I saw that. There is nothing I can do about it other than by using a url shortener which I am reluctant to do because of the obfuscation and potential for abuse. I assume that by now everyone knows how to deal with these problems, and if someone does not, now is a good time to brush up... Didier > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com > [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rooke > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:17 AM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Advantages & Disadvantages of the TPLL Method > > Didier > > On 13 June 2010 21:51, Didier Juges <didier@cox.net> wrote: > > Tom, > > > > I took the liberty of converting your post into an entry in my > > Time-Nuts > > Wiki: > > > http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=precision_timing:phase_frequ > > ency_m > > easurement_methods > > Just to let you know that your link got busted by a line-wrap > somewhere so it is not clickable and has to be cut and pasted > into place. > > But it could be just the World hating me again :) > > Cheers, > Steve > > > Please note anyone can edit this Wiki or create new pages. > > > > Didier > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com > >> [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Van Baak > >> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 1:35 AM > >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Advantages & Disadvantages of the TPLL > >> Method > >> > >> Here are a couple of really good articles that describe > many methods > >> of phase/frequency measurement, including TPLL. > >> You'll see some nice "advantage/disadvantage" lists in several of > >> these documents, which is why I'm posting the links. > >> > >> Warren & Bruce, please look at the first five documents at least. > >> John too. Lots of TPLL info. This is all worth reading. I > don't know > >> why I didn't find some of these papers six months ago. > >> > >> > >> System Phase Noise Calculation and Measurement Techniques > >> > http://www.mpdigest.com/issue/Articles/2009/sept/spectrum/Default.asp > >> -- short article, nice summary. > >> > >> PN9000 Automated Phase Noise Measurement System > Application Note #1 > >> http://www.aeroflex.com/ats/products/prodfiles/appnotes/12/app1.pdf > >> -- see section 2; TPLL is section 2.2. > >> > >> Oscillator Phase Noise Measurements using the Phase Lock Method > >> http://ravoltek.net/dippa/dippa_rajala_olli.pdf > >> -- TPLL, equations, graphs, error analysis, photos, > schematics, parts > >> list. > >> > >> An investigation into the phase noise of quartz crystal > oscillators > >> http://etd.sun.ac.za/bitstream/10019/337/1/BentleyB.pdf > >> -- see chapter 4 or at least section 4.3; TPLL is 4.3.3.2. > >> > >> PN9000 Automated Phase Noise Measurement System > Application Note #2 > >> http://smartdata.usbid.com/datasheets/usbid/2000/2000-q4/app2.pdf > >> http://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/Datasheet-010/DSA00173368.pdf > >> -- theory of operation, TPLL > >> > >> > >> A General Theory of Phase Noise in Electrical Oscillators > >> http://www.chic.caltech.edu/Publications/general_full.PDF > >> -- too deep for me. > >> > >> Phase Noise Measurement. Using the Phase Lock Technique > >> http://www.chem.duke.edu/~boris/datasheets/AN1639_phase_noise.pdf > >> http://www.lansdale.com/Articles/an1639.pdf > >> -- might be applicable. > >> > >> Correlation-based phase noise measurements > >> http://www.femto-st.fr/~rubiola/pdf-others/correl-report.pdf > >> -- for John Miles > >> > >> Practical Problems Involving Phase Noise Measurements > >> http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2001/paper42.pdf > >> --  also for John. > >> > >> /tvb > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > -- > Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV & G8KVD > The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. > - Einstein > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, > go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

On 13/06/2010, Didier Juges <didier@cox.net> wrote: > I saw that. There is nothing I can do about it other than by using a url > shortener You can hint to most email clients that you'd like lines unbroken, using <angle brackets> This may work... <http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=precision_timing:phase_frequency_measurement_methods> Steve

Steve, This seems to work with your email client sending and Outlook here receiving (I received that link unbroken), but the same link I just sent was broken, so it seems Outlook is doing that on the way out, but not on the way in... I should have known, Microsoft... Bottom line, no sure way to fix it, therefore the use of brain matter is recommended... Didier > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com > [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Steve Wiseman > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:57 AM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Advantages & Disadvantages of the TPLL Method > > On 13/06/2010, Didier Juges <didier@cox.net> wrote: > > I saw that. There is nothing I can do about it other than > by using a > > url shortener > > You can hint to most email clients that you'd like lines > unbroken, using <angle brackets> This may work... > <http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=precision_timing:ph ase_frequency_measurement_methods> > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, > go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >