----- Original Message ---- From: bob england <bob_england@hotmail.com> To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:32:05 PM Subject: [PUP] Thoughts on piracy >I was not trying to be confrontational, and if I have offended anyone I >certainly do apologize. I was trying to point out that there are lots of >other things to worry about and that the "big three" or four, as the case >may be, are made almost inconsequential simply by the statistics. Bob you weren't being confrontational and neither was I. My point was the rogue waves appear to be a concern to many people that are given credence beyond their statistical occurrence. I apologize, I guess the concern about rogue waves is justified by the statistical occurrence. Patrick Willard 40PH aloha La Paz, MX

I've been reading Google News in an attempt to follow the frustrating search for this young woman. Although I believe the satellite data on rogue waves, the two skippers of the Picton Castle have pointed out that this was not a rogue wave by their definition. It seems that they are accustomed to seeing 3 waves in the Gulf Stream combine into one. They were already in 35 knot winds and "8 meter seas." They say that this wave flooded the entire deck to the gunwales. She was in a protected location on deck - but not secured to the vessel. Hindsight is 20/20. It appears that on that ship, this was not unusual. If you read the articles, you will discover why this is an even greater tragedy to the Gainey family - her father and remaining three daughters have lost their mother to cancer. The father is a well-loved Canadian and historic hockey player and manager. Water temperature was 70F and she was wearing warm clothes only. No flotation nor thermal suit. MOB lights and floats were tossed overboard and sighted by the C-130's. Although a strong woman, the normal hypothermia survival period ended today at 0900 EST. I hope that they continue the search. Hopefully, Ron Rogers