Just some clarification from a European point of view. Since January 2006 the amended European Recreational Craft Directive 2003/44/EC became applicable this means that all craft PLACED on the European market (including its 70 overseas territories, such as many Carribean islands) need to comply with this amended directive. The amendemend also include requirements on noise and emission. You are still allowed to VISIT European countries but if you want to sell your boat in a European Country you will have to comply with the directive. The noise requirements are normally not applicable to displacements boats. The International ISO standard applicable to emission are very similar to the American requirements and in most cases the American exhaust emission will be accepted. Do not hesitate to contact me for more clarification on European requirements. Peter Jacops European Certification Bureau Melkhoutsingel 29 7806 Houtbay South Africa www.marinesurvey.co.za info@marinesurvey.co.za skype: ecbzuidafrika tel: 021 790 5905 ----- Original Message ----- From: <passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com> To: <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:00 AM Subject: Passagemaking-Under-Power Digest, Vol 24, Issue 9 > Send Passagemaking-Under-Power mailing list submissions to > passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > passagemaking-under-power-owner@lists.samurai.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Passagemaking-Under-Power digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Non EPA compliance diesels (Dave Cooper) > 2. Re: Non EPA compliance diesels (Robert Phillips) > 3. Re: Non EPA compliance diesels (Al Thomason) > 4. Re: Non EPA compliance diesels (John Harris) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 07:35:16 -0400 > From: "Dave Cooper" <swansong@gmn-usa.com> > Subject: Re: [PUP] Non EPA compliance diesels > To: <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> > Message-ID: <003301c70bce$c8f49870$7d01a8c0@Dell> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > <Bob wrote: ....Our last several entries into Pensacola was a cell phone > call in on arrival and "come to the office in a few days" type of entry> > > > > Ah yes Bob, but the times are changing. Our last entry into the US, in St > John, USVI, requires all persons on board to come to the > Customs/Immigration > dock at the same time. In other words you must anchor somewhere and come > in > by dinghy as there's no space for a big private boat to dock. They then > may > or may not ask you to bring the boat to the dock for further inspection or > send a guy. > > > > Not to long ago a crew list and the captain was all that was required. > Before that just the phone call. And before that basically nothing. So I > see > a pattern of escalation here as to what the US Customs/Immigration want to > check for. > > > > In St Martin there was no check-in/out till a few years ago. Now they need > an incoming Zarpe, a ton of questions and are also randomly checking the > boats entering in person. > > > > I'm not trying to alarm anyone but I do see that various countries are > changing clearance procedures to include searches and checks for many > things > that were un-heard of 3 or 4 years ago. For the US or the EU to add > emissions to the list isn't far off, IMO. > > > > BTW, the fees for clearing in/out have also dramatically jumped..gee > another > source of revenue ;-). The cost of running the Caribbean Island > jurisdictions (about 15 entities) from Venezuela to the USVI was in the > order of $100.00 total back in the early 80's and took no more than a few > moments of your time. Now it runs $1500 and can be as much as 2000 if you > catch the wrong person on duty. Today you'd better figure a weeks worth of > time just for clearing procedures! > > > > As always, YMMV > > > > Dave & Nancy > > Swan Song > > Roughwater 58 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 10:00:56 -0400 > From: Robert Phillips <bob@doylecaribbean.com> > Subject: Re: [PUP] Non EPA compliance diesels > To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com > Message-ID: <0df3e0621578fc09de88f426a1950d9a@doylecaribbean.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > What is absurd is that you can clear into Puerto Rico and you are > cleared for the rest of the US, so long as you don't stop in a foreign > country in between. On my last trip from Lauderdale to Tortola I went > non-stop down the Old Bahama Channel to San Juan, called Customs and > was asked why I was calling if I didn't stop anywhere; I guess I must > sound like an honest person. So Dave, when you want to take that > smokey old Detroit into the US, try clearing in Ponce. > > Bob Phillips, > Another Asylum, Tortola, BVI > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 06:36:58 -0800 > From: "Al Thomason" <athomas@sns-access.com> > Subject: Re: [PUP] Non EPA compliance diesels > To: "Passagemaking Under Power List" > <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> > Message-ID: <03b101c70be8$2ded19a0$6424a8c0@ibmsld0wgptumu> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >> It's very easy for customs to check. Walk into the ER and look for the >> tag...No tag no entry. > > Humm... I can not find any such an EPA tag on my Cummins 6B, wonder how > that in an extreme would be dealt with. Perhaps had best not leave the > USA > if I wanted to come back??? :-) > > -al- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 15:08:42 -0000 > From: "John Harris" <JohnPH@Comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [PUP] Non EPA compliance diesels > To: "Passagemaking Under Power List" > <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> > Message-ID: <001601c70bec$9f7dfd10$3501c80a@JPHDell> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > This topic has started with the assumption that if there is a rule it will > be enforced, I would suggest that only a little over have of the rules, > regulations, and laws that we have in the United States are enforced. > > If someone would like to start a list of non-enforced rules - just for > boating - I would be happy to add a few. > > John Harris > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List > > End of Passagemaking-Under-Power Digest, Vol 24, Issue 9 > ********************************************************