>>regarding these items, check Lunenburg Foundry www.lunenburgfoundry.com/ If they don't have what you want they will make it. I'm also looking for 6 hawse pipes with a 7"x4" opening, so I just gave them a call. They don't stock _anything_ anymore, everything is custom-made. The guy I talked to wouldn't even give me a range for a cost estimate without engineering drawings. I said "hey, are we talking $500 each here?" and he said "could be a thousand each". >>great people to deal with. Yeah, I can see that getting $6K for 6 hawse pipes might make someone rather friendly. Still looking... Keith