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Re: T&T: New boat

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LRZeitlin@aol.com
Wed, Jun 7, 2006 8:39 PM

An advertisement for a new boat, the Fountain 47, just fluttered across my
desk. It reads, in part "Blow past your friends at 88+ mph. Pull into the best
marinas first with all the luxury of a waterfront condo. Fountain Mercury's 47
Lightning is the perfect combination of performance and comfort."

The ad then goes on to rhapsodize about triple Mercury 525 EFI engines, full
standing headroom, a two burner stove and fridge, an AM/FM CD stereo system
with six speakers, etc.

Hidden in the small print is information about fuel consumption and range. At
its top speed the Fountain 47 burns an estimated 2.88 gallons per MINUTE or
258 gallons per hour. The range on a 314 gallon tank is 213 miles at a mere 60
mph. This works out to 1.44 gal/mile or 129 gal/hr at this admittedly high
cruising speed. At yesterday's gasoline price of $3.78/gal at the Tarrytown
Marina, the boat would burn $488 of fuel per hour. A trip up the Hudson from NYC to
Albany would cost $1220. That's assuming you really want to go to Albany.

It's enough to make an Arab dance with joy.

Larry Z

An advertisement for a new boat, the Fountain 47, just fluttered across my desk. It reads, in part "Blow past your friends at 88+ mph. Pull into the best marinas first with all the luxury of a waterfront condo. Fountain Mercury's 47 Lightning is the perfect combination of performance and comfort." The ad then goes on to rhapsodize about triple Mercury 525 EFI engines, full standing headroom, a two burner stove and fridge, an AM/FM CD stereo system with six speakers, etc. Hidden in the small print is information about fuel consumption and range. At its top speed the Fountain 47 burns an estimated 2.88 gallons per MINUTE or 258 gallons per hour. The range on a 314 gallon tank is 213 miles at a mere 60 mph. This works out to 1.44 gal/mile or 129 gal/hr at this admittedly high cruising speed. At yesterday's gasoline price of $3.78/gal at the Tarrytown Marina, the boat would burn $488 of fuel per hour. A trip up the Hudson from NYC to Albany would cost $1220. That's assuming you really want to go to Albany. It's enough to make an Arab dance with joy. Larry Z
TP
The Percivals
Wed, Jun 7, 2006 10:23 PM

Here's a listing for the very boat-although this is a slightly used
version (39 hours may have bankrupted the owner).  Good photos, though.

http://www.smithimports.com/602065.htm

Dave Percival
Fales 32 "Happenstance"
Mystic, CT

LRZeitlin@aol.com wrote:

An advertisement for a new boat, the Fountain 47, just fluttered across my
desk. It reads, in part "Blow past your friends at 88+ mph. Pull into the best
marinas first with all the luxury of a waterfront condo. Fountain Mercury's 47
Lightning is the perfect combination of performance and comfort."

The ad then goes on to rhapsodize about triple Mercury 525 EFI engines, full
standing headroom, a two burner stove and fridge, an AM/FM CD stereo system
with six speakers, etc.

Hidden in the small print is information about fuel consumption and range. At
its top speed the Fountain 47 burns an estimated 2.88 gallons per MINUTE or
258 gallons per hour. The range on a 314 gallon tank is 213 miles at a mere 60
mph. This works out to 1.44 gal/mile or 129 gal/hr at this admittedly high
cruising speed. At yesterday's gasoline price of $3.78/gal at the Tarrytown
Marina, the boat would burn $488 of fuel per hour. A trip up the Hudson from NYC to
Albany would cost $1220. That's assuming you really want to go to Albany.

It's enough to make an Arab dance with joy.

Larry Z


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Here's a listing for the very boat-although this is a slightly used version (39 hours may have bankrupted the owner). Good photos, though. http://www.smithimports.com/602065.htm Dave Percival Fales 32 "Happenstance" Mystic, CT LRZeitlin@aol.com wrote: >An advertisement for a new boat, the Fountain 47, just fluttered across my >desk. It reads, in part "Blow past your friends at 88+ mph. Pull into the best >marinas first with all the luxury of a waterfront condo. Fountain Mercury's 47 >Lightning is the perfect combination of performance and comfort." > >The ad then goes on to rhapsodize about triple Mercury 525 EFI engines, full >standing headroom, a two burner stove and fridge, an AM/FM CD stereo system >with six speakers, etc. > >Hidden in the small print is information about fuel consumption and range. At >its top speed the Fountain 47 burns an estimated 2.88 gallons per MINUTE or >258 gallons per hour. The range on a 314 gallon tank is 213 miles at a mere 60 >mph. This works out to 1.44 gal/mile or 129 gal/hr at this admittedly high >cruising speed. At yesterday's gasoline price of $3.78/gal at the Tarrytown >Marina, the boat would burn $488 of fuel per hour. A trip up the Hudson from NYC to >Albany would cost $1220. That's assuming you really want to go to Albany. > >It's enough to make an Arab dance with joy. > >Larry Z >_______________________________________________ >http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > >To unsubscribe send email to >trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word >UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > >Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World >Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
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Bob Peterson
Wed, Jun 7, 2006 10:44 PM

Wow Larry.  A "two burner stove"!  Amazing, almost a trawler.

Bob Peterson

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LRZeitlin@aol.com
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Subject: Re: T&T: New boat

An advertisement for a new boat, the Fountain 47, just fluttered across my
desk. It reads, in part "Blow past your friends at 88+ mph. Pull into the
best marinas first with all the luxury of a waterfront condo. Fountain
Mercury's 47 Lightning is the perfect combination of performance and
comfort."

The ad then goes on to rhapsodize about triple Mercury 525 EFI engines, full
standing headroom, a two burner stove and fridge, an AM/FM CD stereo system
with six speakers, etc.

Hidden in the small print is information about fuel consumption and range.
At its top speed the Fountain 47 burns an estimated 2.88 gallons per MINUTE
or
258 gallons per hour. The range on a 314 gallon tank is 213 miles at a mere
60 mph. This works out to 1.44 gal/mile or 129 gal/hr at this admittedly
high cruising speed. At yesterday's gasoline price of $3.78/gal at the
Tarrytown Marina, the boat would burn $488 of fuel per hour. A trip up the
Hudson from NYC to Albany would cost $1220. That's assuming you really want
to go to Albany.

It's enough to make an Arab dance with joy.

Larry Z


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Wow Larry. A "two burner stove"! Amazing, almost a trawler. Bob Peterson -----Original Message----- From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of LRZeitlin@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 1:39 PM To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com Subject: Re: T&T: New boat An advertisement for a new boat, the Fountain 47, just fluttered across my desk. It reads, in part "Blow past your friends at 88+ mph. Pull into the best marinas first with all the luxury of a waterfront condo. Fountain Mercury's 47 Lightning is the perfect combination of performance and comfort." The ad then goes on to rhapsodize about triple Mercury 525 EFI engines, full standing headroom, a two burner stove and fridge, an AM/FM CD stereo system with six speakers, etc. Hidden in the small print is information about fuel consumption and range. At its top speed the Fountain 47 burns an estimated 2.88 gallons per MINUTE or 258 gallons per hour. The range on a 314 gallon tank is 213 miles at a mere 60 mph. This works out to 1.44 gal/mile or 129 gal/hr at this admittedly high cruising speed. At yesterday's gasoline price of $3.78/gal at the Tarrytown Marina, the boat would burn $488 of fuel per hour. A trip up the Hudson from NYC to Albany would cost $1220. That's assuming you really want to go to Albany. It's enough to make an Arab dance with joy. Larry Z _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe send email to trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
MM
Mike Maurice
Wed, Jun 7, 2006 11:19 PM

Hidden in the small print is information about fuel consumption and range.
At its top speed the Fountain 47 burns an estimated 2.88 gallons per MINUTE
or
258 gallons per hour. The range on a 314 gallon tank is 213 miles at a mere
60 mph. This works out to 1.44 gal/mile or 129 gal/hr at this admittedly
high cruising speed.

There must be some might sleepy mathematicians driving around this
afternoon. 2.88 gpm works out to be about 175 gals per hour, not 258.
At 175 gals per hour, the range on 314 gallons is only about 1 3/4
hours. If that is at 60 mph, then the range is about 100 miles. If it's
at 90 mph, it's about 160 miles.
These range figures work out to about 3.1 gals per mile, which brings us
back to the 2.88 gpm, which 60 mph divides back into 60 minutes, exactly.

Somehow all this reminds me a a 50' Ferreti that I ran one time. It had
twin 800 hp Cats and would do 30 knots. It carried about 400 gals and
had about 150 miles of range at 20 knots.
The Fountain 47 must made out of rice paper to be light enough to do
over 80 mph, or even 60 knots.

Mike


Capt. Mike Maurice
Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland)

> Hidden in the small print is information about fuel consumption and range. > At its top speed the Fountain 47 burns an estimated 2.88 gallons per MINUTE > or > 258 gallons per hour. The range on a 314 gallon tank is 213 miles at a mere > 60 mph. This works out to 1.44 gal/mile or 129 gal/hr at this admittedly > high cruising speed. There must be some might sleepy mathematicians driving around this afternoon. 2.88 gpm works out to be about 175 gals per hour, not 258. At 175 gals per hour, the range on 314 gallons is only about 1 3/4 hours. If that is at 60 mph, then the range is about 100 miles. If it's at 90 mph, it's about 160 miles. These range figures work out to about 3.1 gals per mile, which brings us back to the 2.88 gpm, which 60 mph divides back into 60 minutes, exactly. Somehow all this reminds me a a 50' Ferreti that I ran one time. It had twin 800 hp Cats and would do 30 knots. It carried about 400 gals and had about 150 miles of range at 20 knots. The Fountain 47 must made out of rice paper to be light enough to do over 80 mph, or even 60 knots. Mike _____________________________________ Capt. Mike Maurice Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland)
AJ
Arild Jensen
Thu, Jun 8, 2006 1:45 AM

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Peterson
Wow Larry.  A "two burner stove"!  Amazing, almost a trawler.

REPLY
It can't be a trawler it doesn't have a walk in engineroom. <VBG>
Arild

> -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Peterson > Wow Larry. A "two burner stove"! Amazing, almost a trawler. REPLY It can't be a trawler it doesn't have a walk in engineroom. <VBG> Arild
M
Mark
Thu, Jun 8, 2006 5:35 AM

Whether it's 1.44 or 3.1 gals/mile that's
.69 or .32 mpg, but a mainship 40 at 13 knots is only 1.1 mpg (2.5 mpg at 6.7 knots).
(http://www.mainship.com/fueleconomy/yanmar2.html)

It seems that boat are just stuck in this 1-2 mpg rut.

I'd still like a 10mpg boat at 10 knots ;-)

Mike Maurice mikem@yachtsdelivered.com wrote: > Hidden in the small print is information about fuel consumption and range.

At its top speed the Fountain 47 burns an estimated 2.88 gallons per MINUTE
or
258 gallons per hour. The range on a 314 gallon tank is 213 miles at a mere
60 mph. This works out to 1.44 gal/mile or 129 gal/hr at this admittedly
high cruising speed.

There must be some might sleepy mathematicians driving around this
afternoon. 2.88 gpm works out to be about 175 gals per hour, not 258.
At 175 gals per hour, the range on 314 gallons is only about 1 3/4
hours. If that is at 60 mph, then the range is about 100 miles. If it's
at 90 mph, it's about 160 miles.
These range figures work out to about 3.1 gals per mile, which brings us
back to the 2.88 gpm, which 60 mph divides back into 60 minutes, exactly.

Somehow all this reminds me a a 50' Ferreti that I ran one time. It had
twin 800 hp Cats and would do 30 knots. It carried about 400 gals and
had about 150 miles of range at 20 knots.
The Fountain 47 must made out of rice paper to be light enough to do
over 80 mph, or even 60 knots.

Mike


Capt. Mike Maurice
Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland)


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Whether it's 1.44 or 3.1 gals/mile that's .69 or .32 mpg, but a mainship 40 at 13 knots is only 1.1 mpg (2.5 mpg at 6.7 knots). (http://www.mainship.com/fueleconomy/yanmar2.html) It seems that boat are just stuck in this 1-2 mpg rut. I'd still like a 10mpg boat at 10 knots ;-) Mike Maurice <mikem@yachtsdelivered.com> wrote: > Hidden in the small print is information about fuel consumption and range. > At its top speed the Fountain 47 burns an estimated 2.88 gallons per MINUTE > or > 258 gallons per hour. The range on a 314 gallon tank is 213 miles at a mere > 60 mph. This works out to 1.44 gal/mile or 129 gal/hr at this admittedly > high cruising speed. There must be some might sleepy mathematicians driving around this afternoon. 2.88 gpm works out to be about 175 gals per hour, not 258. At 175 gals per hour, the range on 314 gallons is only about 1 3/4 hours. If that is at 60 mph, then the range is about 100 miles. If it's at 90 mph, it's about 160 miles. These range figures work out to about 3.1 gals per mile, which brings us back to the 2.88 gpm, which 60 mph divides back into 60 minutes, exactly. Somehow all this reminds me a a 50' Ferreti that I ran one time. It had twin 800 hp Cats and would do 30 knots. It carried about 400 gals and had about 150 miles of range at 20 knots. The Fountain 47 must made out of rice paper to be light enough to do over 80 mph, or even 60 knots. Mike _____________________________________ Capt. Mike Maurice Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland) _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe send email to trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
AJ
Arild Jensen
Thu, Jun 8, 2006 6:29 AM

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark
It seems that boat are just stuck in this 1-2 mpg rut.

I'd still like a 10mpg boat at 10 knots ;-)

REPLY
Then you need to examine hull forms other than full displacement mono hulls.
Begin with power cats and workfrom there.
Laws of physics cannot be negated but sometimes there are loop holes. <G>

Arild

> -----Original Message----- > From: Mark > It seems that boat are just stuck in this 1-2 mpg rut. > > I'd still like a 10mpg boat at 10 knots ;-) REPLY Then you need to examine hull forms other than full displacement mono hulls. Begin with power cats and workfrom there. Laws of physics cannot be negated but sometimes there are loop holes. <G> Arild
T
trawlerphil
Sat, Jun 10, 2006 1:05 PM

(SNIP) This works out to 1.44 gal/mile or 129 gal/hr..

Larry, your math is interesting, but you missed the hidden carrying cost.
Those "port and starboard pleasure units" make the fuel costs statistically
insignificant.

                                      Regards....

Phil Rosch
Old Harbor Consulting
M/V "Curmudgeon" MT44 TC
Currently lying Bond Creek, NC

(SNIP) This works out to 1.44 gal/mile or 129 gal/hr.. Larry, your math is interesting, but you missed the hidden carrying cost. Those "port and starboard pleasure units" make the fuel costs statistically insignificant. Regards.... Phil Rosch Old Harbor Consulting M/V "Curmudgeon" MT44 TC Currently lying Bond Creek, NC