Aerocat Marine

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Georgs Kolesnikovs
Sun, Mar 1, 2009 2:47 PM

Anyone know anything about Aerocat Marine or Ken Handman? Anyone have
an opinion on what is offered at http://www.aerocatboats.com/?

--Georgs

What do you know of AeroCat Marine? They are up in Pennsylvania.

They make the hulls out of Nida Core with epoxied glass over it. You
can get just the raw hull and finish your self or they will finish
it.

I am concerned at the use of the Nida Core for all parts of the
boat. This is different than most.

What do you think of them?

http://www.aerocatboats.comwww.aerocatboats.com

I look forward to your response.

I am actually looking for an 18 to 20 ft Cat to use off the West
Coast of Florida around Tampa Bay and out into the Gulf of
Mexico.....any recommendations?

John

Anyone know anything about Aerocat Marine or Ken Handman? Anyone have an opinion on what is offered at <http://www.aerocatboats.com/>? --Georgs >What do you know of AeroCat Marine? They are up in Pennsylvania. > >They make the hulls out of Nida Core with epoxied glass over it. You >can get just the raw hull and finish your self or they will finish >it. > >I am concerned at the use of the Nida Core for all parts of the >boat. This is different than most. > >What do you think of them? > ><http://www.aerocatboats.com>www.aerocatboats.com > >I look forward to your response. > >I am actually looking for an 18 to 20 ft Cat to use off the West >Coast of Florida around Tampa Bay and out into the Gulf of >Mexico.....any recommendations? > >John
RD
Robert Deering
Sun, Mar 1, 2009 3:39 PM

Georgs,

Have never heard of these guys before, but I like what I see on their
website a lot.  I like the attitude I'm seeing too - 'can-do' and lots of
flexibility.  Looks like they're doing some sort of panelized
stitch-and-clue construction method which makes sense for this kind of
design.

Building with Nidacore doesn't concern me that much, especially since they
are using 100% epoxy.  The advantage in weight reduction is substantial.
The hull prices are fantastic, though of course the real expense is in the
'rest' of the boat.

A few notes of caution:

  1. The discussion of the 'air cushion' between the hulls is mostly bogus in
    my opinion.  I've seen it from other cat builders too.  A boat running 25
    knots simply does not pressurize enough air in the tunnel to have a
    meaningful impact on the ride in my opinion - I'd ask for some proof of
    their claim.

  2. The pocket trawler hull.  I'm dubious.  Looks like just a standard cat
    planing hull, but hard to see from the website.  It looks like the steering
    station is very far forward - in any kind of rough water you'll be taking a
    beating, cat hull or not.  And cat planing hulls are not good performers at
    displacement speeds in rough water - the tunnel is too low and it doesn't
    track well.

  3. 8'-6" is too narrow for a 26' cat IMO.  The relatively narrow beam
    sacrifices many of the cat advantages in space and stability.  But a 20'
    center console that was 8'-6" wide would be outstanding.

Bob Deering
Juneau, Alaska

On 3/1/09 5:47 AM, "Georgs Kolesnikovs" georgs@powercatamaranworld.com
wrote:

Anyone know anything about Aerocat Marine or Ken Handman? Anyone have
an opinion on what is offered at http://www.aerocatboats.com/?

--Georgs

What do you know of AeroCat Marine? They are up in Pennsylvania.

They make the hulls out of Nida Core with epoxied glass over it. You
can get just the raw hull and finish your self or they will finish
it.

I am concerned at the use of the Nida Core for all parts of the
boat. This is different than most.

What do you think of them?

http://www.aerocatboats.comwww.aerocatboats.com

I look forward to your response.

I am actually looking for an 18 to 20 ft Cat to use off the West
Coast of Florida around Tampa Bay and out into the Gulf of
Mexico.....any recommendations?

John


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Georgs, Have never heard of these guys before, but I like what I see on their website a lot. I like the attitude I'm seeing too - 'can-do' and lots of flexibility. Looks like they're doing some sort of panelized stitch-and-clue construction method which makes sense for this kind of design. Building with Nidacore doesn't concern me that much, especially since they are using 100% epoxy. The advantage in weight reduction is substantial. The hull prices are fantastic, though of course the real expense is in the 'rest' of the boat. A few notes of caution: 1. The discussion of the 'air cushion' between the hulls is mostly bogus in my opinion. I've seen it from other cat builders too. A boat running 25 knots simply does not pressurize enough air in the tunnel to have a meaningful impact on the ride in my opinion - I'd ask for some proof of their claim. 2. The pocket trawler hull. I'm dubious. Looks like just a standard cat planing hull, but hard to see from the website. It looks like the steering station is very far forward - in any kind of rough water you'll be taking a beating, cat hull or not. And cat planing hulls are not good performers at displacement speeds in rough water - the tunnel is too low and it doesn't track well. 3. 8'-6" is too narrow for a 26' cat IMO. The relatively narrow beam sacrifices many of the cat advantages in space and stability. But a 20' center console that was 8'-6" wide would be outstanding. Bob Deering Juneau, Alaska On 3/1/09 5:47 AM, "Georgs Kolesnikovs" <georgs@powercatamaranworld.com> wrote: > Anyone know anything about Aerocat Marine or Ken Handman? Anyone have > an opinion on what is offered at <http://www.aerocatboats.com/>? > > --Georgs > >> What do you know of AeroCat Marine? They are up in Pennsylvania. >> >> They make the hulls out of Nida Core with epoxied glass over it. You >> can get just the raw hull and finish your self or they will finish >> it. >> >> I am concerned at the use of the Nida Core for all parts of the >> boat. This is different than most. >> >> What do you think of them? >> >> <http://www.aerocatboats.com>www.aerocatboats.com >> >> I look forward to your response. >> >> I am actually looking for an 18 to 20 ft Cat to use off the West >> Coast of Florida around Tampa Bay and out into the Gulf of >> Mexico.....any recommendations? >> >> John > _______________________________________________ > Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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Rich
Wed, Mar 4, 2009 3:56 AM

Bob,
My name is Rich Pukal I live in Pittsburgh ,PA .
I feel the same way as you. I live 125 miles from there building
And have a apt for 03 10 to look over there boats and talk about the
Trawler they will be email me a design that we went over on the phone.
I would be more then happy to keep you in the loop on what we take about and
what I
See on the 03 10 .
Please drop me a note if this is ok with you.
Rich
Rich Pukall

-----Original Message-----
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Deering
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:39 AM
To: PCW List
Subject: Re: [PCW] Aerocat Marine

Georgs,

Have never heard of these guys before, but I like what I see on their
website a lot.  I like the attitude I'm seeing too - 'can-do' and lots of
flexibility.  Looks like they're doing some sort of panelized
stitch-and-clue construction method which makes sense for this kind of
design.

Building with Nidacore doesn't concern me that much, especially since they
are using 100% epoxy.  The advantage in weight reduction is substantial.
The hull prices are fantastic, though of course the real expense is in the
'rest' of the boat.

A few notes of caution:

  1. The discussion of the 'air cushion' between the hulls is mostly bogus in
    my opinion.  I've seen it from other cat builders too.  A boat running 25
    knots simply does not pressurize enough air in the tunnel to have a
    meaningful impact on the ride in my opinion - I'd ask for some proof of
    their claim.

  2. The pocket trawler hull.  I'm dubious.  Looks like just a standard cat
    planing hull, but hard to see from the website.  It looks like the steering
    station is very far forward - in any kind of rough water you'll be taking a
    beating, cat hull or not.  And cat planing hulls are not good performers at
    displacement speeds in rough water - the tunnel is too low and it doesn't
    track well.

  3. 8'-6" is too narrow for a 26' cat IMO.  The relatively narrow beam
    sacrifices many of the cat advantages in space and stability.  But a 20'
    center console that was 8'-6" wide would be outstanding.

Bob Deering
Juneau, Alaska

On 3/1/09 5:47 AM, "Georgs Kolesnikovs" georgs@powercatamaranworld.com
wrote:

Anyone know anything about Aerocat Marine or Ken Handman? Anyone have
an opinion on what is offered at http://www.aerocatboats.com/?

--Georgs

What do you know of AeroCat Marine? They are up in Pennsylvania.

They make the hulls out of Nida Core with epoxied glass over it. You
can get just the raw hull and finish your self or they will finish
it.

I am concerned at the use of the Nida Core for all parts of the
boat. This is different than most.

What do you think of them?

http://www.aerocatboats.comwww.aerocatboats.com

I look forward to your response.

I am actually looking for an 18 to 20 ft Cat to use off the West
Coast of Florida around Tampa Bay and out into the Gulf of
Mexico.....any recommendations?

John


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Bob, My name is Rich Pukal I live in Pittsburgh ,PA . I feel the same way as you. I live 125 miles from there building And have a apt for 03 10 to look over there boats and talk about the Trawler they will be email me a design that we went over on the phone. I would be more then happy to keep you in the loop on what we take about and what I See on the 03 10 . Please drop me a note if this is ok with you. Rich Rich Pukall -----Original Message----- From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com]On Behalf Of Robert Deering Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:39 AM To: PCW List Subject: Re: [PCW] Aerocat Marine Georgs, Have never heard of these guys before, but I like what I see on their website a lot. I like the attitude I'm seeing too - 'can-do' and lots of flexibility. Looks like they're doing some sort of panelized stitch-and-clue construction method which makes sense for this kind of design. Building with Nidacore doesn't concern me that much, especially since they are using 100% epoxy. The advantage in weight reduction is substantial. The hull prices are fantastic, though of course the real expense is in the 'rest' of the boat. A few notes of caution: 1. The discussion of the 'air cushion' between the hulls is mostly bogus in my opinion. I've seen it from other cat builders too. A boat running 25 knots simply does not pressurize enough air in the tunnel to have a meaningful impact on the ride in my opinion - I'd ask for some proof of their claim. 2. The pocket trawler hull. I'm dubious. Looks like just a standard cat planing hull, but hard to see from the website. It looks like the steering station is very far forward - in any kind of rough water you'll be taking a beating, cat hull or not. And cat planing hulls are not good performers at displacement speeds in rough water - the tunnel is too low and it doesn't track well. 3. 8'-6" is too narrow for a 26' cat IMO. The relatively narrow beam sacrifices many of the cat advantages in space and stability. But a 20' center console that was 8'-6" wide would be outstanding. Bob Deering Juneau, Alaska On 3/1/09 5:47 AM, "Georgs Kolesnikovs" <georgs@powercatamaranworld.com> wrote: > Anyone know anything about Aerocat Marine or Ken Handman? Anyone have > an opinion on what is offered at <http://www.aerocatboats.com/>? > > --Georgs > >> What do you know of AeroCat Marine? They are up in Pennsylvania. >> >> They make the hulls out of Nida Core with epoxied glass over it. You >> can get just the raw hull and finish your self or they will finish >> it. >> >> I am concerned at the use of the Nida Core for all parts of the >> boat. This is different than most. >> >> What do you think of them? >> >> <http://www.aerocatboats.com>www.aerocatboats.com >> >> I look forward to your response. >> >> I am actually looking for an 18 to 20 ft Cat to use off the West >> Coast of Florida around Tampa Bay and out into the Gulf of >> Mexico.....any recommendations? >> >> John > _______________________________________________ > Power-Catamaran Mailing List _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1982 - Release Date: 03/03/09 16:09:00
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Tim
Wed, Mar 4, 2009 7:43 AM

In reply to Robert Deering, you can have a catamaran with 26 ft with
8.ft 6inch beam that is successfull in all conditions.

For my own pleasure I built a Scaff wet deck Catamaran 18ft with a beam
of 7ft 8 inches with a drive station forward leaving large seating, dive
bottles
or fishng area available in the stern area.

We go wave surfing with this wet deck catamaran, run with 2 x 50hp motors at
at
35knots, no banging, no slamming and no spray and have regularly bring back
over 100lbs of fish at a time.

Tim Jordaan www.aventure-powercatmaran.com

In reply to Robert Deering, you can have a catamaran with 26 ft with 8.ft 6inch beam that is successfull in all conditions. For my own pleasure I built a Scaff wet deck Catamaran 18ft with a beam of 7ft 8 inches with a drive station forward leaving large seating, dive bottles or fishng area available in the stern area. We go wave surfing with this wet deck catamaran, run with 2 x 50hp motors at at 35knots, no banging, no slamming and no spray and have regularly bring back over 100lbs of fish at a time. Tim Jordaan www.aventure-powercatmaran.com