If you stop at Illion on the erie canal to see the factory tour at Remington Arms. it has been cancelled permanently. The museum is still there. They have a nice film that shows the manufacture of several long guns. It's amazing to see the skill and technology in making a rifle. Gregory Han

Very sad! Probably has something to do with New York's new gun laws.... Sent from my iPhone On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:54 AM, "Greg Han - Allegria" <hangreg@gmail.com> wrote: > If you stop at Illion on the erie canal to see the factory tour at Remington Arms. it has been cancelled permanently. > The museum is still there. They have a nice film that shows the manufacture of several long guns. It's amazing to see the skill and technology in making a rifle. > > Gregory Han > > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

I believe that several states, Oklahoma among them, are courting arms and related industries to relocate from NY and CO to friendlier climes for them. * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** D C "Mac" Macdonald ** * Grand Lake & OKC - OK * ** AGLCA (#217) & USPS ** * * (no current boat) * * ** USAF & FAA, Retired ** ** Amateur Radio K2GKK ** * * Since 30 Nov 1953 * * * * k2gkk@hotmail.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > From: oneseptember@msn.com > Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:33:48 -0400 > To: hangreg@gmail.com > CC: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com > Subject: Re: GL: Remington factory tour closed, Illion, Ny > > Very sad! Probably has something to do with New York's new gun laws.... > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:54 AM, "Greg Han - Allegria" <hangreg@gmail.com> wrote: > > > If you stop at Illion on the erie canal to see the factory tour at Remington Arms. it has been cancelled permanently. > > The museum is still there. They have a nice film that shows the manufacture of several long guns. It's amazing to see the skill and technology in making a rifle. > > > > Gregory Han

The only thing closed at Remington is the "factory tour" we really enjoyed the beautiful mueseum and had a great time stopping there. Small world meeting Alegria in French Bay in Clayton, N.Y. up here in 1000 Island area. Safe cruise back to Biscayne Bay Greg. Temp here early this morning at Bonnie Castle Marina in Alexandria Bay is 47 Deg F.  Visited Boldt Castle and Singer Castle and it was Great! Leaving for Oswego and Winter Harbor Marina in Brewerton for Winter Haul out in a few weeks. Then ALLEZ! crew will be wintering in Charleston, S.C.   Safe Cruising to All   Bob & Helen Onboard ALLEZ! Capt Bob Kovach KJ4UGE    MMSI: 367482710  WDF-7261 (SSB & VHF) Doing The Great Loop Onboard M/Y ALLEZ!    MTOA 2631 AGLCA 1969, WRCC, USCG-ARC USPS  EMail: my_allez@yahoo.com From: Greg Han - Allegria <hangreg@gmail.com> To: Great Loop <great-loop@lists.trawlering.com> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 11:54 AM Subject: GL: Remington factory tour closed, Illion, Ny If you stop at Illion on the erie canal to see the factory tour at Remington Arms. it has been cancelled permanently. The museum is still there.  They have a nice film that shows the manufacture of several long guns. It's amazing to see the skill and technology in making a rifle. Gregory Han _______________________________________________ http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com

I greatly enjoyed the tour and am sorry it has been shutdown but not surprised. My guess is that liability concerns was the primary reason for stopping the tours. We were walked thru an operating factory with heavy equipment (many moving metal parts) within an easy arms reach. In many places there were just minimal physical barriers(fence/guards) between us the the operating machinery. In other locations just a yellow line on the floor and a caution to not touch anything. With us on the tour were several young children generally unsupervised by their parents continually wanting to test "Darwin". It is a shame but understandable. Perhaps they can restructure it to mitigate the safety/liability issues and still permit the public to view this fascinating manufacturing process. The Custom shop was particularly fascinating and the artistic skill of these gunsmiths amazing. Joe "Carolyn Ann" GH N-37 Platinum Looper On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:53 AM, MY ALLEZ <my_allez@yahoo.com> wrote: > The only thing closed at Remington is the "factory tour" we really enjoyed > the beautiful mueseum and had a great time stopping there. Small world > meeting Alegria in French Bay > in Clayton, N.Y. up here in 1000 Island area. Safe cruise back to Biscayne > Bay > Greg. Temp here early this morning at Bonnie Castle Marina in Alexandria > Bay > is 47 Deg F. Visited Boldt Castle and Singer Castle and it was Great! > Leaving for > Oswego and Winter Harbor Marina in Brewerton for Winter Haul out in a few > weeks. > Then ALLEZ! crew will be wintering in Charleston, S.C. > > Safe Cruising to All > > Bob & Helen > Onboard ALLEZ! > > Capt Bob Kovach > KJ4UGE MMSI: 367482710 WDF-7261 (SSB & VHF) > Doing The Great Loop Onboard M/Y ALLEZ! > MTOA 2631 AGLCA 1969, WRCC, USCG-ARC USPS > EMail: my_allez@yahoo.com > > From: Greg Han - Allegria <hangreg@gmail.com> > To: Great Loop <great-loop@lists.trawlering.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 11:54 AM > Subject: GL: Remington factory tour closed, Illion, Ny > > > If you stop at Illion on the erie canal to see the factory tour at > Remington Arms. it has been cancelled permanently. > The museum is still there. They have a nice film that shows the > manufacture of several long guns. It's amazing to see the skill and > technology in making a rifle. > > Gregory Han > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > _______________________________________________ > > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > -- Joe Pica Carolyn Ann GH N-37 MTOA #3813, AGLCA #5485 http://carolynann-n37.blogspot.com/

Joe: I got the idea from the receptionist at the Muesum that the factory tours got discontinued a few years ago. All the reason you mentioned make sense to me. Also their is a rumor Remington might move out of the state of New York due to the unfavorable attitude the State of New York is generating toward Guns. As you know it is a very old facility they are in and who knows maybe a new plant in a new area with some enticing tax breaks some other state may lure Remington away from New York.     Safe Cruising Bob Lying Bonnie Castle Yacht Basin, Alexandria Bay New York 1000 Island Area. Capt Bob Kovach KJ4UGE    MMSI: 367482710  WDF-7261 (SSB & VHF) Doing The Great Loop Onboard M/Y ALLEZ!    MTOA 2631 AGLCA 1969, WRCC, USCG-ARC USPS  EMail: my_allez@yahoo.com From: Joseph Pica <joseph.pica@gmail.com> To: MY ALLEZ <my_allez@yahoo.com> Cc: Greg Han - Allegria <hangreg@gmail.com>; Great Loop List Serve <great-loop@lists.trawlering.com> Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 9:46 AM Subject: Re: GL: Remington factory tour closed, Illion, Ny I greatly enjoyed the tour and am sorry it has been shutdown but not surprised.  My guess is that liability concerns was the primary reason for stopping the tours. We were walked thru an operating factory with heavy equipment (many moving metal parts) within an easy arms reach.   In many places there were just minimal  physical barriers(fence/guards) between us the the operating machinery.  In other locations just a yellow line on the floor and a caution to not touch anything.   With us on the tour were several young children generally unsupervised by their parents continually wanting to test "Darwin".  It is a shame but understandable.  Perhaps they can restructure it to mitigate the safety/liability issues and still permit the public to view this fascinating manufacturing process.   The Custom shop was particularly fascinating and the artistic skill of these gunsmiths amazing.   Joe "Carolyn Ann"  GH N-37 Platinum Looper  On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:53 AM, MY ALLEZ <my_allez@yahoo.com> wrote: The only thing closed at Remington is the "factory tour" we really enjoyed the beautiful mueseum and had a great time stopping there. Small world meeting Alegria in French Bay >in Clayton, N.Y. up here in 1000 Island area. Safe cruise back to Biscayne Bay >Greg. Temp here early this morning at Bonnie Castle Marina in Alexandria Bay >is 47 Deg F.  Visited Boldt Castle and Singer Castle and it was Great! Leaving for >Oswego and Winter Harbor Marina in Brewerton for Winter Haul out in a few weeks. >Then ALLEZ! crew will be wintering in Charleston, S.C. >  >Safe Cruising to All >  >Bob & Helen >Onboard ALLEZ! > >Capt Bob Kovach >KJ4UGE    MMSI: 367482710  WDF-7261 (SSB & VHF) >Doing The Great Loop Onboard M/Y ALLEZ!    >MTOA 2631 AGLCA 1969, WRCC, USCG-ARC USPS  >EMail: my_allez@yahoo.com > >From: Greg Han - Allegria <hangreg@gmail.com> >To: Great Loop <great-loop@lists.trawlering.com> >Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 11:54 AM >Subject: GL: Remington factory tour closed, Illion, Ny > > >If you stop at Illion on the erie canal to see the factory tour at Remington Arms. it has been cancelled permanently. >The museum is still there.  They have a nice film that shows the manufacture of several long guns. It's amazing to see the skill and technology in making a rifle. > >Gregory Han > > >_______________________________________________ >http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > >To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, >unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com >_______________________________________________ >http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > >To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, >unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > -- Joe Pica Carolyn Ann GH N-37 MTOA #3813, AGLCA #5485 http://carolynann-n37.blogspot.com/

The receptionist said they had a lot of protestors after sandy point tragedy. They even closed the museum for six months. Please do not start a political exchange here. This was just tourist information that I presented as neutrally as possible. Greg Han >> >> >> If you stop at Illion on the erie canal to see the factory tour at Remington Arms. it has been cancelled permanently. >> The museum is still there. They have a nice film that shows the manufacture of several long guns. It's amazing to see the skill and technology in making a rifle. >> >> Gregory Han >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com >> >> To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, >> unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com >> _______________________________________________ >> http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com >> >> To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, >> unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > > > -- > Joe Pica > Carolyn Ann GH N-37 > MTOA #3813, AGLCA #5485 > http://carolynann-n37.blogspot.com/