After 3 trips on the Erie, this is what worked for us: Your results may vary. _Capt. Sterling's Loopers Loop - YouTube_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7NamPMg1QM) See you in Paradise! Capt. Sterling _SterlingLadyIII_ (http://floridakeys.homestead.com/sterlingladyIII.html)