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BG
Bruce Griffiths
Mon, Nov 10, 2008 4:43 AM

Bill Hawkins wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Griffiths
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 10:00 PM

-------%<--------
Thus
VAR(1) = (VAR(1,2) + VAR(1,3) - VAR(2,3))/2
VAR(2) = (VAR(1,2) + VAR(2,3) - VAR(1,3))/2
VAR(3) = (VAR(1,3) + VAR(1,3) - VAR(1,2))/2

and
-------%<--------
Thus
ADEV(1) = (ADEV(1,2) + ADEV(1,3) - ADEV(2,3))/2
ADEV(2) = (ADEV(1,2) + ADEV(2,3) - ADEV(1,3))/2
ADEV(3) = (ADEV(1,3) + ADEV(1,3) - ADEV(1,2))/2

Bruce,

Does the third equation really use ADEV(1,3) twice?
It doesn't have the same symmetry as the first and second
where each index shows up twice.

Bill Hawkins

Bill

No it shouldn't, I obviously missed this when editing.

they should be:

VAR(3) = (VAR(1,3) + VAR(2,3) - VAR(1,2))/2

ADEV(3) = (ADEV(1,3) + ADEV(2,3) - ADEV(1,2))/2

Bruce

Bill Hawkins wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Griffiths > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 10:00 PM > > -------%<-------- > Thus > VAR(1) = (VAR(1,2) + VAR(1,3) - VAR(2,3))/2 > VAR(2) = (VAR(1,2) + VAR(2,3) - VAR(1,3))/2 > VAR(3) = (VAR(1,3) + VAR(1,3) - VAR(1,2))/2 > > and > -------%<-------- > Thus > ADEV(1) = (ADEV(1,2) + ADEV(1,3) - ADEV(2,3))/2 > ADEV(2) = (ADEV(1,2) + ADEV(2,3) - ADEV(1,3))/2 > ADEV(3) = (ADEV(1,3) + ADEV(1,3) - ADEV(1,2))/2 > > > Bruce, > > Does the third equation really use ADEV(1,3) twice? > It doesn't have the same symmetry as the first and second > where each index shows up twice. > > Bill Hawkins > > > Bill No it shouldn't, I obviously missed this when editing. they should be: VAR(3) = (VAR(1,3) + VAR(2,3) - VAR(1,2))/2 ADEV(3) = (ADEV(1,3) + ADEV(2,3) - ADEV(1,2))/2 Bruce
BG
Bruce Griffiths
Mon, Nov 10, 2008 9:29 AM

Bruce Griffiths wrote:

Bill Hawkins wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Griffiths
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 10:00 PM

-------%<--------
Thus
VAR(1) = (VAR(1,2) + VAR(1,3) - VAR(2,3))/2
VAR(2) = (VAR(1,2) + VAR(2,3) - VAR(1,3))/2
VAR(3) = (VAR(1,3) + VAR(1,3) - VAR(1,2))/2

and
-------%<--------
Thus
ADEV(1) = (ADEV(1,2) + ADEV(1,3) - ADEV(2,3))/2
ADEV(2) = (ADEV(1,2) + ADEV(2,3) - ADEV(1,3))/2
ADEV(3) = (ADEV(1,3) + ADEV(1,3) - ADEV(1,2))/2

Bruce,

Does the third equation really use ADEV(1,3) twice?
It doesn't have the same symmetry as the first and second
where each index shows up twice.

Bill Hawkins

Bill

No it shouldn't, I obviously missed this when editing.

they should be:

VAR(3) = (VAR(1,3) + VAR(2,3) - VAR(1,2))/2

ADEV(3) = (ADEV(1,3) + ADEV(2,3) - ADEV(1,2))/2

Bruce


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Oops, the last 3 equations should actually have been:

AVAR(1) = (AVAR(1,2) + AVAR(1,3) - AVAR(2,3))/2
AVAR(2) = (AVAR(1,2) + AVAR(2,3) - AVAR(1,3))/2
AVAR(3) = (AVAR(1,3) + AVAR(2,3) - AVAR(1,2))/2

That is the Allan variances, not the Allan Deviations.

Bruce

Bruce Griffiths wrote: > Bill Hawkins wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bruce Griffiths >> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 10:00 PM >> >> -------%<-------- >> Thus >> VAR(1) = (VAR(1,2) + VAR(1,3) - VAR(2,3))/2 >> VAR(2) = (VAR(1,2) + VAR(2,3) - VAR(1,3))/2 >> VAR(3) = (VAR(1,3) + VAR(1,3) - VAR(1,2))/2 >> >> and >> -------%<-------- >> Thus >> ADEV(1) = (ADEV(1,2) + ADEV(1,3) - ADEV(2,3))/2 >> ADEV(2) = (ADEV(1,2) + ADEV(2,3) - ADEV(1,3))/2 >> ADEV(3) = (ADEV(1,3) + ADEV(1,3) - ADEV(1,2))/2 >> >> >> Bruce, >> >> Does the third equation really use ADEV(1,3) twice? >> It doesn't have the same symmetry as the first and second >> where each index shows up twice. >> >> Bill Hawkins >> >> >> >> > Bill > > No it shouldn't, I obviously missed this when editing. > > they should be: > > VAR(3) = (VAR(1,3) + VAR(2,3) - VAR(1,2))/2 > > > ADEV(3) = (ADEV(1,3) + ADEV(2,3) - ADEV(1,2))/2 > > > Bruce > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > Oops, the last 3 equations should actually have been: AVAR(1) = (AVAR(1,2) + AVAR(1,3) - AVAR(2,3))/2 AVAR(2) = (AVAR(1,2) + AVAR(2,3) - AVAR(1,3))/2 AVAR(3) = (AVAR(1,3) + AVAR(2,3) - AVAR(1,2))/2 That is the Allan variances, not the Allan Deviations. Bruce