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I am an ex sailboater and wanna be trawlerman who has done the waterway multiple times. In our sailboat, inland from Cape May thru NJ was not an option and we always went outside. Base on what I have read in these recent blogs, the inland trip in anything drawing 4' or more would not be an enjoyable trip.
Wondering why trawlers do not consider going outside?
Second part of my learning the "ways of the trawler" is why the admonition to not try shallow water if you have two engines?
Any info that would help me understand these issues would be greatly appreciated as I plan to join you trawler guys some day.
Jim Elsevier
With a single-engined trawler, you have a keel to provide at least a little protection for your prop and rudder. That protection is not present with two sets of propulsion and steering gear.
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Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 09:51:55 -0700
From: captjim@rocketmail.com
To: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: GL: NJ-ICW
I am an ex sailboater and wanna be trawlerman who has done the waterway multiple times. In our sailboat, inland from Cape May thru NJ was not an option and we always went outside. Base on what I have read in these recent blogs, the inland trip in anything drawing 4' or more would not be an enjoyable trip.
Wondering why trawlers do not consider going outside?
Second part of my learning the "ways of the trawler" is why the admonition to not try shallow water if you have two engines?
Any info that would help me understand these issues would be greatly appreciated as I plan to join you trawler guys some day.
Jim Elsevier
Just to make a correction to the admonition to avoid doing the shallow
waters in a twin engine trawler. I assume that is out of concern that most
have exposed unprotected shafts, struts and props prone to extensive
damage in a grounding. That isn't necessarily applicable to all twin
engine trawlers as some have keel protected props with no exposed shafts
and no struts. e.g. Great Harbours. that can sit on the bottom without
touching any running gear or rudders.
--
Joe Pica
Carolyn Ann GH N-37
MTOA #3813, AGLCA #5485
http://carolynann-n37.blogspot.com/
I would guess that most true trawlers do go outside. Inside is a longer
trip, but you get to do some sight-seeing that you would miss otherwise
by going outside. Once you're gone inside to see the sights, there's
little reason to do it again as a sight-seeing cruise IMHO, but
certainly a route to consider if weather outside is an issue (that's the
only reason we've gone inside once in our dozen or so trips through the
area). Even then, drawing four feet, wouldn't ever consider Cape May to
Atlantic City inside.
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On 5/29/2014 12:51 PM, Jim Elsevier wrote:
Wondering why trawlers do not
consider going outside?
We have twin engines and a keel that goes below both props. Our keel will hit first.
We never touched anything on the NJ ICW two weeks ago and we draw 4 ft + .
Steve and Gina Smith
M/V Island Time
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On May 29, 2014, at 1:01 PM, D C Mac Macdonald k2gkk@hotmail.com wrote:
With a single-engined trawler, you have a keel to provide at least a little protection for your prop and rudder. That protection is not present with two sets of propulsion and steering gear.
** D C "Mac" Macdonald **
- Grand Lake & OKC - OK *
** AGLCA (#217) & USPS ** -
- (no current boat) * *
** USAF & FAA, Retired **
** Amateur Radio K2GKK **
- (no current boat) * *
-
- Since 30 Nov 1953 * *
- k2gkk hotmail dot com *
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 09:51:55 -0700
From: captjim@rocketmail.com
To: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: GL: NJ-ICW
I am an ex sailboater and wanna be trawlerman who has done the waterway multiple times. In our sailboat, inland from Cape May thru NJ was not an option and we always went outside. Base on what I have read in these recent blogs, the inland trip in anything drawing 4' or more would not be an enjoyable trip.
Wondering why trawlers do not consider going outside?
Second part of my learning the "ways of the trawler" is why the admonition to not try shallow water if you have two engines?
Any info that would help me understand these issues would be greatly appreciated as I plan to join you trawler guys some day.
Jim Elsevier
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Maybe that's what draws me to do the inside NJ ICW. Bad weather is just an
excuse for me to make that choice. I love the challenge. There is nothing
unsafe about it but there is certainly a challenge at various levels.
R.
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I would guess that most true trawlers do go outside. Inside is a longer
trip, but you get to do some sight-seeing that you would miss otherwise by
going outside. Once you're gone inside to see the sights, there's little
reason to do it again as a sight-seeing cruise IMHO, but certainly a route
to consider if weather outside is an issue (that's the only reason we've
gone inside once in our dozen or so trips through the area). Even then,
drawing four feet, wouldn't ever consider Cape May to Atlantic City inside.
<><><><><><><><><><><><>Mozilla Thunderbird<><><><><><><><><><>
Bob McLeran and Judy Young Manatee Cove Marina