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FS: HP 5328a

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Javier Serrano
Thu, Aug 18, 2011 10:55 PM

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Bruce Griffiths <
bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

CERN make all the required DDMTD  VHDL code freely available.

Voilà:
http://www.ohwr.org/projects/wr-cores/repository/revisions/master/changes/modules/timing/dmtd_with_deglitcher.vhd
It is not terribly complicated. The trickiest part is the deglitching at the
output of the flip-flop.

Cheers,

Javier

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Bruce Griffiths < bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > > CERN make all the required DDMTD VHDL code freely available. > > Voilà: http://www.ohwr.org/projects/wr-cores/repository/revisions/master/changes/modules/timing/dmtd_with_deglitcher.vhd It is not terribly complicated. The trickiest part is the deglitching at the output of the flip-flop. Cheers, Javier
JH
Javier Herrero
Thu, Aug 18, 2011 11:15 PM

Hi,

El 19/08/2011 00:28, Tijd Dingen escribió:

Generally speaking, any ADC approach that uses /affordable/ ADC's (read: no GHz sampling rates) will result in lower number of timestamps per second than with the TDC in fpga approach.

I know, I know :) As I said, first I'm looking around the different
techniques, advantages, disadvantages... I would like to know if the ADC
approach has other advantages

So if you only have to timestamp at a moderate rate, then the adc could very well suit your needs. If you want to do continuous timestamping at a high rate then the adc approach doesn't cut it. Or if it can, I'd be interested in some good reading material about that...

My main current application is jitter measurement and characterization,
so a moderate rate could be enough (but the greater the rate, the
better, of course :) ), but I prefer in this case, higher precission
more than higher rate.

Besides with the fpga approach it is solve problem once, instantiate many times == multi-channel TDC for a nice price.

Of course :)

Regards,

Javier

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Hi, El 19/08/2011 00:28, Tijd Dingen escribió: > > Generally speaking, any ADC approach that uses /affordable/ ADC's (read: no GHz sampling rates) will result in lower number of timestamps per second than with the TDC in fpga approach. I know, I know :) As I said, first I'm looking around the different techniques, advantages, disadvantages... I would like to know if the ADC approach has other advantages > > > So if you only have to timestamp at a moderate rate, then the adc could very well suit your needs. If you want to do continuous timestamping at a high rate then the adc approach doesn't cut it. Or if it can, I'd be interested in some good reading material about that... > My main current application is jitter measurement and characterization, so a moderate rate could be enough (but the greater the rate, the better, of course :) ), but I prefer in this case, higher precission more than higher rate. > Besides with the fpga approach it is solve problem once, instantiate many times == multi-channel TDC for a nice price. Of course :) Regards, Javier -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Javier Herrero Chief Technology Officer EMAIL: jherrero@hvsistemas.com HV Sistemas S.L. PHONE: +34 949 336 806 Los Charcones, 17 FAX: +34 949 336 792 19170 El Casar - Guadalajara - Spain WEB: http://www.hvsistemas.com
JH
Javier Herrero
Thu, Aug 18, 2011 11:17 PM

Thanks for the links, Javier!

Will have a look at it asap.

Regards,

Javier

El 19/08/2011 00:55, Javier Serrano escribió:

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Bruce Griffiths<
bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz>  wrote:

CERN make all the required DDMTD  VHDL code freely available.

Voilà:
http://www.ohwr.org/projects/wr-cores/repository/revisions/master/changes/modules/timing/dmtd_with_deglitcher.vhd
It is not terribly complicated. The trickiest part is the deglitching at the
output of the flip-flop.

Cheers,

Javier


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Thanks for the links, Javier! Will have a look at it asap. Regards, Javier El 19/08/2011 00:55, Javier Serrano escribió: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Bruce Griffiths< > bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > >> >> CERN make all the required DDMTD VHDL code freely available. >> >> > Voilà: > http://www.ohwr.org/projects/wr-cores/repository/revisions/master/changes/modules/timing/dmtd_with_deglitcher.vhd > It is not terribly complicated. The trickiest part is the deglitching at the > output of the flip-flop. > > Cheers, > > Javier > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Javier Herrero Chief Technology Officer EMAIL: jherrero@hvsistemas.com HV Sistemas S.L. PHONE: +34 949 336 806 Los Charcones, 17 FAX: +34 949 336 792 19170 El Casar - Guadalajara - Spain WEB: http://www.hvsistemas.com
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Chris Albertson
Sun, Aug 21, 2011 1:33 AM

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:24 PM, steve heidmann steveheidmann@yahoo.comwrote:

Gee , I think under $50 puts it in the "free to a good home catagory"
Complainers should get a life!.

The seller had two.  I bought one.  Plenty of good parts inside if you
already have a (mostly) working unit.  Then after I strip it,  the chassis
itself is useful for some other home brew project.    HP used a very general
purpose chassis that is adaptable to user uses.

Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:24 PM, steve heidmann <steveheidmann@yahoo.com>wrote: > Gee , I think under $50 puts it in the "free to a good home catagory" > Complainers should get a life!. The seller had two. I bought one. Plenty of good parts inside if you already have a (mostly) working unit. Then after I strip it, the chassis itself is useful for some other home brew project. HP used a very general purpose chassis that is adaptable to user uses. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California