Re: [CT Birds] CTBirds Digest, Vol 2427, Issue 2
I'm new to birding outside my neighborhood & check in daily. I've learned a lot and look forward to learning more. This is the 1st time a lost has taken on a meaning that wsn't meant to be. I'm more shocked at the foolish banter that has continued through the past few days. Move on now! So many birds to track & we shouldn't prey on someones mistake.
Nancy.
Sent from my Droid GS3 phone.
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Today's Topics:
1. Fwd: Mallards (Dave Provencher)
2. Re: Fwd: Mallards (Jim Meinhold)
3. Re: Mallards (Dave Provencher)
4. Re: Fwd: Mallards (Barbara Garrett)
5. Re: Mallards (Dave Provencher)
6. Fwd: Mallards (Michael Richardson)
7. Mallard discussion closed, please (Roy Harvey)
8. Harkness Volunteer Day Story (Comins, Patrick)
9. NYTimes: Those Hazardous Flying Birds (Sailcarm)
Message: 1
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 05:54:31 -0700
From: Dave Provencher hikerbirder@gmail.com
To: "ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org" ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Subject: [CT Birds] Fwd: Mallards
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I think the previous post was meant satirically and was not malicious in
intent.
Dave
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 08:59:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Meinhold jmeinhol@optonline.net
To: Dave Provencher hikerbirder@gmail.com
Cc: "ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org" ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Fwd: Mallards
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You've got to be kidding. ?Anyone with a brain knows something like that
is NOT a joke.
Regards,
Jim Meinhold
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 08:54 AM, Dave Provencher wrote:
I think the previous post was meant satirically and was not malicious
in
intent.
Dave
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 06:03:51 -0700
From: Dave Provencher hikerbirder@gmail.com
To: Jim Meinhold jmeinhol@optonline.net
Cc: "ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org" ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Mallards
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I was speaking of intent, neither condemning or condoning, but thanks for
the insult.
On Friday, October 18, 2013, Jim Meinhold wrote:
You've got to be kidding. Anyone with a brain knows something like that
is NOT a joke.
Regards,
Jim Meinhold
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 08:54 AM, Dave Provencher wrote:
I think the previous post was meant satirically and was not malicious in
intent.
Dave
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 09:09:16 -0400
From: Barbara Garrett barbaragarrett@optonline.net
To: Shaun Martin birdj510@gmail.com, Michael Richardson
msr042377@gmail.com
Cc: ctbirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Fwd: Mallards
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A "joke" carries with it the same racist innuendo. There is ABSOLUTELY NO means by which this can be construed as acceptable or permissible in any public, and for that matter private, forum. At 9am in the morning, I'm already disgusted, disappointed and ashamed as a citizen.
See today's Washington Post article on slavery: The United States, per capita, has a very low rate of slavery: just 0.02 percent, or one in every 5,000 people. But that adds up to a lot: an estimated 60,000 slaves, right here in America." http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/
Barbara
north Stamford
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From: Shaun Martin
To: Michael Richardson
Cc: ctbirds
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Fwd: Mallards
If this was an attempt at a joke, not funny in any manner. Hopefully it was
not meant how it came across...
On Oct 18, 2013 8:46 AM, "Michael Richardson" msr042377@gmail.com wrote:
> I think that's the most inappropriate comment I've ever heard on this
> mailing list. Deserving to be banned for life.
>
> -Michael
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> From: Paul Cianfaglione pgcianfaglione@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:42 AM
> Subject: [CT Birds] Mallards
> To: CT Lists ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
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>
> You learn something new everyday.... I use to think only "Black" ducks
> committed rape!
>
> Paul C
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 06:23:03 -0700
From: Dave Provencher hikerbirder@gmail.com
To: Barbara Garrett barbaragarrett@optonline.net
Cc: ctbirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Mallards
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I will state how I took it. I viewed it as a sarcastic slam against racists
who think blacks commit most crimes. Maybe I'm wrong, only the poster can
say. I also viewed it as a mistake to post. I also strongly believe if you
have an issue with a post you should contact the moderator directly, not
post to everyone. He has many years of experience handling these things and
has pretty darn good judgment. CTBirds is freer from public squabbles than
many forums and I believe most members would like to keep it that way.
On Friday, October 18, 2013, Barbara Garrett wrote:
A "joke" carries with it the same racist innuendo. There is ABSOLUTELY NO
means by which this can be construed as acceptable or permissible in any
public, and for that matter private, forum. At 9am in the morning, I'm
already disgusted, disappointed and ashamed as a citizen.
See today's Washington Post article on slavery: The United States, per
capita, has a very low rate of slavery: just 0.02 percent, or one in every
5,000 people. But that adds up to a lot: an estimated 60,000 slaves, right
here in America."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/
Barbara
north Stamford
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From: Shaun Martin
To: Michael Richardson
Cc: ctbirds
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Fwd: Mallards
If this was an attempt at a joke, not funny in any manner. Hopefully it
was
not meant how it came across...
On Oct 18, 2013 8:46 AM, "Michael Richardson" <msr042377@gmail.comjavascript:;>
wrote:
> I think that's the most inappropriate comment I've ever heard on this
> mailing list. Deserving to be banned for life.
>
> -Michael
>
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> Date: Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:42 AM
> Subject: [CT Birds] Mallards
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>
> You learn something new everyday.... I use to think only "Black" ducks
> committed rape!
>
> Paul C
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 09:29:17 -0400
From: Michael Richardson msr042377@gmail.com
To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Subject: [CT Birds] Fwd: Mallards
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If that is how you took it, then that is how you took it. It seems a lot
of other people took it differently. You seem to be unique in your support
of Paul. (I know you said you are not condemning or condoning it, but you
are definitely supporting him.) But I disagree about not posting the
feedback to everyone. For those who interpreted the comment as racist
bigotry, expressing those feelings publicly will help to discourage others
from making similar comments. Racism should not be hidden from public
view, it should be exposed and dealt with and talked about so that everyone
can learn from it.
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From: Dave Provencher hikerbirder@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Mallards
To: Barbara Garrett barbaragarrett@optonline.net
Cc: Shaun Martin birdj510@gmail.com, Michael Richardson <
msr042377@gmail.com>, ctbirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
I will state how I took it. I viewed it as a sarcastic slam against racists
who think blacks commit most crimes. Maybe I'm wrong, only the poster can
say. I also viewed it as a mistake to post. I also strongly believe if you
have an issue with a post you should contact the moderator directly, not
post to everyone. He has many years of experience handling these things and
has pretty darn good judgment. CTBirds is freer from public squabbles than
many forums and I believe most members would like to keep it that way.
On Friday, October 18, 2013, Barbara Garrett wrote:
A "joke" carries with it the same racist innuendo. There is ABSOLUTELY NO
means by which this can be construed as acceptable or permissible in any
public, and for that matter private, forum. At 9am in the morning, I'm
already disgusted, disappointed and ashamed as a citizen.
See today's Washington Post article on slavery: The United States, per
capita, has a very low rate of slavery: just 0.02 percent, or one in every
5,000 people. But that adds up to a lot: an estimated 60,000 slaves, right
here in America."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17/this-map-shows-where-the-worlds-30-million-slaves-live-there-are-60000-in-the-u-s/
Barbara
north Stamford
----- Original Message -----
From: Shaun Martin
To: Michael Richardson
Cc: ctbirds
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Fwd: Mallards
If this was an attempt at a joke, not funny in any manner. Hopefully it
was
not meant how it came across...
On Oct 18, 2013 8:46 AM, "Michael Richardson" msr042377@gmail.com
wrote:
> I think that's the most inappropriate comment I've ever heard on this
> mailing list. Deserving to be banned for life.
>
> -Michael
>
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> From: Paul Cianfaglione pgcianfaglione@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:42 AM
> Subject: [CT Birds] Mallards
> To: CT Lists ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
>
>
> You learn something new everyday.... I use to think only "Black" ducks
> committed rape!
>
> Paul C
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 06:44:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Roy Harvey rmharvey@snet.net
To: CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Subject: [CT Birds] Mallard discussion closed, please
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I am asking that, as Dave suggested, comments about the recent post by Paul be directed to the list administrator (that's me) and/or the COA officers or board.? You can be sure everyone is aware of what has been said so far.
One reason I ask this is to get CTBirds back to the discussion of birds.
Just as important, Paul can not currently defend or explain himselfon the list because his posts are being held.
Thank you for your consideration.
Roy Harvey
Beacon Falls, CT
Message: 8
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 14:23:54 +0000
From: "Comins, Patrick" PCOMINS@audubon.org
To: CT Birds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Subject: [CT Birds] Harkness Volunteer Day Story
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In order to help continue to build the relationship between the birding community and State Parks, Audubon arranged for a volunteer day at Harkness Memorial State Park last week. More than 60 volunteers from Dominion Energy, along with DEEP and Audubon Staff and Menunkatuck Audubon Society members, replaced two damaged Osprey Poles and performed other tasks around the park. I posted a slideshow of the event, along with some bird photos from the day here:
http://www.wxedge.com/articles/20131018rare_bird_great_audubon_volunteer_day
Patrick M. Comins
Director of Bird Conservation
Audubon Connecticut
185 East Flat Hill Road
Southbury, CT 06488
Phone: (203)264-5098 x308
Fax: (203)264-6332
pcomins@audubon.orgmailto:pcomins@audubon.org
http://ct.audubon.org/conservation-efforts
Audubon Connecticut is on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/AudubonCT
The Audubon Alliance for Coastal Waterbirds is on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Audubon-Alliance-for-Coastal-Waterbirds/168520783251234
Our blog: http://ctwaterbirds.blogspot.com/
Friends of Conte is on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Friends-of-the-Silvio-O-Conte-National-Fish-and-Wildlife-Refuge/121976791147545?v=wall
Message: 9
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 10:56:42 -0400
From: Sailcarm sailcarm@aol.com
To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Subject: [CT Birds] NYTimes: Those Hazardous Flying Birds
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Interesting article in the NYTimes online version this morn.
See link below.
Carolyn Cimino
We?re killing birds to keep planes safe, but it?s not really working. http://nyti.ms/1czAXJN