Question: Does your Marina and Local Fire Department have a "Throwing Weight", Grappling Hook or Anchor with a Steel Cable" with them when they respond to a boat fire? If not, insist they get them now! I have seen a simple truth: When a boat is burning at a dock, or on the water, and you want to keep it from drifting, or keep it where it is (and let it burn), the boat must be "Controlled", otherwise it is "Out of Control", (and as luck would have it the wind Will be blowing)... A burning boat at a dock "Will" drift away (still burning) once the lines burn through. Fire left uncontrolled will spread fast downwind and a drifting boat spreads the fire. A grappling hook/anchor with a "Steel Cable" leader is a very very valuable tool to control the boats location. I have seen a futile effort to gain control by throwing an anchor with a "nylon" rope from a dingy, in an effort to pull the boat away from other boats, but you can guess the result (the rope burns through). I will leave it to the list as to which type of Cable and/or Anchor or Grappling Hook would be the best to throw (and not to burn up) and how to fastened and when to let it go (if the boat sinks). The point is gain control and maintain control until the burning boat is either put out, or burns to, and then, through the waterline, and sinks. We just had $2M+ of damage (boats and equipment) in our marina Valentine's night, because a small investment in safety was not thought of by the fire department. Norm Miller Quiet Company Great Harbour GH47 Sent from my iPad. Please excuse typing errors...

Well Norm I checked with my local Fire department and they dont have one, and they dont have money in the budget for one either. As for me I wont be purchasing one either because if a boat catches on fire around me I have no way to tow it away from either my boat or the dock. Plus I'm not interested in trying because of the intense heat that burning boats produce, or the hundreds, perhaps thousands of gallons of flammable liquids that they contain. As for me I will leave the Firefighting to the professionals and if they dont come through I'll then leave it up to the insurance professionals. > From: spottsville@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:48:24 -0600 > To: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com > Subject: GL: BOAT ON FIRE > > Question: Does your Marina and Local Fire Department have a "Throwing Weight", Grappling Hook or Anchor with a Steel Cable" with them when they respond to a boat fire? > > If not, insist they get them now! > > I have seen a simple truth: When a boat is burning at a dock, or on the water, and you want to keep it from drifting, or keep it where it is (and let it burn), the boat must be "Controlled", otherwise it is "Out of Control", (and as luck would have it the wind Will be blowing)... > > A burning boat at a dock "Will" drift away (still burning) once the lines burn through. Fire left uncontrolled will spread fast downwind and a drifting boat spreads the fire. > > A grappling hook/anchor with a "Steel Cable" leader is a very very valuable tool to control the boats location. I have seen a futile effort to gain control by throwing an anchor with a "nylon" rope from a dingy, in an effort to pull the boat away from other boats, but you can guess the result (the rope burns through). > > I will leave it to the list as to which type of Cable and/or Anchor or Grappling Hook would be the best to throw (and not to burn up) and how to fastened and when to let it go (if the boat sinks). The point is gain control and maintain control until the burning boat is either put out, or burns to, and then, through the waterline, and sinks. > > We just had $2M+ of damage (boats and equipment) in our marina Valentine's night, because a small investment in safety was not thought of by the fire department. > > Norm Miller > Quiet Company > Great Harbour GH47 > > > Sent from my iPad. Please excuse typing errors... > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

... they dont have money in the budget for one either. I'd worry, then. Grapples start around $10. https://www.google.ca/search?q=grappling+anchor > As for me I wont be purchasing one either because if a boat catches on fire around me I have no way to tow it away from either my boat or the dock. A grapple is a handy item to have aboard to snag things or catch and hold a dock that has no fasteners where you need them. A short chunk of steel cable could be a handy thing to have around as well. No chafe. When I think of it, I have several on my boat already. Just sayin'

Agreed. Why would you put yourself in harms way. Fiberglass and fuel of any kind make for a bad combo. Get as far away as you can and get the camera out..., Firefighters are professionals for a reason. Chris Reikersdorfer, MD Cell: 608-575-2035 Email: creik1965@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2015, at 14:16, Billy . <esquire56@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Well Norm I checked with my local Fire department and they dont have one, and they dont have money in the budget for one either. As for me I wont be purchasing one either because if a boat catches on fire around me I have no way to tow it away from either my boat or the dock. Plus I'm not interested in trying because of the intense heat that burning boats produce, or the hundreds, perhaps thousands of gallons of flammable liquids that they contain. As for me I will leave the Firefighting to the professionals and if they dont come through I'll then leave it up to the insurance professionals. > > >> From: spottsville@gmail.com >> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:48:24 -0600 >> To: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com >> Subject: GL: BOAT ON FIRE >> >> Question: Does your Marina and Local Fire Department have a "Throwing Weight", Grappling Hook or Anchor with a Steel Cable" with them when they respond to a boat fire? >> >> If not, insist they get them now! >> >> I have seen a simple truth: When a boat is burning at a dock, or on the water, and you want to keep it from drifting, or keep it where it is (and let it burn), the boat must be "Controlled", otherwise it is "Out of Control", (and as luck would have it the wind Will be blowing)... >> >> A burning boat at a dock "Will" drift away (still burning) once the lines burn through. Fire left uncontrolled will spread fast downwind and a drifting boat spreads the fire. >> >> A grappling hook/anchor with a "Steel Cable" leader is a very very valuable tool to control the boats location. I have seen a futile effort to gain control by throwing an anchor with a "nylon" rope from a dingy, in an effort to pull the boat away from other boats, but you can guess the result (the rope burns through). >> >> I will leave it to the list as to which type of Cable and/or Anchor or Grappling Hook would be the best to throw (and not to burn up) and how to fastened and when to let it go (if the boat sinks). The point is gain control and maintain control until the burning boat is either put out, or burns to, and then, through the waterline, and sinks. >> >> We just had $2M+ of damage (boats and equipment) in our marina Valentine's night, because a small investment in safety was not thought of by the fire department. >> >> Norm Miller >> Quiet Company >> Great Harbour GH47 >> >> >> Sent from my iPad. Please excuse typing errors... >> _______________________________________________ >> http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com >> >> To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, >> unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

A one-size-fits-all response to a fire in another vessel is probably not possible, given the variability of conditions encountered. Certain principles should govern. In no special order: Get your vessel clear so as to preserve it and not have it spread the fire. Hand your wire rope and grapnel to somebody who can use it to good effect. Once you and your boat are safe, help others if you can - there is no requirement for good Samaritans to endanger themselves. Take photos or have somebody else do so. Rich Gano Calypso (GB-CL42 Hull 295) Panama City, FL