Re: [PCW] Catamaran stability

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Vozzella, Ed
Thu, Feb 23, 2006 5:03 PM

What was the name of the show and time slot that compared a mono to a cat
hull in high seas on the Discovery Channel? I am sure many of us would love
to see this episode.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark [mailto:mark424x@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:00 PM
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] Catamaran stability

It sounds as though the Dashews hold a hard requirement on capsize recovery.
Here they talk about building a cat for coastal cruising.  Sure would like
to see that design, but I'd bet it's big and pricey like their other boats.
Probably something like a Gunboat.

from http://www.setsail.com/s_logs/dashew/dashew210.html
"As                    some of you know, Linda and I courted on catamarans
and went                    on to design and build a series of
high-performance boats in                    the 60s and 70s. These were all
day sailors, although to us,                    once we had babies, they
were our "family cruisers". We're not                    fans of multihulls
for cruising offshore, but a modern fast                    cat, with modest
accommodations and lots of boat speed sounded                    like an
interesting approach for local sailing."

Dennis OConnor ad4hk2004@yahoo.com wrote: They wrote me that the
considered a catamaran,
but
discarded the idea due to "stability questions".


Having a cat go on it's back is a serious matter, though they usually
don't sink...
Having almost any of the floating condo monohulls in production
roll over is a sure sinking as those picture windows cave in and
the upper stories fill with water...
It depends on what scares you...
The Dashews have built the equivalent of a destroyer so that
they feel secure... It is a fine boat... It's not my cup of
tea...
Now, a cat that is 83' long and 20' feet wide is a stability question..
83' long and 40' wide is not a stability question... The research
has been done and the graphs are out there...  Properly designed,
either a monohull or a cat hull will survive amazing waves but the cat
has the edge...
A cat hull does not require active fins underway, and flopper stoppers at
anchor...
After doing a lot of reading, this old rag bag sailor decided
that the retirement boat is to be a power cat...

denny


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What was the name of the show and time slot that compared a mono to a cat hull in high seas on the Discovery Channel? I am sure many of us would love to see this episode. -----Original Message----- From: Mark [mailto:mark424x@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:00 PM To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com Subject: Re: [PCW] Catamaran stability It sounds as though the Dashews hold a hard requirement on capsize recovery. Here they talk about building a cat for coastal cruising. Sure would like to see that design, but I'd bet it's big and pricey like their other boats. Probably something like a Gunboat. from http://www.setsail.com/s_logs/dashew/dashew210.html "As some of you know, Linda and I courted on catamarans and went on to design and build a series of high-performance boats in the 60s and 70s. These were all day sailors, although to us, once we had babies, they were our "family cruisers". We're not fans of multihulls for cruising offshore, but a modern fast cat, with modest accommodations and lots of boat speed sounded like an interesting approach for local sailing." Dennis OConnor <ad4hk2004@yahoo.com> wrote: They wrote me that the considered a catamaran, but discarded the idea due to "stability questions". ***************************************************** Having a cat go on it's back is a serious matter, though they usually don't sink... Having almost any of the floating condo monohulls in production roll over is a sure sinking as those picture windows cave in and the upper stories fill with water... It depends on what scares you... The Dashews have built the equivalent of a destroyer so that they feel secure... It is a fine boat... It's not my cup of tea... Now, a cat that is 83' long and 20' feet wide is a stability question.. 83' long and 40' wide is not a stability question... The research has been done and the graphs are out there... Properly designed, either a monohull or a cat hull will survive amazing waves but the cat has the edge... A cat hull does not require active fins underway, and flopper stoppers at anchor... After doing a lot of reading, this old rag bag sailor decided that the retirement boat is to be a power cat... denny --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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Alexander
Thu, Feb 23, 2006 6:12 PM

The time slot was between 8:00pm-9:00pm Wednesday. Sorry I don't recall the
name of the Show.  The show was actually about a large catamaran research
vessel.  And they showed why they choose a cat over a monohull, because they
needed a ship that could handle extreme conditions.

-----Original Message-----
From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Vozzella, Ed
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:03 PM
To: 'Power Catamaran List'
Subject: Re: [PCW] Catamaran stability

What was the name of the show and time slot that compared a mono to a cat
hull in high seas on the Discovery Channel? I am sure many of us would love
to see this episode.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark [mailto:mark424x@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:00 PM
To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] Catamaran stability

It sounds as though the Dashews hold a hard requirement on capsize recovery.
Here they talk about building a cat for coastal cruising.  Sure would like
to see that design, but I'd bet it's big and pricey like their other boats.
Probably something like a Gunboat.

from http://www.setsail.com/s_logs/dashew/dashew210.html
"As                    some of you know, Linda and I courted on catamarans
and went                    on to design and build a series of
high-performance boats in                    the 60s and 70s. These were all
day sailors, although to us,                    once we had babies, they
were our "family cruisers". We're not                    fans of multihulls
for cruising offshore, but a modern fast                    cat, with modest
accommodations and lots of boat speed sounded                    like an
interesting approach for local sailing."

Dennis OConnor ad4hk2004@yahoo.com wrote: They wrote me that the
considered a catamaran,
but
discarded the idea due to "stability questions".


Having a cat go on it's back is a serious matter, though they usually
don't sink...
Having almost any of the floating condo monohulls in production
roll over is a sure sinking as those picture windows cave in and
the upper stories fill with water...
It depends on what scares you...
The Dashews have built the equivalent of a destroyer so that
they feel secure... It is a fine boat... It's not my cup of
tea...
Now, a cat that is 83' long and 20' feet wide is a stability question..
83' long and 40' wide is not a stability question... The research
has been done and the graphs are out there...  Properly designed,
either a monohull or a cat hull will survive amazing waves but the cat
has the edge...
A cat hull does not require active fins underway, and flopper stoppers at
anchor...
After doing a lot of reading, this old rag bag sailor decided
that the retirement boat is to be a power cat...

denny


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The time slot was between 8:00pm-9:00pm Wednesday. Sorry I don't recall the name of the Show. The show was actually about a large catamaran research vessel. And they showed why they choose a cat over a monohull, because they needed a ship that could handle extreme conditions. -----Original Message----- From: power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:power-catamaran-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Vozzella, Ed Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:03 PM To: 'Power Catamaran List' Subject: Re: [PCW] Catamaran stability What was the name of the show and time slot that compared a mono to a cat hull in high seas on the Discovery Channel? I am sure many of us would love to see this episode. -----Original Message----- From: Mark [mailto:mark424x@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:00 PM To: power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com Subject: Re: [PCW] Catamaran stability It sounds as though the Dashews hold a hard requirement on capsize recovery. Here they talk about building a cat for coastal cruising. Sure would like to see that design, but I'd bet it's big and pricey like their other boats. Probably something like a Gunboat. from http://www.setsail.com/s_logs/dashew/dashew210.html "As some of you know, Linda and I courted on catamarans and went on to design and build a series of high-performance boats in the 60s and 70s. These were all day sailors, although to us, once we had babies, they were our "family cruisers". We're not fans of multihulls for cruising offshore, but a modern fast cat, with modest accommodations and lots of boat speed sounded like an interesting approach for local sailing." Dennis OConnor <ad4hk2004@yahoo.com> wrote: They wrote me that the considered a catamaran, but discarded the idea due to "stability questions". ***************************************************** Having a cat go on it's back is a serious matter, though they usually don't sink... Having almost any of the floating condo monohulls in production roll over is a sure sinking as those picture windows cave in and the upper stories fill with water... It depends on what scares you... The Dashews have built the equivalent of a destroyer so that they feel secure... It is a fine boat... It's not my cup of tea... Now, a cat that is 83' long and 20' feet wide is a stability question.. 83' long and 40' wide is not a stability question... The research has been done and the graphs are out there... Properly designed, either a monohull or a cat hull will survive amazing waves but the cat has the edge... A cat hull does not require active fins underway, and flopper stoppers at anchor... After doing a lot of reading, this old rag bag sailor decided that the retirement boat is to be a power cat... denny --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List
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David Flory
Thu, Feb 23, 2006 6:55 PM

On Feb 23, 2006, at 9:03 AM, Vozzella, Ed wrote:

What was the name of the show and time slot that compared a mono to
a cat
hull in high seas on the Discovery Channel? I am sure many of us
would love
to see this episode.

I'm betting it was the super ships episode that featured the Vasco de
Gama and the Kilo Moana. The former is described as the worlds
largest dredge and the latter as a research vessel which sounds like
what Alexander mentioned. It was scheduled at 9PM Wednesday. I can't
find it scheduled again but there's some info' on the Kilo Moana at:
http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/technology/vessels/kilo/kilo.html

Speak softly, study Aikido, & you won't need to carry a big stick!
See my photos @ http://homepage.mac.com/dflory

On Feb 23, 2006, at 9:03 AM, Vozzella, Ed wrote: > What was the name of the show and time slot that compared a mono to > a cat > hull in high seas on the Discovery Channel? I am sure many of us > would love > to see this episode. I'm betting it was the super ships episode that featured the Vasco de Gama and the Kilo Moana. The former is described as the worlds largest dredge and the latter as a research vessel which sounds like what Alexander mentioned. It was scheduled at 9PM Wednesday. I can't find it scheduled again but there's some info' on the Kilo Moana at: <http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/technology/vessels/kilo/kilo.html> -- Speak softly, study Aikido, & you won't need to carry a big stick! See my photos @ <http://homepage.mac.com/dflory>
RB
Roger Bingham
Thu, Feb 23, 2006 7:56 PM

Hi All

Another big cat here-

http://www.mbmclub.com/auto/newsdesk/20060115171300mbmnews.html

Regards

Roger Bingham
France

Hi All Another big cat here- http://www.mbmclub.com/auto/newsdesk/20060115171300mbmnews.html Regards Roger Bingham France