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Why is it that all my friends use no virus protection, or perhaps use one
of the free ones? They are all constantly sending me virus emails and
their computers are all infected.
About 15 years ago, before I had virus protection, I managed to infect my
girlfriend's computer at work, which spread to every computer at City Hall,
over 50 of them.. And I sent it to my employee and wound up sitting in her
apartment for 3 evenings until I was able to get the little booger off her
machine. Lotta folks were hating me back in those days!
Please, everybody! Modern viruses will steal your bank account passwords
and send them to some hacker in Russia and then you will be broke as well
as infected. The free virus checkers only look for a few old viruses that
are no longer very common, and they miss completely all the recent ones.
Every now and then you'll get a virus alert warning from someone, telling
you what email not to open. Those are always 6 months too late, and half
the time those actual email warnings are themselves infected.
If your virus protection doesn't update daily at least, you have nothing,
and one day you will start your computer and get nothing but a blank screen
and an empty bank account.
I heartily recommend "Norton Anti-Virus", from Symantec.com . It costs
about 40 bucks a year and worth every cent.
It updates every few hours at least, and has kept me uninfected ever since
I got it, 15 years ago. Don't leave home without it!
Fred
Tug 44
From: "Ron Rogers" rcrogers6@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 2:38 PM
To: "Roly Pare" rolypare@hotmail.com, great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: SPAM-HIGH: Re: GL: incredible [BEWARE]
According to T&T List admin, there is a virus waiting for you on the
referenced server. On T&T the title of the message was "wow".
Ron Rogers
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Microsoft Security Essentials is a very good antivirus program - FREE.
R.
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Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 3:10 PM
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Subject: GL: Viruses
Why is it that all my friends use no virus protection, or perhaps use one of
the free ones? They are all constantly sending me virus emails and their
computers are all infected.
About 15 years ago, before I had virus protection, I managed to infect my
girlfriend's computer at work, which spread to every computer at City Hall,
over 50 of them.. And I sent it to my employee and wound up sitting in her
apartment for 3 evenings until I was able to get the little booger off her
machine. Lotta folks were hating me back in those days!
Please, everybody! Modern viruses will steal your bank account passwords
and send them to some hacker in Russia and then you will be broke as well as
infected. The free virus checkers only look for a few old viruses that are
no longer very common, and they miss completely all the recent ones.
Every now and then you'll get a virus alert warning from someone, telling
you what email not to open. Those are always 6 months too late, and half
the time those actual email warnings are themselves infected.
If your virus protection doesn't update daily at least, you have nothing,
and one day you will start your computer and get nothing but a blank screen
and an empty bank account.
I heartily recommend "Norton Anti-Virus", from Symantec.com . It costs
about 40 bucks a year and worth every cent.
It updates every few hours at least, and has kept me uninfected ever since I
got it, 15 years ago. Don't leave home without it!
Fred
Tug 44
From: "Ron Rogers" rcrogers6@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 2:38 PM
To: "Roly Pare" rolypare@hotmail.com, great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: SPAM-HIGH: Re: GL: incredible [BEWARE]
According to T&T List admin, there is a virus waiting for you on the
referenced server. On T&T the title of the message was "wow".
Ron Rogers
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Or, you could deep six the Evil Empire and use a Mac...really.
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On Jan 2, 2012, at 1:59 PM, "Ralph Yost" ralph@alphacompservices.com wrote:
Microsoft Security Essentials is a very good antivirus program - FREE.
R.
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[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of fred@tug44.org
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 3:10 PM
To: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: GL: Viruses
Why is it that all my friends use no virus protection, or perhaps use one of
the free ones? They are all constantly sending me virus emails and their
computers are all infected.
About 15 years ago, before I had virus protection, I managed to infect my
girlfriend's computer at work, which spread to every computer at City Hall,
over 50 of them.. And I sent it to my employee and wound up sitting in her
apartment for 3 evenings until I was able to get the little booger off her
machine. Lotta folks were hating me back in those days!
Please, everybody! Modern viruses will steal your bank account passwords
and send them to some hacker in Russia and then you will be broke as well as
infected. The free virus checkers only look for a few old viruses that are
no longer very common, and they miss completely all the recent ones.
Every now and then you'll get a virus alert warning from someone, telling
you what email not to open. Those are always 6 months too late, and half
the time those actual email warnings are themselves infected.
If your virus protection doesn't update daily at least, you have nothing,
and one day you will start your computer and get nothing but a blank screen
and an empty bank account.
I heartily recommend "Norton Anti-Virus", from Symantec.com . It costs
about 40 bucks a year and worth every cent.
It updates every few hours at least, and has kept me uninfected ever since I
got it, 15 years ago. Don't leave home without it!
Fred
Tug 44
From: "Ron Rogers" rcrogers6@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 2:38 PM
To: "Roly Pare" rolypare@hotmail.com, great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: SPAM-HIGH: Re: GL: incredible [BEWARE]
According to T&T List admin, there is a virus waiting for you on the
referenced server. On T&T the title of the message was "wow".
Ron Rogers
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Agreed that everyone a virus protection.
One that is free but a bit limited is Avast. They have a free Anti- Virus
and a pay Anti - Virus. The free one is good but after using it for a
couple of years I have gone over to the pay system. In fact I just renewed
it today. They had a deal for previous customers at $69 for two years on a
renewal. I have never had a problem.
Spy ware or Malware is another issue and I use Skybot (also free) and it
will search your system for Malware.
Vinny
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-----Original Message-----
From: great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com
[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of fred@tug44.org
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 3:10 PM
To: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: GL: Viruses
Why is it that all my friends use no virus protection, or perhaps use one of
the free ones? They are all constantly sending me virus emails and their
computers are all infected.
About 15 years ago, before I had virus protection, I managed to infect my
girlfriend's computer at work, which spread to every computer at City Hall,
over 50 of them.. And I sent it to my employee and wound up sitting in her
apartment for 3 evenings until I was able to get the little booger off her
machine. Lotta folks were hating me back in those days!
Please, everybody! Modern viruses will steal your bank account passwords
and send them to some hacker in Russia and then you will be broke as well as
infected. The free virus checkers only look for a few old viruses that are
no longer very common, and they miss completely all the recent ones.
Every now and then you'll get a virus alert warning from someone, telling
you what email not to open. Those are always 6 months too late, and half
the time those actual email warnings are themselves infected.
If your virus protection doesn't update daily at least, you have nothing,
and one day you will start your computer and get nothing but a blank screen
and an empty bank account.
I heartily recommend "Norton Anti-Virus", from Symantec.com . It costs
about 40 bucks a year and worth every cent.
It updates every few hours at least, and has kept me uninfected ever since I
got it, 15 years ago. Don't leave home without it!
Fred
Tug 44
From: "Ron Rogers" rcrogers6@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 2:38 PM
To: "Roly Pare" rolypare@hotmail.com, great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: SPAM-HIGH: Re: GL: incredible [BEWARE]
According to T&T List admin, there is a virus waiting for you on the
referenced server. On T&T the title of the message was "wow".
Ron Rogers
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I'm sorry to say that Avast!, a paid version, let me down badly when I
over-nighted in a university environment. I was invaded by 4 different
viruses, 2 of which were found, after the fact, by Avast! So, I got the free
version of AVG and it found the remaining Trojan horses and removed them. I
am now sticking with AVG. I had left Norton because home users used to get
updated once a week and Avast! did it as problems arose - daily at least.
Now Norton does it daily, but so does AVG. BTW, one of those viruses
destroyed a file which serves as a link between Microsoft applications and
your spreadsheets. Never recovered them.
Ron Rogers
I will tell you this - the new strain of root kit virus' can get past every
one of these antivirus programs.
Detecting and removing a root kit virus is NOT trivial.
The bad guys don't just sit around idle. They are intelligent and look for
newer capabilities and opportunities. Once a capability is developed, it can
be distributed in the bad guy community quickly.
Go read about Firesheep, for example. This explanation is not nearly as
complete as it should be. Firesheep does way more than this now but this is
how it started.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firesheep
And this is where the boater really needs to take heed -
Using "open" wireless networks, REGARDLESS of which computer you are using
(Max, Windoze, Linux, etc) exposes you to the same vulnerability. You need
to protect yourself about HOW you connect over public WiFi from marinas,
stores, libraries, etc.
The Firesheep program allows even the dumbest hacker to grab your login
credentials for numerous popular web sites - Facebook, Twitter, Ebay,
PayPal, etc.
Here is a list of sites that Firesheep has been tested with
https://github.com/codebutler/firesheep/wiki/Handlers
In the first 8 months since it was released FOR FREE on the web, over 1
million copies have been downloaded.
Now think about WHO are the people who downloaded this and what their
intentions are.....
R.
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[mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Ron Rogers
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:10 AM
To: 'Vincent Chianese'; fred@tug44.org; great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: GL: Viruses
I'm sorry to say that Avast!, a paid version, let me down badly when I
over-nighted in a university environment. I was invaded by 4 different
viruses, 2 of which were found, after the fact, by Avast! So, I got the free
version of AVG and it found the remaining Trojan horses and removed them. I
am now sticking with AVG. I had left Norton because home users used to get
updated once a week and Avast! did it as problems arose - daily at least.
Now Norton does it daily, but so does AVG. BTW, one of those viruses
destroyed a file which serves as a link between Microsoft applications and
your spreadsheets. Never recovered them.
Ron Rogers
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