Rich what you need to experience us the wake of a container shop about 5 mikes from You and 10 Mikes past you Some of them are huge and if your not paying attention and take it on the beam you will know it Bob Kovach Sent from my iPhone Chief Engineer Bob Kovach (KJ4UGE) Onboard M/Y ALLEZ! GOLD LOOPER 5-2-2016 MTOA2631, USCG-CWOA, WRCC, AGLCA-1979, USPS CHARLESTON, S.C.