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Seeking input on generators

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Ed
Sat, May 12, 2012 12:11 AM

Does the 3000 have the eco throttle? That will control output/noise based
on amp draw.

What is the noise level of the 3000 compared to a 2000?

Our 2000 is noisier than we expected when at full throttle. But much
quieter than most small generators.
perhaps the 3000 on eco throttle would be quieter than 2 2000's running
full and with the eco throttle might not burn any more gas. Can you get a
demo run of both?

--
*Ed *

Does the 3000 have the eco throttle? That will control output/noise based on amp draw. What is the noise level of the 3000 compared to a 2000? Our 2000 is noisier than we expected when at full throttle. But much quieter than most small generators. perhaps the 3000 on eco throttle would be quieter than 2 2000's running full and with the eco throttle might not burn any more gas. Can you get a demo run of both? -- *Ed *
FT
Frank Timpano
Sat, May 12, 2012 1:42 AM

Using a gas generator on a boat is a recipe for disaster.  I suppose,
under careful and prudent supervision, you can manage the risks, but one
mishap and there is risk of electrocution, fire, explosion, burns, etc.

Just storing the gas presents problems. And the noise it creates for
others in an anchorage must be a nuisance, I don't care how quiet you
think your generator is.

Again, I think this is  part of a dangerous mindset that folks who can't
really afford to run and maintain a boat fall into--and includes the use
of equipment from Northern Tool, automotive parts and supplies, and RV
appliances. While you might be able to get by with such choices, the
value of your boat suffers, and your safety is compromised. I think it's
a slippery slope.

This is my opinion. It's not a matter or right or wrong, we each make
our own choices and manage the risk those choices create. I suspect I am
not alone.

Using a gas generator on a boat is a recipe for disaster. I suppose, under careful and prudent supervision, you can manage the risks, but one mishap and there is risk of electrocution, fire, explosion, burns, etc. Just storing the gas presents problems. And the noise it creates for others in an anchorage must be a nuisance, I don't care how quiet you think your generator is. Again, I think this is part of a dangerous mindset that folks who can't really afford to run and maintain a boat fall into--and includes the use of equipment from Northern Tool, automotive parts and supplies, and RV appliances. While you might be able to get by with such choices, the value of your boat suffers, and your safety is compromised. I think it's a slippery slope. This is my opinion. It's not a matter or right or wrong, we each make our own choices and manage the risk those choices create. I suspect I am not alone.
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Ed
Sat, May 12, 2012 2:23 AM

Really?
Virtually every cruising boat carries gas for the dink. So storage of gas
is a non issue. As for safety, have you been out cruising? Spend some time
in Marathon. There's at least 100 boats running honda 2k generators EVERY
day. Just in Marathon. Multiply that by anchorages all across the Carib. I
haven't heard of one fire or other accident related to a honda generator.
ANY of the devices we run on the boat can turn against us. I have read of
serious injuries from electric windlasses but I don't hear of calls for a
ban on them. As for valuation, you remove the honda and what is there that
would devalue the boat?

That leaves the noise issue. It is real. Built in diesel gensets are much
quieter. But you cannot compare a honda 2k with a Northern Tool Harbor
Freight rattle trap.
So to anyone considering a Honda 2k, consider the noise issue. If you have
space and tankage, a diesel genset is the best choice by far. If you choose
a gas putt-putt, be considerate of when and for how long you'll run it.

Thanks

Ed

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Frank Timpano ftimpano@infionline.netwrote:

Using a gas generator on a boat is a recipe for disaster.  I suppose,
under careful and prudent supervision, you can manage the risks, but one
mishap and there is risk of electrocution, fire, explosion, burns, etc.

Just storing the gas presents problems. And the noise it creates for
others in an anchorage must be a nuisance, I don't care how quiet you think
your generator is.

Again, I think this is  part of a dangerous mindset that folks who can't
really afford to run and maintain a boat fall into--and includes the use of
equipment from Northern Tool, automotive parts and supplies, and RV
appliances. While you might be able to get by with such choices, the value
of your boat suffers, and your safety is compromised. I think it's a
slippery slope.

This is my opinion. It's not a matter or right or wrong, we each make our
own choices and manage the risk those choices create. I suspect I am not
alone.

--
**

Really? Virtually every cruising boat carries gas for the dink. So storage of gas is a non issue. As for safety, have you been out cruising? Spend some time in Marathon. There's at least 100 boats running honda 2k generators EVERY day. Just in Marathon. Multiply that by anchorages all across the Carib. I haven't heard of one fire or other accident related to a honda generator. ANY of the devices we run on the boat can turn against us. I have read of serious injuries from electric windlasses but I don't hear of calls for a ban on them. As for valuation, you remove the honda and what is there that would devalue the boat? That leaves the noise issue. It is real. Built in diesel gensets are much quieter. But you cannot compare a honda 2k with a Northern Tool Harbor Freight rattle trap. So to anyone considering a Honda 2k, consider the noise issue. If you have space and tankage, a diesel genset is the best choice by far. If you choose a gas putt-putt, be considerate of when and for how long you'll run it. Thanks Ed On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Frank Timpano <ftimpano@infionline.net>wrote: > Using a gas generator on a boat is a recipe for disaster. I suppose, > under careful and prudent supervision, you can manage the risks, but one > mishap and there is risk of electrocution, fire, explosion, burns, etc. > > Just storing the gas presents problems. And the noise it creates for > others in an anchorage must be a nuisance, I don't care how quiet you think > your generator is. > > Again, I think this is part of a dangerous mindset that folks who can't > really afford to run and maintain a boat fall into--and includes the use of > equipment from Northern Tool, automotive parts and supplies, and RV > appliances. While you might be able to get by with such choices, the value > of your boat suffers, and your safety is compromised. I think it's a > slippery slope. > > This is my opinion. It's not a matter or right or wrong, we each make our > own choices and manage the risk those choices create. I suspect I am not > alone. > > > > -- **
LB
Leonard Brunotte
Sat, May 12, 2012 11:17 AM

Propane: Have any Captains rigged their dinghy's and Generators for propane
yet?
Kindest regards
Leonard Brunotte
Mary Jane 44

-----Original Message-----
<<>>Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 10:23 PM
To: Frank Timpano
Cc: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: T&T: Seeking input on generators

Really?
Virtually every cruising boat carries gas for the dink. So storage of gas is
a non issue. As for safety, have you been out cruising? Spend some time in
Marathon. There's at least 100 boats running honda 2k generators EVERY day.
Just in Marathon. Multiply that by anchorages all across the Carib. I
haven't heard of one fire or other accident related to a honda generator.
<<<>>>>>>>
Thanks

Ed

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Frank Timpano
ftimpano@infionline.netwrote:

Using a gas generator on a boat is a recipe for disaster.  I suppose,
under careful and prudent supervision, you can manage the risks, but
one mishap and there is risk of electrocution, fire, explosion, burns,

etc.

Just storing the gas presents problems<<<>>> I suspect I
am not alone.

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Propane: Have any Captains rigged their dinghy's and Generators for propane yet? Kindest regards Leonard Brunotte Mary Jane 44 -----Original Message----- <<>>Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 10:23 PM To: Frank Timpano Cc: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com Subject: Re: T&T: Seeking input on generators Really? Virtually every cruising boat carries gas for the dink. So storage of gas is a non issue. As for safety, have you been out cruising? Spend some time in Marathon. There's at least 100 boats running honda 2k generators EVERY day. Just in Marathon. Multiply that by anchorages all across the Carib. I haven't heard of one fire or other accident related to a honda generator. <<<>>>>>>> Thanks Ed On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Frank Timpano <ftimpano@infionline.net>wrote: > Using a gas generator on a boat is a recipe for disaster. I suppose, > under careful and prudent supervision, you can manage the risks, but > one mishap and there is risk of electrocution, fire, explosion, burns, etc. > > Just storing the gas presents problems<<<>>> I suspect I > am not alone. > > > > -- ** _______________________________________________ http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
FT
Frank Timpano
Sat, May 12, 2012 8:57 PM

Yeah. and a bunch of boaters out there don't know the rules of the road
either.

On 5/11/2012 10:23 PM, Ed wrote:

Really?
Virtually every cruising boat carries gas for the dink. So storage of
gas is a non issue. As for safety, have you been out cruising? Spend
some time in Marathon. There's at least 100 boats running honda 2k
generators EVERY day. Just in Marathon. Multiply that by anchorages
all across the Carib. I haven't heard of one fire or other accident
related to a honda generator. ANY of the devices we run on the boat
can turn against us. I have read of serious injuries from electric
windlasses but I don't hear of calls for a ban on them. As for
valuation, you remove the honda and what is there that would devalue
the boat?

--
/__/

Yeah. and a bunch of boaters out there don't know the rules of the road either. On 5/11/2012 10:23 PM, Ed wrote: > Really? > Virtually every cruising boat carries gas for the dink. So storage of > gas is a non issue. As for safety, have you been out cruising? Spend > some time in Marathon. There's at least 100 boats running honda 2k > generators EVERY day. Just in Marathon. Multiply that by anchorages > all across the Carib. I haven't heard of one fire or other accident > related to a honda generator. ANY of the devices we run on the boat > can turn against us. I have read of serious injuries from electric > windlasses but I don't hear of calls for a ban on them. As for > valuation, you remove the honda and what is there that would devalue > the boat? > > > > > > > -- > /*__*/
CH
Chuck Hanson (Yahoo)
Sun, May 13, 2012 1:58 AM

I cruised the inland waters for 23 years in my Gibson 50' houseboat.  It had
a 7.5 KWH Kohler generator that used one gallon per hour.  I had an 1800
watt four cycle gasoline generator mounted on the forward deck.  It ran for
four hours on less than one gallon.  I only used it when other boats were
not in the anchorage.  It was too loud.  It was large enough to run the
refrigerator and a few other things.  I had 250 gallons of gasoline on board
and I never was concerned over additional risk.  It didn't have an hour
meter on it so I can't estimate the number of hours it ran.  I never had to
work on it; I only changed the oil and added gasoline.  I sold the boat but
kept the generator.  I use it at my house for emergency power and for
powering small tools in remote places.

I won't use this generator on my diesel driven boat.  I was always concerned
with the thought of carbon monoxide poisoning.

-----Original Message-----
From: trawlers-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:trawlers-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Frank Timpano
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 8:43 PM
To: Ed
Cc: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: T&T: Seeking input on generators

Using a gas generator on a boat is a recipe for disaster.  I suppose,
under careful and prudent supervision, you can manage the risks, but one
mishap and there is risk of electrocution, fire, explosion, burns, etc.

I cruised the inland waters for 23 years in my Gibson 50' houseboat. It had a 7.5 KWH Kohler generator that used one gallon per hour. I had an 1800 watt four cycle gasoline generator mounted on the forward deck. It ran for four hours on less than one gallon. I only used it when other boats were not in the anchorage. It was too loud. It was large enough to run the refrigerator and a few other things. I had 250 gallons of gasoline on board and I never was concerned over additional risk. It didn't have an hour meter on it so I can't estimate the number of hours it ran. I never had to work on it; I only changed the oil and added gasoline. I sold the boat but kept the generator. I use it at my house for emergency power and for powering small tools in remote places. I won't use this generator on my diesel driven boat. I was always concerned with the thought of carbon monoxide poisoning. -----Original Message----- From: trawlers-bounces@lists.trawlering.com [mailto:trawlers-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Frank Timpano Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 8:43 PM To: Ed Cc: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com Subject: Re: T&T: Seeking input on generators Using a gas generator on a boat is a recipe for disaster. I suppose, under careful and prudent supervision, you can manage the risks, but one mishap and there is risk of electrocution, fire, explosion, burns, etc.