Dear Carl Goodman, I recently found out about the Mellon projects concerning documentation, and after viewing the webinars I wondered if this project can support a "research data managing system". The Mellon pilot projects in conservation documentation include also research data, e.g. Raphael Research Resource and the Rembrandt Database. Are you collaborating with those projects as well? Or are you just focussing on collection information? The reason for asking is mine internship at the Netherlands Institute for Cultural Heritage (ICN) and one of mine tasks is to find out in what sort of system and how you can present research data for a single object. I can imagine that the development of CollectionSpace-products could also be useful for research data, not just for various collections as you explained during the webinars. I look forward to your replay, *kind regards*, Marloes Kueter (Library and Information science student at the University of Amsterdam)

What kind of data are you thinking of? 

Is it structured metadata, or separate documents, or something else?

What do you want to be able to do with the data once you have it in

To what extent do you need to use traditional collections metadata

Hi Marloes - I'll jump in for Carl, and he can follow up if I miss something. I'm the co-technical lead for the services back-end, and also work with our partners here at UC Berkeley where we support many research collections. As a project, CollectionSpace has been tracking several peer projects including ConservationSpace, and we are committed to a good interoperation experience with ConservationSpace (although they must work with a variety of systems, and not just CollectionSpace). If your research information is related to the workflows and information management around conservation activities, it may make more sense to look closely at ConservationSpace. However, if you are looking at other types of research data, it may well make sense to consider CollectionSpace. Some questions that will help us know how to help: * What kind of data are you thinking of? * Is it structured metadata, or separate documents, or something else? * What do you want to be able to do with the data once you have it in a system? * To what extent do you need to use traditional collections metadata together with your research data? Last summer, I visited ICN offices in Amsterdam, and had a great discussion with Marie-France van Oorsouw and Cris Kremers there. We'd be happy to collaborate with ICN, and hope we can help you find a good solution for your needs. Patrick Patrick Schmitz Semantic Services Architect Services Architecture and Design Lead U.C. Berkeley IST/Data Services _____ From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf Of Marloes Kueter Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:55 AM To: talk@lists.collectionspace.org Cc: marloes.kueter@icn.nl Subject: [Talk] question about research data Dear Carl Goodman, I recently found out about the Mellon projects concerning documentation, and after viewing the webinars I wondered if this project can support a "research data managing system". The Mellon pilot projects in conservation documentation include also research data, e.g. Raphael Research Resource and the Rembrandt Database. Are you collaborating with those projects as well? Or are you just focussing on collection information? The reason for asking is mine internship at the Netherlands Institute for Cultural Heritage (ICN) and one of mine tasks is to find out in what sort of system and how you can present research data for a single object. I can imagine that the development of CollectionSpace-products could also be useful for research data, not just for various collections as you explained during the webinars. I look forward to your replay, kind regards, Marloes Kueter (Library and Information science student at the University of Amsterdam)

- What kind of data are you thinking of?
- Is it structured metadata, or separate documents, or something else?
- What do you want to be able to do with the data once you have it in a
system?
- To what extent do you need to use traditional collections metadata
together with your research data?

Dear Carl Goodman,

Hi Patrick, Thank you for your quick response! Maybe I should take a better look at ConservationSpace, but maybe you can help me out. To answer your questions: · The kind of data that is produced by researchers, mostly chemists: graphics, reports on conservation or specific treatments, images (detailed photography, microscopy, overall images (= stitched images)), annotations and results and maybe other data, that is still to discuss. · Separate documents and not really structured. · There are two systems: the one I'm working on is about the presentation of research data. After the research project is completed, the gathered information will be presented in a layer structure, in this case we used GIS software to link data to coordinates. To be clear: this is data about *one* object. The other project is about storing research data in a central database and it's not certain if it's possible or wanted to link the information of these two systems. · I am not sure what you mean with traditional collection metadata, so I don’t know if we want to link this data. I hope this is enough information for you to help me. The other thing I was thinking of, is not really about existing metadata for collections, but more what about if this CollectionSpace project will have a more ‘ResearchSpace’ content design. What I understood from the webinars is that your project is mainly a framework for collections to store and manage collection data, but can you use the framework for other kind of data? In other words: the plug-ins and application are designed for collections, but can you do the same for research data? Kind regards, Marloes 2009/11/5 Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> > Hi Marloes - > > I'll jump in for Carl, and he can follow up if I miss something. I'm the > co-technical lead for the services back-end, and also work with our partners > here at UC Berkeley where we support many research collections. As a > project, CollectionSpace has been tracking several peer projects including > ConservationSpace, and we are committed to a good interoperation experience > with ConservationSpace (although they must work with a variety of systems, > and not just CollectionSpace). > > If your research information is related to the workflows and information > management around conservation activities, it may make more sense to look > closely at ConservationSpace. However, if you are looking at other types of > research data, it may well make sense to consider CollectionSpace. > > Some questions that will help us know how to help: > > - What kind of data are you thinking of? > - Is it structured metadata, or separate documents, or something else? > - What do you want to be able to do with the data once you have it in a > system? > - To what extent do you need to use traditional collections metadata > together with your research data? > > Last summer, I visited ICN offices in Amsterdam, and had a great discussion > with Marie-France van Oorsouw and Cris Kremers there. We'd be happy to > collaborate with ICN, and hope we can help you find a good solution for your > needs. > > Patrick > > Patrick Schmitz > Semantic Services Architect > Services Architecture and Design Lead > U.C. Berkeley IST/Data Services > > ------------------------------ > *From:* talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org [mailto: > talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] *On Behalf Of *Marloes Kueter > *Sent:* Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:55 AM > *To:* talk@lists.collectionspace.org > *Cc:* marloes.kueter@icn.nl > *Subject:* [Talk] question about research data > > Dear Carl Goodman, > > I recently found out about the Mellon projects concerning documentation, > and after viewing the webinars I wondered if this project can support a > "research data managing system". > The Mellon pilot projects in conservation documentation include also > research data, e.g. Raphael Research Resource and the Rembrandt Database. > Are you collaborating with those projects as well? Or are you just focussing > on collection information? > The reason for asking is mine internship at the Netherlands Institute for > Cultural Heritage (ICN) and one of mine tasks is to find out in what sort of > system and how you can present research data for a single object. > > I can imagine that the development of CollectionSpace-products could also > be useful for research data, not just for various collections as you > explained during the webinars. > > > > I look forward to your replay, > *kind regards*, > Marloes Kueter > (Library and Information science student at the University of Amsterdam) > >