

BLOG for "Out in the Country, Youth, Media, and Queer Visibility in Rural America" (NYU Press 2009)
@ http://queercountry.fromthesquare.org/

On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Andrew A. Beveridge wrote:

You may or may not know this, but the so-called "common rule" is being
revised and comments are due by mid-October. I will send info in, but
the very nature of IRB's who have unreviewed power to cause serious
issues with many research projects, needs to be scaled way, way back.

Andy

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Mary L. Gray mlg@indiana.edu wrote:

hey all,

the Association of Internet Researchers (www.aoir.org) has an extensive lit review/bib of the relevant stuff on the relationship between IRB policies and new media research. There are a few folks (including myself) who are looking at the role IRBs play in shifting methodological and analytical frameworks when it comes to qualitative human subjects research (I focus on the intersections of digital media and "vulnerable subjects" like LGBT-identifying youth...I'd be happy to send those interested a piece about that).

But, beyond Paul DiMaggio's call for a CITASA statement, I hope that ASA (like the American Anthro Association) will submit comments to the OHRP (the folks currently soliciting input on revisions of the federal guidelines). Anthropologists and sociologists need to use the full weight of their/our disciplinary associations if ethnographers stand any chance of intervening in what's increasingly a regulatory infrastructure for patentable research (primarily in the biomedical and engineering sciences) rather than an ethics review for humanistic social sciences.

Best,
mary

On sabbatical until January 9, 2012

Mary L. Gray, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Communication and Culture
Affiliate Faculty, Gender Studies
Adjunct Faculty, American Studies
Adjunct Faculty, Anthropology
Indiana University
800 E. 3rd Street
Bloomington, IN 47405

Email: mLg@indiana.edu
URL: www.indiana.edu/~qcentral
Phone: 812-855-4379
Fax: 812-855-6014

BLOG for "Out in the Country, Youth, Media, and Queer Visibility in Rural America" (NYU Press 2009)
@ http://queercountry.fromthesquare.org/

On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:25 AM, dimaggio wrote:

This is a really important issue. I am getting the impression that most IRBs are clueless about research using new media. There are times when this makes life easy for researchers, but also times (like this one) when it makes it unnecessarily difficult. It reminds of some of the problems that ethnographers had with IRBs in the 1980s and 1990s. Two institutional changes helped at many universities (though I realize that there are still problems at others). One was insuring that IRBs included ethnographers so that there was someone present for the discussions who understood the method, its challenges and established practice. A second was for IRB committees that included anthropologists or sociologists who did ethnography to write and discuss policy statements for dealing with ethnographic research -- essentially establishing expectations and guidelines. These may be useful longer-run strategies -- i.e. lobbying appointing authorities to include scholars who do web-based research on IRBs and then producing guidelines for evaluation of web-based projects -- for us as well. In the short run, I wonder if CITASA might consider drafting a document that could be useful to IRBs looking for guidance in this area?

On 9/26/2011 10:10 AM, Shelia Cotten wrote:

Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester, I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues with this. We had planned to use our social networks to disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people, post on listservs, and tweet it.

Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from each one.

Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a summary of the responses.

Shelia

Shelia R. Cotten, PhD
Associate Professor
Department of Sociology
UAB
205-934-8678
cotten@uab.edu

CITASA mailing list
CITASA@list.citasa.org
http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org

--

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Phone 1-888-636-1118
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FAX 1-888-442-1117
andy@socialexplorer.com
www.socialexplorer.com
Become a fan on Facebook!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Social-Explorer/110325499019530
Follow us on Twitter @socialexplorer

Prof of Sociology Queens College and Grad Ctr CUNY
Chair Queens College Sociology Dept
Office: 718-997-2852
Email: andrew.beveridge@qc.cuny.edu
233D Powdermaker Hall
65-30 Kissena Blvd
Flushing, NY 11367-1597

Hi all, Andy, that's what I was trying to communicate below in that reference to OHRP. Here are links to more info on how to submit comments if CITASA members would like to send thoughts and put them on the public record. I was suggesting that Paul's suggestion for a letter from CITASA should be escalated to a call for the ASA to be publicly involved in the revisions (if they aren't already). The AmAnthroAssoc is my primary "home base" so I've been involved there, through our Association's Committee on Ethics. I'm hoping that CITASA might be motivated to make the same moves (as the AAA doesn't have a section like CITASA I fear that concerns about digital media in particular are getting lost in the mix). best, Mary Submit your comments directly to HHS as described at http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/humansubjects/submitanprmcomment.html Please see http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/humansubjects/anprm2011page.html for complete information regarding the pre-rule, including: access to the ANPRM, FAQs, a table comparing current regulations with the pre-rule changes, the deadline for submitting comments directly to HHS, and much more _______________________ On sabbatical until January 9, 2012 Mary L. Gray, Ph.D. Associate Professor Communication and Culture Affiliate Faculty, Gender Studies Adjunct Faculty, American Studies Adjunct Faculty, Anthropology Indiana University 800 E. 3rd Street Bloomington, IN 47405 Email: mLg@indiana.edu URL: www.indiana.edu/~qcentral Phone: 812-855-4379 Fax: 812-855-6014 BLOG for "Out in the Country, Youth, Media, and Queer Visibility in Rural America" (NYU Press 2009) @ http://queercountry.fromthesquare.org/ On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Andrew A. Beveridge wrote: > You may or may not know this, but the so-called "common rule" is being > revised and comments are due by mid-October. I will send info in, but > the very nature of IRB's who have unreviewed power to cause serious > issues with many research projects, needs to be scaled way, way back. > > Andy > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Mary L. Gray <mlg@indiana.edu> wrote: >> hey all, >> >> the Association of Internet Researchers (www.aoir.org) has an extensive lit review/bib of the relevant stuff on the relationship between IRB policies and new media research. There are a few folks (including myself) who are looking at the role IRBs play in shifting methodological and analytical frameworks when it comes to qualitative human subjects research (I focus on the intersections of digital media and "vulnerable subjects" like LGBT-identifying youth...I'd be happy to send those interested a piece about that). >> >> But, beyond Paul DiMaggio's call for a CITASA statement, I hope that ASA (like the American Anthro Association) will submit comments to the OHRP (the folks currently soliciting input on revisions of the federal guidelines). Anthropologists and sociologists need to use the full weight of their/our disciplinary associations if ethnographers stand any chance of intervening in what's increasingly a regulatory infrastructure for patentable research (primarily in the biomedical and engineering sciences) rather than an ethics review for humanistic social sciences. >> >> Best, >> mary >> _______________________ >> On sabbatical until January 9, 2012 >> >> Mary L. Gray, Ph.D. >> Associate Professor >> Communication and Culture >> Affiliate Faculty, Gender Studies >> Adjunct Faculty, American Studies >> Adjunct Faculty, Anthropology >> Indiana University >> 800 E. 3rd Street >> Bloomington, IN 47405 >> >> Email: mLg@indiana.edu >> URL: www.indiana.edu/~qcentral >> Phone: 812-855-4379 >> Fax: 812-855-6014 >> >> >> BLOG for "Out in the Country, Youth, Media, and Queer Visibility in Rural America" (NYU Press 2009) >> @ http://queercountry.fromthesquare.org/ >> >> >> On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:25 AM, dimaggio wrote: >> >>> This is a really important issue. I am getting the impression that most IRBs are clueless about research using new media. There are times when this makes life easy for researchers, but also times (like this one) when it makes it unnecessarily difficult. It reminds of some of the problems that ethnographers had with IRBs in the 1980s and 1990s. Two institutional changes helped at many universities (though I realize that there are still problems at others). One was insuring that IRBs included ethnographers so that there was someone present for the discussions who understood the method, its challenges and established practice. A second was for IRB committees that included anthropologists or sociologists who did ethnography to write and discuss policy statements for dealing with ethnographic research -- essentially establishing expectations and guidelines. These may be useful longer-run strategies -- i.e. lobbying appointing authorities to include scholars who do web-based research on IRBs and then producing guidelines for evaluation of web-based projects -- for us as well. In the short run, I wonder if CITASA might consider drafting a document that could be useful to IRBs looking for guidance in this area? >>> >>> On 9/26/2011 10:10 AM, Shelia Cotten wrote: >>>> Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester, I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues with this. We had planned to use our social networks to disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people, post on listservs, and tweet it. >>>> >>>> Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from each one. >>>> >>>> Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a summary of the responses. >>>> >>>> Shelia >>>> ******************************************* >>>> Shelia R. Cotten, PhD >>>> Associate Professor >>>> Department of Sociology >>>> UAB >>>> 205-934-8678 >>>> cotten@uab.edu >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> CITASA mailing list >>>> CITASA@list.citasa.org >>>> http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CITASA mailing list >>> CITASA@list.citasa.org >>> http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CITASA mailing list >> CITASA@list.citasa.org >> http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org >> > > > > -- > > President, Social Explorer, Inc > 50 Merriam Ave > Bronxville, NY 10708 > Phone 1-888-636-1118 > Mobile 914-522-4487 > FAX 1-888-442-1117 > andy@socialexplorer.com > www.socialexplorer.com > Become a fan on Facebook! > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Social-Explorer/110325499019530 > Follow us on Twitter @socialexplorer > > Prof of Sociology Queens College and Grad Ctr CUNY > Chair Queens College Sociology Dept > Office: 718-997-2852 > Email: andrew.beveridge@qc.cuny.edu > 233D Powdermaker Hall > 65-30 Kissena Blvd > Flushing, NY 11367-1597

CN

Christena Nippert-Eng

Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:51 PM

Hi Shelia, Paul and others --

A week ago, I completed the NIH's on-line IRB training module, "Protecting Human Research Participants," now required of everyone submitting an IRB application at my university.

It was fascinating, and it took me way longer than the two hours they said it would, because I found myself wanting to read every little tidbit, and I took quite extensive notes.

Surprising, how anxious I got at the thought of being quizzed after each module, by the way. :) A nice reminder of the old days -- and that there better be a good reason for me to put my students through this. :)

Anyone can do this training, incidentally, and I highly recommend it.

Not the least because it can give you excellent ammunition for situations like this.

Shelia, there is actually a test point that could help with this. Researchers are required to distribute the costs and benefits of the research as widely as possible. That means one is required to recruit from as broad a population as possible. One scenario in the module, for instance, is a researcher who recruits only from her own class for an experiment that involves repeatedly drawing blood v. a researcher recruiting by also posting notices on bulletin boards around campus and newspapers, etc., and you have to pick which one is the correct choice. Well, it's the latter, because of this basic principle.

One might argue -- I would certainly argue -- that to not use social media to recruit study participants is to not be in compliance with the mandate to recruit from as broad a population as possible, in fulfillment of this basic principle (a direct outcome of the horrendous behavior of concentration camp doctors in WW II and the Tuskagee Syphillis Study, btw.)

You can add a "so there!" after you point this out to your IRB, should you feel so inclined. :)

Best,
C

----- Original Message -----
From: dimaggio
Date: Monday, September 26, 2011 9:28 am
Subject: Re: [CITASA] IRB and social media
To: citasa@list.citasa.org

This is a really important issue. I am getting the impression
that
most IRBs are clueless about research using new media. There
are times
when this makes life easy for researchers, but also times (like
this
one) when it makes it unnecessarily difficult. It reminds of
some of
the problems that ethnographers had with IRBs in the 1980s and
1990s.
Two institutional changes helped at many universities (though I
realize
that there are still problems at others). One was insuring that
IRBs
included ethnographers so that there was someone present for the
discussions who understood the method, its challenges and
established
practice. A second was for IRB committees that included
anthropologists
or sociologists who did ethnography to write and discuss policy
statements for dealing with ethnographic research -- essentially
establishing expectations and guidelines. These may be useful
longer-run strategies -- i.e. lobbying appointing authorities to
include
scholars who do web-based research on IRBs and then producing
guidelines
for evaluation of web-based projects -- for us as well. In
the short
run, I wonder if CITASA might consider drafting a document that
could
be useful to IRBs looking for guidance in this area?

On 9/26/2011 10:10 AM, Shelia Cotten wrote:

Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester,

I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be
disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues
with this. We had planned to use our social networks to
disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological
experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people,
post on listservs, and tweet it.

Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people

basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of
social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get
permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from
each one.

Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to

email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a
summary of the responses.

Shelia

Shelia R. Cotten, PhD
Associate Professor
Department of Sociology
UAB
205-934-8678
cotten@uab.edu

CITASA mailing list
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Associate Professor of Sociology
Chair, Department of Social Sciences, IIT
www.islandsofprivacy.com
http://www.iit.edu/csl/socs/faculty/nippert_christena.shtml
312-567-6812 (office)
312-567-6821 (fax)

Hi Shelia, Paul and others -- A week ago, I completed the NIH's on-line IRB training module, "Protecting Human Research Participants," now required of everyone submitting an IRB application at my university. It was fascinating, and it took me way longer than the two hours they said it would, because I found myself wanting to read every little tidbit, and I took quite extensive notes. Surprising, how anxious I got at the thought of being quizzed after each module, by the way. :) A nice reminder of the old days -- and that there better be a good reason for me to put my students through this. :) Anyone can do this training, incidentally, and I highly recommend it. Not the least because it can give you excellent ammunition for situations like this. Shelia, there is actually a test point that could help with this. Researchers are *required* to distribute the costs and benefits of the research as widely as possible. That means one is *required* to recruit from as broad a population as possible. One scenario in the module, for instance, is a researcher who recruits only from her own class for an experiment that involves repeatedly drawing blood v. a researcher recruiting by also posting notices on bulletin boards around campus and newspapers, etc., and you have to pick which one is the correct choice. Well, it's the latter, because of this basic principle. One might argue -- I would certainly argue -- that to *not* use social media to recruit study participants is to *not* be in compliance with the mandate to recruit from as broad a population as possible, in fulfillment of this basic principle (a direct outcome of the horrendous behavior of concentration camp doctors in WW II and the Tuskagee Syphillis Study, btw.) You can add a "so there!" after you point this out to your IRB, should you feel so inclined. :) Best, C ----- Original Message ----- From: dimaggio Date: Monday, September 26, 2011 9:28 am Subject: Re: [CITASA] IRB and social media To: citasa@list.citasa.org > This is a really important issue. I am getting the impression > that > most IRBs are clueless about research using new media. There > are times > when this makes life easy for researchers, but also times (like > this > one) when it makes it unnecessarily difficult. It reminds of > some of > the problems that ethnographers had with IRBs in the 1980s and > 1990s. > Two institutional changes helped at many universities (though I > realize > that there are still problems at others). One was insuring that > IRBs > included ethnographers so that there was someone present for the > discussions who understood the method, its challenges and > established > practice. A second was for IRB committees that included > anthropologists > or sociologists who did ethnography to write and discuss policy > statements for dealing with ethnographic research -- essentially > establishing expectations and guidelines. These may be useful > longer-run strategies -- i.e. lobbying appointing authorities to > include > scholars who do web-based research on IRBs and then producing > guidelines > for evaluation of web-based projects -- for us as well. In > the short > run, I wonder if CITASA might consider drafting a document that > could > be useful to IRBs looking for guidance in this area? > > On 9/26/2011 10:10 AM, Shelia Cotten wrote: > > Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester, > I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be > disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues > with this. We had planned to use our social networks to > disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological > experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people, > post on listservs, and tweet it. > > > > Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people > basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of > social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get > permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from > each one. > > > > Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue? > > > > Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to > email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a > summary of the responses. > > > > Shelia > > ******************************************* > > Shelia R. Cotten, PhD > > Associate Professor > > Department of Sociology > > UAB > > 205-934-8678 > > cotten@uab.edu > > _______________________________________________ > > CITASA mailing list > > CITASA@list.citasa.org > > http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org > > > _______________________________________________ > CITASA mailing list > CITASA@list.citasa.org > http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org > Christena Nippert-Eng, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Sociology Chair, Department of Social Sciences, IIT www.islandsofprivacy.com http://www.iit.edu/csl/socs/faculty/nippert_christena.shtml 312-567-6812 (office) 312-567-6821 (fax)

AA

Andrew A. Beveridge

Mon, Sep 26, 2011 2:56 PM

The ASA and COSSA are working on this. Basically most social science
will be out of IRB review if the changes as proposed go through. I
can send some materials from CUNY, but the IRB system is now like a
STAR Chamber for research review and is completely out of control.

Andy

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Mary L. Gray mlg@indiana.edu wrote:

Hi all,

Andy, that's what I was trying to communicate below in that reference to OHRP. Here are links to more info on how to submit comments if CITASA members would like to send thoughts and put them on the public record. I was suggesting that Paul's suggestion for a letter from CITASA should be escalated to a call for the ASA to be publicly involved in the revisions (if they aren't already). The AmAnthroAssoc is my primary "home base" so I've been involved there, through our Association's Committee on Ethics. I'm hoping that CITASA might be motivated to make the same moves (as the AAA doesn't have a section like CITASA I fear that concerns about digital media in particular are getting lost in the mix).

best,
Mary

Submit your comments directly to HHS as described at http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/humansubjects/submitanprmcomment.html

Please see http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/humansubjects/anprm2011page.html for complete information regarding the pre-rule, including: access to the ANPRM, FAQs, a table comparing current regulations with the pre-rule changes, the deadline for submitting comments directly to HHS, and much more

On sabbatical until January 9, 2012

Mary L. Gray, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Communication and Culture
Affiliate Faculty, Gender Studies
Adjunct Faculty, American Studies
Adjunct Faculty, Anthropology
Indiana University
800 E. 3rd Street
Bloomington, IN 47405

Email: mLg@indiana.edu
URL: www.indiana.edu/~qcentral
Phone: 812-855-4379
Fax: 812-855-6014

BLOG for "Out in the Country, Youth, Media, and Queer Visibility in Rural America" (NYU Press 2009)
@ http://queercountry.fromthesquare.org/

On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Andrew A. Beveridge wrote:

You may or may not know this, but the so-called "common rule" is being
revised and comments are due by mid-October. I will send info in, but
the very nature of IRB's who have unreviewed power to cause serious
issues with many research projects, needs to be scaled way, way back.

Andy

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Mary L. Gray mlg@indiana.edu wrote:

hey all,

the Association of Internet Researchers (www.aoir.org) has an extensive lit review/bib of the relevant stuff on the relationship between IRB policies and new media research. There are a few folks (including myself) who are looking at the role IRBs play in shifting methodological and analytical frameworks when it comes to qualitative human subjects research (I focus on the intersections of digital media and "vulnerable subjects" like LGBT-identifying youth...I'd be happy to send those interested a piece about that).

But, beyond Paul DiMaggio's call for a CITASA statement, I hope that ASA (like the American Anthro Association) will submit comments to the OHRP (the folks currently soliciting input on revisions of the federal guidelines). Anthropologists and sociologists need to use the full weight of their/our disciplinary associations if ethnographers stand any chance of intervening in what's increasingly a regulatory infrastructure for patentable research (primarily in the biomedical and engineering sciences) rather than an ethics review for humanistic social sciences.

Best,
mary

On sabbatical until January 9, 2012

Mary L. Gray, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Communication and Culture
Affiliate Faculty, Gender Studies
Adjunct Faculty, American Studies
Adjunct Faculty, Anthropology
Indiana University
800 E. 3rd Street
Bloomington, IN 47405

Email: mLg@indiana.edu
URL: www.indiana.edu/~qcentral
Phone: 812-855-4379
Fax: 812-855-6014

BLOG for "Out in the Country, Youth, Media, and Queer Visibility in Rural America" (NYU Press 2009)
@ http://queercountry.fromthesquare.org/

On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:25 AM, dimaggio wrote:

This is a really important issue. I am getting the impression that most IRBs are clueless about research using new media. There are times when this makes life easy for researchers, but also times (like this one) when it makes it unnecessarily difficult. It reminds of some of the problems that ethnographers had with IRBs in the 1980s and 1990s. Two institutional changes helped at many universities (though I realize that there are still problems at others). One was insuring that IRBs included ethnographers so that there was someone present for the discussions who understood the method, its challenges and established practice. A second was for IRB committees that included anthropologists or sociologists who did ethnography to write and discuss policy statements for dealing with ethnographic research -- essentially establishing expectations and guidelines. These may be useful longer-run strategies -- i.e. lobbying appointing authorities to include scholars who do web-based research on IRBs and then producing guidelines for evaluation of web-based projects -- for us as well. In the short run, I wonder if CITASA might consider drafting a document that could be useful to IRBs looking for guidance in this area?

On 9/26/2011 10:10 AM, Shelia Cotten wrote:

Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester, I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues with this. We had planned to use our social networks to disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people, post on listservs, and tweet it.

Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from each one.

Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a summary of the responses.

Shelia

Shelia R. Cotten, PhD
Associate Professor
Department of Sociology
UAB
205-934-8678
cotten@uab.edu

CITASA mailing list
CITASA@list.citasa.org
http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org

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Chair Queens College Sociology Dept
Office: 718-997-2852
Email: andrew.beveridge@qc.cuny.edu
233D Powdermaker Hall
65-30 Kissena Blvd
Flushing, NY 11367-1597

The ASA and COSSA are working on this. Basically most social science will be out of IRB review if the changes as proposed go through. I can send some materials from CUNY, but the IRB system is now like a STAR Chamber for research review and is completely out of control. Andy On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Mary L. Gray <mlg@indiana.edu> wrote: > Hi all, > > Andy, that's what I was trying to communicate below in that reference to OHRP. Here are links to more info on how to submit comments if CITASA members would like to send thoughts and put them on the public record. I was suggesting that Paul's suggestion for a letter from CITASA should be escalated to a call for the ASA to be publicly involved in the revisions (if they aren't already). The AmAnthroAssoc is my primary "home base" so I've been involved there, through our Association's Committee on Ethics. I'm hoping that CITASA might be motivated to make the same moves (as the AAA doesn't have a section like CITASA I fear that concerns about digital media in particular are getting lost in the mix). > > best, > Mary > > Submit your comments directly to HHS as described at http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/humansubjects/submitanprmcomment.html > > Please see http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/humansubjects/anprm2011page.html for complete information regarding the pre-rule, including: access to the ANPRM, FAQs, a table comparing current regulations with the pre-rule changes, the deadline for submitting comments directly to HHS, and much more > _______________________ > On sabbatical until January 9, 2012 > > Mary L. Gray, Ph.D. > Associate Professor > Communication and Culture > Affiliate Faculty, Gender Studies > Adjunct Faculty, American Studies > Adjunct Faculty, Anthropology > Indiana University > 800 E. 3rd Street > Bloomington, IN 47405 > > Email: mLg@indiana.edu > URL: www.indiana.edu/~qcentral > Phone: 812-855-4379 > Fax: 812-855-6014 > > > BLOG for "Out in the Country, Youth, Media, and Queer Visibility in Rural America" (NYU Press 2009) > @ http://queercountry.fromthesquare.org/ > > > On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Andrew A. Beveridge wrote: > >> You may or may not know this, but the so-called "common rule" is being >> revised and comments are due by mid-October. I will send info in, but >> the very nature of IRB's who have unreviewed power to cause serious >> issues with many research projects, needs to be scaled way, way back. >> >> Andy >> >> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Mary L. Gray <mlg@indiana.edu> wrote: >>> hey all, >>> >>> the Association of Internet Researchers (www.aoir.org) has an extensive lit review/bib of the relevant stuff on the relationship between IRB policies and new media research. There are a few folks (including myself) who are looking at the role IRBs play in shifting methodological and analytical frameworks when it comes to qualitative human subjects research (I focus on the intersections of digital media and "vulnerable subjects" like LGBT-identifying youth...I'd be happy to send those interested a piece about that). >>> >>> But, beyond Paul DiMaggio's call for a CITASA statement, I hope that ASA (like the American Anthro Association) will submit comments to the OHRP (the folks currently soliciting input on revisions of the federal guidelines). Anthropologists and sociologists need to use the full weight of their/our disciplinary associations if ethnographers stand any chance of intervening in what's increasingly a regulatory infrastructure for patentable research (primarily in the biomedical and engineering sciences) rather than an ethics review for humanistic social sciences. >>> >>> Best, >>> mary >>> _______________________ >>> On sabbatical until January 9, 2012 >>> >>> Mary L. Gray, Ph.D. >>> Associate Professor >>> Communication and Culture >>> Affiliate Faculty, Gender Studies >>> Adjunct Faculty, American Studies >>> Adjunct Faculty, Anthropology >>> Indiana University >>> 800 E. 3rd Street >>> Bloomington, IN 47405 >>> >>> Email: mLg@indiana.edu >>> URL: www.indiana.edu/~qcentral >>> Phone: 812-855-4379 >>> Fax: 812-855-6014 >>> >>> >>> BLOG for "Out in the Country, Youth, Media, and Queer Visibility in Rural America" (NYU Press 2009) >>> @ http://queercountry.fromthesquare.org/ >>> >>> >>> On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:25 AM, dimaggio wrote: >>> >>>> This is a really important issue. I am getting the impression that most IRBs are clueless about research using new media. There are times when this makes life easy for researchers, but also times (like this one) when it makes it unnecessarily difficult. It reminds of some of the problems that ethnographers had with IRBs in the 1980s and 1990s. Two institutional changes helped at many universities (though I realize that there are still problems at others). One was insuring that IRBs included ethnographers so that there was someone present for the discussions who understood the method, its challenges and established practice. A second was for IRB committees that included anthropologists or sociologists who did ethnography to write and discuss policy statements for dealing with ethnographic research -- essentially establishing expectations and guidelines. These may be useful longer-run strategies -- i.e. lobbying appointing authorities to include scholars who do web-based research on IRBs and then producing guidelines for evaluation of web-based projects -- for us as well. In the short run, I wonder if CITASA might consider drafting a document that could be useful to IRBs looking for guidance in this area? >>>> >>>> On 9/26/2011 10:10 AM, Shelia Cotten wrote: >>>>> Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester, I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues with this. We had planned to use our social networks to disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people, post on listservs, and tweet it. >>>>> >>>>> Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from each one. >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a summary of the responses. >>>>> >>>>> Shelia >>>>> ******************************************* >>>>> Shelia R. 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Steinhart, Frank

Mon, Sep 26, 2011 3:44 PM

I'm not sure that I saw an answer to this in the thread, amidst the outrage.

What reasoning did the IRB give for denying the application? Or did they simply say "no?"

       Frank A. Steinhart
      Department of Sociology
      North Park University
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      Chicago, IL 60625
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Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester, I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues with this. We had planned to use our social networks to disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people, post on listservs, and tweet it.

Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from each one.

Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a summary of the responses.

Shelia

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I'm not sure that I saw an answer to this in the thread, amidst the outrage. What reasoning did the IRB give for denying the application? Or did they simply say "no?" Frank A. Steinhart Department of Sociology North Park University 3225 W. Foster Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 773.244.5591 fsteinhart@northpark.edu -----Original Message----- From: citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org [mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org] On Behalf Of Shelia Cotten Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 9:10 AM To: CITASA List Subject: [CITASA] IRB and social media Hi everyone. For my grad Survey Research course this semester, I'm planning to have my students do a web-based survey to be disseminated via social media. My IRB is giving us major issues with this. We had planned to use our social networks to disseminate the survey (in part this is a methodological experiment too) - so post on our Facebook walls, email people, post on listservs, and tweet it. Our IRB doesn't want us to do anything other than email people basically. This seems so archaic given the proliferation of social media. If we are to use listservs, we have to get permission from each one and provide a letter to the IRB from each one. Thoughts, suggestions, etc. for helping us deal with this issue? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide! If you want to email me directly at cotten@uab.edu, I will be glad to post a summary of the responses. Shelia ******************************************* Shelia R. Cotten, PhD Associate Professor Department of Sociology UAB 205-934-8678 cotten@uab.edu _______________________________________________ CITASA mailing list CITASA@list.citasa.org http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org

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Andrew A. Beveridge

Tue, Sep 27, 2011 10:53 AM

I don't think people realize that the IRB decision are completely
unreviewed and arbitrary. I am going to circulate a letter from one
of my colleagues.

But they have absolute power over research with no review process.

Andy

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Steinhart, Frank
fsteinhart@northpark.edu wrote: