Somewhere along the line, I learned/heard/read that ONE means "I intend to LEAVE you on my port side" and TWO means "I intend to LEAVE you on my starboard side." A bit obtuse, but it applies for both opposing AND same direction passing. * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** D C "Mac" Macdonald ** * Grand Lake & OKC - OK * ** AGLCA (#217) & USPS ** ** USAF & FAA, Retired ** ** Amateur Radio K2GKK ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * p.s. Cool about your conning the Iowa into NYC harbor, Rich! > From: richgano@gmail.com > To: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com > Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 09:48:06 -0600 > Subject: Re: GL: Fwd: RE: 4 Whistle / Horn Signal > > "I have found that new and old boaters alike more easily remember that One > for Port and Left (both short words) and that Two for Starboard and Right > (both longer words) is easier to remember than One means steer to Starboard > or right and Two means steer to Port or left." > > I am sure it is of little use to non-USN/USCG experienced people, but I > always remember the number of whistle blasts to sound in meeting and > overtaking situations inland and when in sight of another vessel in > international waters as they relate to hull compartment numbering systems. > Compartments to starboard of centerline end in an odd number while those to > port end in an even number - odd to starboard and even to port. If I am > required to move my rudder right, I am heading toward the odd side, meaning > one whistle. Opposite for port. > > Here are a few good points to remember: > > Many of us cross the Demarcation Line between Inland and International > COLREGS regularly. Loopers coming to either the Gulf or the Atlantic coast > from inland rivers need to pay close attention. > > In INLAND waters these one and two blast meeting signals are not required > for distances between vessels of more than 1/2 mile; it's "within sight" in > international waters. > > The one and two blast signals in Inland Rules indicate INTENTION while the > same signals indicate ACTION in International rules. > > Three blasts in Inland Rules indicate astern MOVEMENT of the vessel while > the same signal indicates the arrangement of the machinery in International > rules (big vessels take a long time to actually move astern, but steerage is > quickly lost once the prop, especially single screw vessels, starts rotating > astern). So a large vessel in Inland waters may have a significant delay > between shifting to astern propulsion and the actual sounding of the > three-whistle signal indicating he is actually moving astern. > > When overtaking signals are sounded in Inland the agreement is supposed to > come back as the same signal. When the overtaken vessel in International > waters agrees to be overtaken, the signal is prolonged-short-prolonged-short > (Morse for "Charlie"). Oddly, the Inland rule does not mention narrow > channels (the 1/2 mile rule mentioned before remains in effect) while the > International rules does. > > Nowhere have I found the Inland rule of 1/2 mile for sounding passing > signals defined as either a nautical mile or a statute mile. > > Rich Gano > Calypso (GB42 Hull # 295) > Panama City area, FL

Wouldn't that would be just the opposite of what has been recently posted on the list, where it has been stated that one means "I intend to pass you on YOUR PORT side" and two means "I intend to pass you on YOUR STARBOARD side?" <><><><><><><><><><><><>Mozilla Thunderbird<><><><><><><><><><> Bob McLeran and Judy Young Manatee Cove Marina MV Sanderling Patrick Air Force Base DeFever 41 Trawler Melbourne, Florida Blog: http://sanderling2011.blogspot.com/ Pics: http://tinyurl.com/yjx2vky& http://tinyurl.com/yhxjvas Web: http://cruising.mvsanderling.net/ On 1/30/2012 11:01 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote: > Somewhere along the line, I learned/heard/read that ONE means > "I intend to LEAVE you on my port side" and TWO means "I intend > to LEAVE you on my starboard side." > > A bit obtuse, but it applies for both opposing AND same direction > passing.

Bob: What you quote applies only to meeting situations. What Mac says applies in both meeting and overtaking situations. Bill At 11:57 AM 1/30/2012, Bob McLeran wrote: >Wouldn't that would be just the opposite of what has been recently >posted on the list, where it has been stated that one means "I >intend to pass you on YOUR PORT side" and two means "I intend to >pass you on YOUR STARBOARD side?" > ><><><><><><><><><><><><>Mozilla Thunderbird<><><><><><><><><><> >Bob McLeran and Judy Young Manatee Cove Marina >MV Sanderling Patrick Air Force Base >DeFever 41 Trawler Melbourne, Florida >Blog: http://sanderling2011.blogspot.com/ >Pics: http://tinyurl.com/yjx2vky& http://tinyurl.com/yhxjvas >Web: http://cruising.mvsanderling.net/ > > >On 1/30/2012 11:01 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote: >>Somewhere along the line, I learned/heard/read that ONE means >>"I intend to LEAVE you on my port side" and TWO means "I intend >>to LEAVE you on my starboard side." >> >>A bit obtuse, but it applies for both opposing AND same direction >>passing. ...snip...

Mea Culpa! I totally misread Mac's post here to mean just the opposite of what he meant and intended. His rule is essentially a restatement of what was posted earlier. The rule (one on my port side; two on my starboard side) is an easy one to remember (as the earlier poster pointed out) because the words "one" and "port" both have one syllable, etc. I need something really easy to remember when meeting a huge car carrier in the C&D Canal that only leaves 10 feet of navigable water surface on either side!!! Again, sorry to have caused any confusion. <><><><><><><><><><><><>Mozilla Thunderbird<><><><><><><><><><> Bob McLeran and Judy Young Manatee Cove Marina MV Sanderling Patrick Air Force Base DeFever 41 Trawler Melbourne, Florida Blog: http://sanderling2011.blogspot.com/ Pics: http://tinyurl.com/yjx2vky& http://tinyurl.com/yhxjvas Web: http://cruising.mvsanderling.net/ On 1/30/2012 11:01 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote: > Somewhere along the line, I learned/heard/read that ONE means > "I intend to LEAVE you on my port side" and TWO means "I intend > to LEAVE you on my starboard side." > > A bit obtuse, but it applies for both opposing AND same direction > passing. > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * > ** D C "Mac" Macdonald ** > * Grand Lake& OKC - OK * > ** AGLCA (#217)& USPS ** > ** USAF& FAA, Retired ** > ** Amateur Radio K2GKK ** > * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > p.s. Cool about your conning the Iowa into NYC harbor, Rich! > > > >> From: richgano@gmail.com >> To: great-loop@lists.trawlering.com >> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 09:48:06 -0600 >> Subject: Re: GL: Fwd: RE: 4 Whistle / Horn Signal >> >> "I have found that new and old boaters alike more easily remember that One >> for Port and Left (both short words) and that Two for Starboard and Right >> (both longer words) is easier to remember than One means steer to Starboard >> or right and Two means steer to Port or left." >> >> I am sure it is of little use to non-USN/USCG experienced people, but I >> always remember the number of whistle blasts to sound in meeting and >> overtaking situations inland and when in sight of another vessel in >> international waters as they relate to hull compartment numbering systems. >> Compartments to starboard of centerline end in an odd number while those to >> port end in an even number - odd to starboard and even to port. If I am >> required to move my rudder right, I am heading toward the odd side, meaning >> one whistle. Opposite for port. >> >> Here are a few good points to remember: >> >> Many of us cross the Demarcation Line between Inland and International >> COLREGS regularly. Loopers coming to either the Gulf or the Atlantic coast >> from inland rivers need to pay close attention. >> >> In INLAND waters these one and two blast meeting signals are not required >> for distances between vessels of more than 1/2 mile; it's "within sight" in >> international waters. >> >> The one and two blast signals in Inland Rules indicate INTENTION while the >> same signals indicate ACTION in International rules. >> >> Three blasts in Inland Rules indicate astern MOVEMENT of the vessel while >> the same signal indicates the arrangement of the machinery in International >> rules (big vessels take a long time to actually move astern, but steerage is >> quickly lost once the prop, especially single screw vessels, starts rotating >> astern). So a large vessel in Inland waters may have a significant delay >> between shifting to astern propulsion and the actual sounding of the >> three-whistle signal indicating he is actually moving astern. >> >> When overtaking signals are sounded in Inland the agreement is supposed to >> come back as the same signal. When the overtaken vessel in International >> waters agrees to be overtaken, the signal is prolonged-short-prolonged-short >> (Morse for "Charlie"). Oddly, the Inland rule does not mention narrow >> channels (the 1/2 mile rule mentioned before remains in effect) while the >> International rules does. >> >> Nowhere have I found the Inland rule of 1/2 mile for sounding passing >> signals defined as either a nautical mile or a statute mile. >> >> Rich Gano >> Calypso (GB42 Hull # 295) >> Panama City area, FL > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/options/great-loop_lists.trawlering.com >