Hi Charlie, Patrick, Megan and I will be discussing this work tomorrow afternoon to determine just what is required and we will follow up on this thread once we've had a chance to explore this in more detail. As Richard pointed out, we have our core CollectionSpace development schedule set through September 2012 http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3.0 and http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3.0+Proposed+Schedule We do however, realize how important this functionality is to many community members. Thanks very much for keeping this conversation alive! Angela On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Charlie Moad wrote: > It would help to know if someone could express what would be > involved in this process. It seems like it could be really close if > it is just a matter of exposing the CS doc types in the DM > interface. What are the complicating factors beyond that? > > - Charlie > > From: Nate Solas <nate.solas@walkerart.org> > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:52:38 -0600 > To: Richard Millet <richard.millet@berkeley.edu> > Cc: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, <talk@lists.collectionspace.org > > > Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > > I'd like to +1 a raised priority for this, but I'm not entirely sure > what to recommend bumping. For us, and I suspect most of the current > implementers, the multi-tenant service isn't as big an issue, but I > know it's core to the long-term sustainability of the software. > > It seems like there might be some room for this work in the 2.3 > roadmap? I don't know how big a chunk the Location and Movement > rewrite is. > > Thanks for considering it. This would be huge for us, and it sounds > like there is a lot of support out there. > Nate > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Richard Millet <richard.millet@berkeley.edu > > wrote: >> Charlie, >> >> Thanks for experimenting with this. One of our known tasks is to >> ensure that CollectionSpace can co-exist with Nuxeo’s DM and DAM >> applications. Unfortunately, this work is not currently scheduled >> to happen anytime soon. However, we understand the value of >> CollectionSpace being able to co-exist with Nuxeo’s applications. >> If you feel we need to make this work a higher priority, please >> review the current release roadmaps and see how this work compares >> to what we have planned. If you decide this work is more >> important, let us know and we can try to raise its priority. >> >> -Richard >> >> >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> ] On Behalf Of Charlie Moad >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:14 PM >> To: Christopher Pott; Chris Hoffman >> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> >> I haven't had much time, but I took a naïve attempt at installing CS >> +DM+DAM all on the same postgres database. I am attaching two >> screenshots of the results. There are only a few errors during the >> DM+DAM startup, but things seem to run well enough. There appears >> to be promise. Two glaring things are that the "default-domain" >> that is normally part of the top-level of DM is missing. Looking >> inside each CS domain shows a workspace for each type, but they are >> empty. I would hope that it is only a matter of adding the proper >> Nuxeo extensions to expose these types to the DM interface. Any >> insight the development team has would be interesting. In the mean >> time I believe we are going to relate our DM documents to >> placeholders documents. The prospect of creating relationship >> between DM documents and CS ones feels close though. >> >> - Charlie >> >> From: Christopher Pott <Christopher.Pott@smk.dk> >> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:35:34 +0100 >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, Chris Hoffman <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu >> > >> Cc: <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >> Subject: SV: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> Hi Charlie, >> >> Here at SMK we’re also in the process of defining our requirements >> for a DAM solution and as a part of this process have also tested >> an earlier Nuxeo DAM version. It was basic, but seemed fast and >> stable in the short period we tested it. Relating texts and >> documents to artworks is also a pressing use case for us – although >> Ihope we can integrate this into CollectionSpace either through the >> Media Handling procedure by supporting some new document types >> (pdf, doc, html etc.) or possibly even by creating a new procedure >> for handling related texts. In any case I look forward to following >> your investigations. >> >> Regards, >> (another) Chris >> >> Fra: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> ] På vegne af Charlie Moad >> Sendt: 4. januar 2012 22:48 >> Til: Chris Hoffman >> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> Emne: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> At the IMA we are just in the process of rolling out the new DAM >> software based on 5.5. We have been using DM with a select group of >> staff members for several months now with decent success. We found >> the previous versions of DAM lacking some very basic needs and many >> of those have been addressed in the latest release. We even paid >> for the development of some of those enhancements. In general Nuxeo >> DAM is fairly simple, but that's all that we (and I suspect many >> museums) need. We need it to be able to handle and preview media >> files and relate them to our institution. I'm not entirely sure >> what the effort would be and if much additional work would be >> required. That's why I reached out. I'll continue to investigate >> this and come back with progress I might have. >> >> - Charlie >> >> From: Chris Hoffman <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu> >> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:39:36 -0800 >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org> >> Cc: "talk@lists.collectionspace.org" <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> Hi Charlie, >> >> At UC Berkeley, we have a very strong need to connect collections >> management and digital assetmanagement functions in the way you >> describe. The Nuxeo DAM has seemed like a good way to go, but we >> haven't really experimented with it here. What's your experience >> been like? Anyway, we'll happily endorsethis too. And if it's >> something that looks like it needs another grant-funded project to >> do right, maybe we could get our institutions to partner on >> something. Just thinking out loud... >> >> Thanks, >> Chris >> >> >> On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Charlie Moad wrote: >> >> >> Thanks for following up Patrick. I'll rally my friends. I wouldn't >> expect a CollectionSpace tab in Nuxeo CAP anytime soon either, but >> it would be pretty powerful to have a single repository for the >> sole purpose of relating documents to collection objects, >> exhibitions, etc. >> >> Keep up the good work, >> Charlie >> >> From: Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> >> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:33:48 -0800 >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, <talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> > >> Subject: RE: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> Hi Charlie - >> >> This is something we would really like to investigate, as many >> folks have expressed at least some interest in this. We have also >> been assured by the Nuxeo folks that this should be possible. At >> this point, it is mostly a matter of resources and priorities. If >> the community rallies support for this as an essential integration, >> we should be able to find time in the Phase 3 project to >> investigate it. >> >> Note that we are otherwise interested in getting the DM working as >> a diagnostic and support tool, and to aid with import/export >> workflows. As such, there may be some basic investigation (not >> necessarily including DAM/CSpace coordination) in the near term. >> >> I doubt very much that CSpace will appear as a tab in the Nuxeo UI >> any time soon, as this is not ause-case that anyone (else) has yet >> requested. Am not ruling it out, just giving my impression of the >> current project priorities, in response to yourquestion on a >> related thread. >> >> Thanks for the question - >> >> Patrick >> >> >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> ] On Behalf Of Charlie Moad >> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:18 AM >> To: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> Subject: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> What is the feasibility of setting up a single repository running >> the new Nuxeo CAP 5.5 (DM + DAM specifically) and CollectionSpace >> 2.0 in a single repository? I would like to be able to relate >> documents to works in our collection. Any guidance would be greatly >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> Charlie >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact Charlie Moad >> by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact Charlie Moad >> by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk mailing list >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact Charlie Moad >> by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact Charlie Moad >> by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk mailing list >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org >> > > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) > and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any > unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. > If you are not the intended recipient, please contact Charlie Moad > by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > _______________________________________________ > Talk mailing list > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org

Hi all, A brief update for you on this Nuxeo DM question. As Patrick mentioned in an earlier post to this thread (January 4th) "Note that we are otherwise interested in getting the DM working as a diagnostic and support tool, and to aid with import/export workflows. As such, there may be some basic investigation (not necessarily including DAM/CSpace coordination) in the near term." Given the level of interest in and the potential positive impact of getting the DM working as a diagnostic support tool, we will include investigation into the effort required to do so in the scope of work for the release 2.3 (scheduled to begin on March 5th). Based on what we discover in the research phase, we will determine if/when the work might be scheduled to take place within the current schedule. We'll be creating a new Jira for this investigation effort so that everyone who is interested can keep an eye on our progress. Cheers, Angela On Feb 22, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Angela Spinazze wrote: > Hi Charlie, > > Patrick, Megan and I will be discussing this work tomorrow afternoon > to determine just what is required and we will follow up on this > thread once we've had a chance to explore this in more detail. > > As Richard pointed out, we have our core CollectionSpace development > schedule set through September 2012 http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3.0 > and http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3.0+Proposed+Schedule > > We do however, realize how important this functionality is to many > community members. Thanks very much for keeping this conversation > alive! > > Angela > > > On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Charlie Moad wrote: > >> It would help to know if someone could express what would be >> involved in this process. It seems like it could be really close if >> it is just a matter of exposing the CS doc types in the DM >> interface. What are the complicating factors beyond that? >> >> - Charlie >> >> From: Nate Solas <nate.solas@walkerart.org> >> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:52:38 -0600 >> To: Richard Millet <richard.millet@berkeley.edu> >> Cc: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, <talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> > >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> I'd like to +1 a raised priority for this, but I'm not entirely >> sure what to recommend bumping. For us, and I suspect most of the >> current implementers, the multi-tenant service isn't as big an >> issue, but I know it's core to the long-term sustainability of the >> software. >> >> It seems like there might be some room for this work in the 2.3 >> roadmap? I don't know how big a chunk the Location and Movement >> rewrite is. >> >> Thanks for considering it. This would be huge for us, and it sounds >> like there is a lot of support out there. >> Nate >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Richard Millet <richard.millet@berkeley.edu >> > wrote: >>> Charlie, >>> >>> Thanks for experimenting with this. One of our known tasks is to >>> ensure that CollectionSpace can co-exist with Nuxeo’s DM and DAM >>> applications. Unfortunately, this work is not currently scheduled >>> to happen anytime soon. However, we understand the value of >>> CollectionSpace being able to co-exist with Nuxeo’s applications. >>> If you feel we need to make this work a higher priority, please >>> review the current release roadmaps and see how this work compares >>> to what we have planned. If you decide this work is more >>> important, let us know and we can try to raise its priority. >>> >>> -Richard >>> >>> >>> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >>> ] On Behalf Of Charlie Moad >>> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:14 PM >>> To: Christopher Pott; Chris Hoffman >>> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >>> >>> >>> I haven't had much time, but I took a naïve attempt at installing >>> CS+DM+DAM all on the same postgres database. I am attaching two >>> screenshots of the results. There are only a few errors during the >>> DM+DAM startup, but things seem to run well enough. There appears >>> to be promise. Two glaring things are that the "default-domain" >>> that is normally part of the top-level of DM is missing. Looking >>> inside each CS domain shows a workspace for each type, but they >>> are empty. I would hope that it is only a matter of adding the >>> proper Nuxeo extensions to expose these types to the DM interface. >>> Any insight the development team has would be interesting. In the >>> mean time I believe we are going to relate our DM documents to >>> placeholders documents. The prospect of creating relationship >>> between DM documents and CS ones feels close though. >>> >>> - Charlie >>> >>> From: Christopher Pott <Christopher.Pott@smk.dk> >>> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:35:34 +0100 >>> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, Chris Hoffman <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu >>> > >>> Cc: <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >>> Subject: SV: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >>> >>> Hi Charlie, >>> >>> Here at SMK we’re also in the process of defining our requirements >>> for a DAM solution and as a part of this process have also tested >>> an earlier Nuxeo DAM version. It was basic, but seemed fast and >>> stable in the short period we tested it. Relating texts and >>> documents to artworks is also a pressing use case for us – >>> although Ihope we can integrate this into CollectionSpace either >>> through the Media Handling procedure by supporting some new >>> document types (pdf, doc, html etc.) or possibly even by creating >>> a new procedure for handling related texts. In any case I look >>> forward to following your investigations. >>> >>> Regards, >>> (another) Chris >>> >>> Fra: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >>> ] På vegne af Charlie Moad >>> Sendt: 4. januar 2012 22:48 >>> Til: Chris Hoffman >>> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >>> Emne: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >>> >>> At the IMA we are just in the process of rolling out the new DAM >>> software based on 5.5. We have been using DM with a select group >>> of staff members for several months now with decent success. We >>> found the previous versions of DAM lacking some very basic needs >>> and many of those have been addressed in the latest release. We >>> even paid for the development of some of those enhancements. In >>> general Nuxeo DAM is fairly simple, but that's all that we (and I >>> suspect many museums) need. We need it to be able to handle and >>> preview media files and relate them to our institution. I'm not >>> entirely sure what the effort would be and if much additional work >>> would be required. That's why I reached out. I'll continue to >>> investigate this and come back with progress I might have. >>> >>> - Charlie >>> >>> From: Chris Hoffman <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu> >>> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:39:36 -0800 >>> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org> >>> Cc: "talk@lists.collectionspace.org" >>> <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >>> >>> Hi Charlie, >>> >>> At UC Berkeley, we have a very strong need to connect collections >>> management and digital assetmanagement functions in the way you >>> describe. The Nuxeo DAM has seemed like a good way to go, but we >>> haven't really experimented with it here. What's your experience >>> been like? Anyway, we'll happily endorsethis too. And if it's >>> something that looks like it needs another grant-funded project to >>> do right, maybe we could get our institutions to partner on >>> something. Just thinking out loud... >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Charlie Moad wrote: >>> >>> >>> Thanks for following up Patrick. I'll rally my friends. I wouldn't >>> expect a CollectionSpace tab in Nuxeo CAP anytime soon either, but >>> it would be pretty powerful to have a single repository for the >>> sole purpose of relating documents to collection objects, >>> exhibitions, etc. >>> >>> Keep up the good work, >>> Charlie >>> >>> From: Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> >>> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:33:48 -0800 >>> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, <talk@lists.collectionspace.org >>> > >>> Subject: RE: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >>> >>> Hi Charlie - >>> >>> This is something we would really like to investigate, as many >>> folks have expressed at least some interest in this. We have also >>> been assured by the Nuxeo folks that this should be possible. At >>> this point, it is mostly a matter of resources and priorities. If >>> the community rallies support for this as an essential >>> integration, we should be able to find time in the Phase 3 project >>> to investigate it. >>> >>> Note that we are otherwise interested in getting the DM working as >>> a diagnostic and support tool, and to aid with import/export >>> workflows. As such, there may be some basic investigation (not >>> necessarily including DAM/CSpace coordination) in the near term. >>> >>> I doubt very much that CSpace will appear as a tab in the Nuxeo UI >>> any time soon, as this is not ause-case that anyone (else) has yet >>> requested. Am not ruling it out, just giving my impression of the >>> current project priorities, in response to yourquestion on a >>> related thread. >>> >>> Thanks for the question - >>> >>> Patrick >>> >>> >>> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >>> ] On Behalf Of Charlie Moad >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:18 AM >>> To: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >>> Subject: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >>> >>> What is the feasibility of setting up a single repository running >>> the new Nuxeo CAP 5.5 (DM + DAM specifically) and CollectionSpace >>> 2.0 in a single repository? I would like to be able to relate >>> documents to works in our collection. Any guidance would be >>> greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Charlie >>> This email message is for the sole use of the intended >>> recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged >>> information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or >>> distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, >>> please contact Charlie Moad by reply email and destroy all copies >>> of the original message. >>> >>> This email message is for the sole use of the intended >>> recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged >>> information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or >>> distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, >>> please contact Charlie Moad by reply email and destroy all copies >>> of the original message. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk mailing list >>> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org >>> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org >>> >>> This email message is for the sole use of the intended >>> recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged >>> information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or >>> distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, >>> please contact Charlie Moad by reply email and destroy all copies >>> of the original message. >>> >>> This email message is for the sole use of the intended >>> recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged >>> information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or >>> distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, >>> please contact Charlie Moad by reply email and destroy all copies >>> of the original message. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk mailing list >>> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org >>> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org >>> >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact Charlie Moad >> by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk mailing list >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org > > _______________________________________________ > Talk mailing list > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org

DAM the torpedoes, and full speed ahead? Aron (With due apologies ... it's Friday afternoon) http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/damn_the_torpedoes On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Angela Spinazze <ats@atspin.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > A brief update for you on this Nuxeo DM question. > > As Patrick mentioned in an earlier post to this thread (January 4th) "Note > that we are otherwise interested in getting the DM working as a diagnostic > and support tool, and to aid with import/export workflows. As such, there > may be some basic investigation (not necessarily including DAM/CSpace > coordination) in the near term." > > Given the level of interest in and the potential positive impact of getting > the DM working as a diagnostic support tool, we will include investigation > into the effort required to do so in the scope of work for the release 2.3 > (scheduled to begin on March 5th).  Based on what we discover in the > research phase, we will determine if/when the work might be scheduled to > take place within the current schedule. > > We'll be creating a new Jira for this investigation effort so that everyone > who is interested can keep an eye on our progress. > > Cheers, > > Angela > > > On Feb 22, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Angela Spinazze wrote: > > Hi Charlie, > > Patrick, Megan and I will be discussing this work tomorrow afternoon to > determine just what is required and we will follow up on this thread once > we've had a chance to explore this in more detail. > > As Richard pointed out, we have our core CollectionSpace development > schedule set through September 2012 > http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3.0 >  and http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3.0+Proposed+Schedule > > We do however, realize how important this functionality is to many community > members. Thanks very much for keeping this conversation alive! > > Angela > > > On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Charlie Moad wrote: > > It would help to know if someone could express what would be involved in > this process. It seems like it could be really close if it is just a matter > of exposing the CS doc types in the DM interface. What are the complicating > factors beyond that? > > - Charlie > > From: Nate Solas <nate.solas@walkerart.org> > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:52:38 -0600 > To: Richard Millet <richard.millet@berkeley.edu> > Cc: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> > Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > > I'd like to +1 a raised priority for this, but I'm not entirely sure what to > recommend bumping. For us, and I suspect most of the current implementers, > the multi-tenant service isn't as big an issue, but I know it's core to the > long-term sustainability of the software. > > It seems like there might be some room for this work in the 2.3 roadmap? I > don't know how big a chunk the Location and Movement rewrite is. > > Thanks for considering it. This would be huge for us, and it sounds like > there is a lot of support out there. > Nate > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Richard Millet > <richard.millet@berkeley.edu> wrote: >> >> Charlie, >> >> Thanks for experimenting with this.  One of our known tasks is to ensure >> that CollectionSpace can co-exist with Nuxeo’s DM and DAM applications. >> Unfortunately, this work is not currently scheduled to happen anytime soon. >> However, we understand the value of CollectionSpace being able to co-exist >> with Nuxeo’s applications.  If you feel we need to make this work a higher >> priority, please review the current release roadmaps and see how this work >> compares to what we have planned.  If you decide this work is more >> important, let us know and we can try to raise its priority. >> >> -Richard >> >> >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Moad >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:14 PM >> To: Christopher Pott; Chris Hoffman >> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> >> I haven't had much time, but I took a naïve attempt at installing >> CS+DM+DAM all on the same postgres database. I am attaching two screenshots >> of the results. There are only a few errors during the DM+DAM startup, but >> things seem to run well enough. There appears to be promise. Two glaring >> things are that the "default-domain" that is normally part of the top-level >> of DM is missing. Looking inside each CS domain shows a workspace for each >> type, but they are empty. I would hope that it is only a matter of adding >> the proper Nuxeo extensions to expose these types to the DM interface. Any >> insight the development team has would be interesting. In the mean time I >> believe we are going to relate our DM documents to placeholders documents. >> The prospect of creating relationship between DM documents and CS ones feels >> close though. >> >> - Charlie >> >> From: Christopher Pott <Christopher.Pott@smk.dk> >> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:35:34 +0100 >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, Chris Hoffman >> <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu> >> Cc: <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >> Subject: SV: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> Hi Charlie, >> >> Here at SMK we’re also in the process of defining our requirements for a >> DAM solution and as a part of this process have also tested an earlier Nuxeo >> DAM version. It was basic, but seemed fast and stable in the short period we >> tested it. Relating texts and documents to artworks is also a pressing use >> case for us – although Ihope we can integrate this into CollectionSpace >> either through the Media Handling procedure by supporting some new document >> types (pdf, doc, html etc.) or possibly even by creating a new procedure for >> handling related texts. In any case I look forward to following your >> investigations. >> >> Regards, >> (another) Chris >> >> ________________________________ >> Fra: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] På vegne af Charlie Moad >> Sendt: 4. januar 2012 22:48 >> Til: Chris Hoffman >> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> Emne: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> At the IMA we are just in the process of rolling out the new DAM software >> based on 5.5. We have been using DM with a select group of staff members for >> several months now with decent success. We found the previous versions of >> DAM lacking some very basic needs and many of those have been addressed in >> the latest release. We even paid for the development of some of those >> enhancements. In general Nuxeo DAM is fairly simple, but that's all that we >> (and I suspect many museums) need. We need it to be able to handle and >> preview media files and relate them to our institution. I'm not entirely >> sure what the effort would be and if much additional work would be required. >> That's why I reached out. I'll continue to investigate this and come back >> with progress I might have. >> >> - Charlie >> >> From: Chris Hoffman <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu> >> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:39:36 -0800 >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org> >> Cc: "talk@lists.collectionspace.org" <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> Hi Charlie, >> >> At UC Berkeley, we have a very strong need to connect collections >> management and digital assetmanagement functions in the way you describe. >>  The Nuxeo DAM has seemed like a good way to go, but we haven't really >> experimented with it here.  What's your experience been like?  Anyway, we'll >> happily endorsethis too.  And if it's something that looks like it needs >> another grant-funded project to do right, maybe we could get our >> institutions to partner on something.  Just thinking out loud... >> >> Thanks, >> Chris >> >> >> On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Charlie Moad wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks for following up Patrick. I'll rally my friends. I wouldn't expect >> a CollectionSpace tab in Nuxeo CAP anytime soon either, but it would be >> pretty powerful to have a single repository for the sole purpose of relating >> documents to collection objects, exhibitions, etc. >> >> Keep up the good work, >> Charlie >> >> From: Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> >> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:33:48 -0800 >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >> Subject: RE: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> Hi Charlie - >> >> This is something we would really like to investigate, as many folks have >> expressed at least some interest in this. We have also been assured by the >> Nuxeo folks that this should be possible. At this point, it is mostly a >> matter of resources and priorities. If the community rallies support for >> this as an essential integration, we should be able to find time in the >> Phase 3 project to investigate it. >> >> Note that we are otherwise interested in getting the DM working as a >> diagnostic and support tool, and to aid with import/export workflows. As >> such, there may be some basic investigation (not necessarily including >> DAM/CSpace coordination) in the near term. >> >> I doubt very much that CSpace will appear as a tab in the Nuxeo UI any >> time soon, as this is not ause-case that anyone (else) has yet requested. Am >> not ruling it out, just giving my impression of the current project >> priorities, in response to yourquestion on a related thread. >> >> Thanks for the question - >> >> Patrick >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Moad >> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:18 AM >> To: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> Subject: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> What is the feasibility of setting up a single repository running the new >> Nuxeo CAP 5.5 (DM + DAM specifically) and CollectionSpace 2.0 in a single >> repository? I would like to be able to relate documents to works in our >> collection. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> Charlie >> ________________________________ >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and >> may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized >> review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the >> intended recipient, please contact Charlie Moad by reply email and destroy >> all copies of the original message. >> >> ________________________________ >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and >> may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized >> review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the >> intended recipient, please contact Charlie Moad by reply email and destroy >> all copies of the original message. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk mailing list >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org >> >> ________________________________ >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and >> may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized >> review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the >> intended recipient, please contact Charlie Moad by reply email and destroy >> all copies of the original message. >> >> ________________________________ >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and >> may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized >> review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the >> intended recipient, please contact Charlie Moad by reply email and destroy >> all copies of the original message. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk mailing list >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org >> > > ________________________________ > > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may > contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact Charlie Moad by reply email and destroy all copies > of the original message. > > _______________________________________________ > Talk mailing list > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk mailing list > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk mailing list > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org >

Sorry to undermine your joke, but I should note that Nuxeo DM is not the same as Nuxeo DAM. Nuxeo DM is the traditional Nuxeo doc management app that we used when we had the dual-server (JBoss) setup. Nuxeo DAM is the Digital Asset Management application. We would like (eventually) to support both, integrated with the same repo as CSpace. However, the scope of work in 2.3 is only to look at DM, so that support for export and diagnostics is restored to what we had previous to 2.0. It may well be that once we figure out how to support DM and CSpace, adding the DAM app to the mix will be straightforward. However, integrating DAM is not a goal in the 2.3 release. Patrick > -----Original Message----- > From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org > [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf Of > Aron Roberts > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:41 PM > To: Angela Spinazze > Cc: CollectionSpace Talk List > Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > > DAM the torpedoes, and full speed ahead? > > Aron > > (With due apologies ... it's Friday afternoon) > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/damn_the_torpedoes > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Angela Spinazze > <ats@atspin.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > A brief update for you on this Nuxeo DM question. > > > > As Patrick mentioned in an earlier post to this thread > (January 4th) > > "Note that we are otherwise interested in getting the DM > working as a > > diagnostic and support tool, and to aid with import/export > workflows. > > As such, there may be some basic investigation (not necessarily > > including DAM/CSpace > > coordination) in the near term." > > > > Given the level of interest in and the potential positive impact of > > getting the DM working as a diagnostic support tool, we > will include > > investigation into the effort required to do so in the > scope of work > > for the release 2.3 (scheduled to begin on March 5th).   Based on what > > we discover in the research phase, we will determine > if/when the work > > might be scheduled to take place within the current schedule. > > > > We'll be creating a new Jira for this investigation effort so that > > everyone who is interested can keep an eye on our progress. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Angela > > > > > > On Feb 22, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Angela Spinazze wrote: > > > > Hi Charlie, > > > > Patrick, Megan and I will be discussing this work tomorrow > afternoon > > to determine just what is required and we will follow up on this > > thread once we've had a chance to explore this in more detail. > > > > As Richard pointed out, we have our core CollectionSpace > development > > schedule set through September 2012 > > > http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3.0 > >  and  > > > http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3.0 > > +Proposed+Schedule > > > > We do however, realize how important this functionality is to many > > community members. Thanks very much for keeping this > conversation alive! > > > > Angela > > > > > > On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Charlie Moad wrote: > > > > It would help to know if someone could express what would > be involved > > in this process. It seems like it could be really close if > it is just > > a matter of exposing the CS doc types in the DM interface. What are > > the complicating factors beyond that? > > > > - Charlie > > > > From: Nate Solas <nate.solas@walkerart.org> > > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:52:38 -0600 > > To: Richard Millet <richard.millet@berkeley.edu> > > Cc: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, > > <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> > > Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > > > > I'd like to +1 a raised priority for this, but I'm not > entirely sure > > what to recommend bumping. For us, and I suspect most of > the current > > implementers, the multi-tenant service isn't as big an issue, but I > > know it's core to the long-term sustainability of the software. > > > > It seems like there might be some room for this work in the 2.3 > > roadmap? I don't know how big a chunk the Location and > Movement rewrite is. > > > > Thanks for considering it. This would be huge for us, and it sounds > > like there is a lot of support out there. > > Nate > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Richard Millet > > <richard.millet@berkeley.edu> wrote: > >> > >> Charlie, > >> > >> Thanks for experimenting with this.  One of our known tasks is to > >> ensure that CollectionSpace can co-exist with Nuxeo’s DM > and DAM applications. > >> Unfortunately, this work is not currently scheduled to > happen anytime soon. > >> However, we understand the value of CollectionSpace being able to > >> co-exist with Nuxeo’s applications.  If you feel we need > to make this > >> work a higher priority, please review the current release roadmaps > >> and see how this work compares to what we have planned.  If you > >> decide this work is more important, let us know and we can > try to raise its priority. > >> > >> -Richard > >> > >> > >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org > >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf > Of Charlie > >> Moad > >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:14 PM > >> To: Christopher Pott; Chris Hoffman > >> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> > >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > >> > >> > >> I haven't had much time, but I took a naïve attempt at installing > >> CS+DM+DAM all on the same postgres database. I am attaching two > >> CS+DM+screenshots > >> of the results. There are only a few errors during the DM+DAM > >> startup, but things seem to run well enough. There appears to be > >> promise. Two glaring things are that the "default-domain" that is > >> normally part of the top-level of DM is missing. Looking > inside each > >> CS domain shows a workspace for each type, but they are empty. I > >> would hope that it is only a matter of adding the proper Nuxeo > >> extensions to expose these types to the DM interface. Any > insight the > >> development team has would be interesting. In the mean > time I believe we are going to relate our DM documents to > placeholders documents. > >> The prospect of creating relationship between DM documents and CS > >> ones feels close though. > >> > >> - Charlie > >> > >> From: Christopher Pott <Christopher.Pott@smk.dk> > >> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:35:34 +0100 > >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, Chris Hoffman > >> <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu> > >> Cc: <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> > >> Subject: SV: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > >> > >> Hi Charlie, > >> > >> Here at SMK we’re also in the process of defining our requirements > >> for a DAM solution and as a part of this process have also > tested an > >> earlier Nuxeo DAM version. It was basic, but seemed fast > and stable > >> in the short period we tested it. Relating texts and documents to > >> artworks is also a pressing use case for us – although > Ihope we can > >> integrate this into CollectionSpace either through the > Media Handling > >> procedure by supporting some new document types (pdf, doc, > html etc.) > >> or possibly even by creating a new procedure for handling related > >> texts. In any case I look forward to following your investigations. > >> > >> Regards, > >> (another) Chris > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> Fra: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org > >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] På vegne > af Charlie > >> Moad > >> Sendt: 4. januar 2012 22:48 > >> Til: Chris Hoffman > >> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> Emne: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > >> > >> At the IMA we are just in the process of rolling out the new DAM > >> software based on 5.5. We have been using DM with a select > group of > >> staff members for several months now with decent success. We found > >> the previous versions of DAM lacking some very basic needs > and many > >> of those have been addressed in the latest release. We > even paid for > >> the development of some of those enhancements. In general > Nuxeo DAM > >> is fairly simple, but that's all that we (and I suspect > many museums) > >> need. We need it to be able to handle and preview media files and > >> relate them to our institution. I'm not entirely sure what > the effort would be and if much additional work would be required. > >> That's why I reached out. I'll continue to investigate > this and come > >> back with progress I might have. > >> > >> - Charlie > >> > >> From: Chris Hoffman <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu> > >> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:39:36 -0800 > >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org> > >> Cc: "talk@lists.collectionspace.org" > <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> > >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > >> > >> Hi Charlie, > >> > >> At UC Berkeley, we have a very strong need to connect collections > >> management and digital assetmanagement functions in the > way you describe. > >>  The Nuxeo DAM has seemed like a good way to go, but we haven't > >> really experimented with it here.  What's your experience > been like?   > >> Anyway, we'll happily endorsethis too.  And if it's something that > >> looks like it needs another grant-funded project to do > right, maybe > >> we could get our institutions to partner on something.   Just thinking out loud... > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Chris > >> > >> > >> On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Charlie Moad wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks for following up Patrick. I'll rally my friends. I wouldn't > >> expect a CollectionSpace tab in Nuxeo CAP anytime soon > either, but it > >> would be pretty powerful to have a single repository for the sole > >> purpose of relating documents to collection objects, > exhibitions, etc. > >> > >> Keep up the good work, > >> Charlie > >> > >> From: Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> > >> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:33:48 -0800 > >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, > >> <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> > >> Subject: RE: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > >> > >> Hi Charlie - > >> > >> This is something we would really like to investigate, as > many folks > >> have expressed at least some interest in this. We have also been > >> assured by the Nuxeo folks that this should be possible. At this > >> point, it is mostly a matter of resources and priorities. If the > >> community rallies support for this as an essential integration, we > >> should be able to find time in the Phase 3 project to > investigate it. > >> > >> Note that we are otherwise interested in getting the DM > working as a > >> diagnostic and support tool, and to aid with import/export > workflows. > >> As such, there may be some basic investigation (not necessarily > >> including DAM/CSpace coordination) in the near term. > >> > >> I doubt very much that CSpace will appear as a tab in the Nuxeo UI > >> any time soon, as this is not ause-case that anyone (else) has yet > >> requested. Am not ruling it out, just giving my impression of the > >> current project priorities, in response to yourquestion on > a related thread. > >> > >> Thanks for the question - > >> > >> Patrick > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org > >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf > Of Charlie > >> Moad > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:18 AM > >> To: talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> Subject: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > >> > >> What is the feasibility of setting up a single repository > running the > >> new Nuxeo CAP 5.5 (DM + DAM specifically) and > CollectionSpace 2.0 in > >> a single repository? I would like to be able to relate > documents to > >> works in our collection. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Charlie > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended > recipient(s) > >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any > >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. > >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > Charlie Moad by > >> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended > recipient(s) > >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any > >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. > >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > Charlie Moad by > >> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Talk mailing list > >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> > >> > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collecti > >> onspace.org > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended > recipient(s) > >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any > >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. > >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > Charlie Moad by > >> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended > recipient(s) > >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any > >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. > >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > Charlie Moad by > >> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Talk mailing list > >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> > >> > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collecti > >> onspace.org > >> > > > > ________________________________ > > > > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) > > and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any > > unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. If > > you are not the intended recipient, please contact Charlie Moad by > > reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk mailing list > > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > > > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectio > > nspace.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk mailing list > > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > > > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectio > > nspace.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk mailing list > > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > > > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectio > > nspace.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk mailing list > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.c > ollectionspace.org >

That was creative license, alas. "DM the torpedoes" just didn't seem to have the same impact (pun intended). Thanks for the as-always important clarification, Patrick! Aron P.S. Two key reasons that getting the DM back is useful, and that, as Patrick mentioned, we're focusing on that initially: http://issues.collectionspace.org/browse/CSPACE-4790 In addition to the two reasons mentioned, two more: the DM's web console gave us one more useful diagnostic tool for looking at Nuxeo's view of things, and a quick way to both view and hard-delete records via a web-based UI. On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> wrote: > Sorry to undermine your joke, but I should note that Nuxeo DM is not the > same as Nuxeo DAM. > > Nuxeo DM is the traditional Nuxeo doc management app that we used when we > had the dual-server (JBoss) setup. > > Nuxeo DAM is the Digital Asset Management application. > > We would like (eventually) to support both, integrated with the same repo as > CSpace. > > However, the scope of work in 2.3 is only to look at DM, so that support for > export and diagnostics is restored to what we had previous to 2.0. It may > well be that once we figure out how to support DM and CSpace, adding the DAM > app to the mix will be straightforward. However, integrating DAM is not a > goal in the 2.3 release. > > Patrick > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf Of >> Aron Roberts >> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:41 PM >> To: Angela Spinazze >> Cc: CollectionSpace Talk List >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> DAM the torpedoes, and full speed ahead? >> >> Aron >> >> (With due apologies ... it's Friday afternoon) >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/damn_the_torpedoes >> >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Angela Spinazze >> <ats@atspin.com> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > A brief update for you on this Nuxeo DM question. >> > >> > As Patrick mentioned in an earlier post to this thread >> (January 4th) >> > "Note that we are otherwise interested in getting the DM >> working as a >> > diagnostic and support tool, and to aid with import/export >> workflows. >> > As such, there may be some basic investigation (not necessarily >> > including DAM/CSpace >> > coordination) in the near term." >> > >> > Given the level of interest in and the potential positive impact of >> > getting the DM working as a diagnostic support tool, we >> will include >> > investigation into the effort required to do so in the >> scope of work >> > for the release 2.3 (scheduled to begin on March 5th). > Based on what >> > we discover in the research phase, we will determine >> if/when the work >> > might be scheduled to take place within the current schedule. >> > >> > We'll be creating a new Jira for this investigation effort so that >> > everyone who is interested can keep an eye on our progress. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Angela >> > >> > >> > On Feb 22, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Angela Spinazze wrote: >> > >> > Hi Charlie, >> > >> > Patrick, Megan and I will be discussing this work tomorrow >> afternoon >> > to determine just what is required and we will follow up on this >> > thread once we've had a chance to explore this in more detail. >> > >> > As Richard pointed out, we have our core CollectionSpace >> development >> > schedule set through September 2012 >> > >> http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3.0 >> >  and >> > >> http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3.0 >> > +Proposed+Schedule >> > >> > We do however, realize how important this functionality is to many >> > community members. Thanks very much for keeping this >> conversation alive! >> > >> > Angela >> > >> > >> > On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Charlie Moad wrote: >> > >> > It would help to know if someone could express what would >> be involved >> > in this process. It seems like it could be really close if >> it is just >> > a matter of exposing the CS doc types in the DM interface. What are >> > the complicating factors beyond that? >> > >> > - Charlie >> > >> > From: Nate Solas <nate.solas@walkerart.org> >> > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:52:38 -0600 >> > To: Richard Millet <richard.millet@berkeley.edu> >> > Cc: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, >> > <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >> > Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> > >> > I'd like to +1 a raised priority for this, but I'm not >> entirely sure >> > what to recommend bumping. For us, and I suspect most of >> the current >> > implementers, the multi-tenant service isn't as big an issue, but I >> > know it's core to the long-term sustainability of the software. >> > >> > It seems like there might be some room for this work in the 2.3 >> > roadmap? I don't know how big a chunk the Location and >> Movement rewrite is. >> > >> > Thanks for considering it. This would be huge for us, and it sounds >> > like there is a lot of support out there. >> > Nate >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Richard Millet >> > <richard.millet@berkeley.edu> wrote: >> >> >> >> Charlie, >> >> >> >> Thanks for experimenting with this.  One of our known tasks is to >> >> ensure that CollectionSpace can co-exist with Nuxeo’s DM >> and DAM applications. >> >> Unfortunately, this work is not currently scheduled to >> happen anytime soon. >> >> However, we understand the value of CollectionSpace being able to >> >> co-exist with Nuxeo’s applications.  If you feel we need >> to make this >> >> work a higher priority, please review the current release roadmaps >> >> and see how this work compares to what we have planned.  If you >> >> decide this work is more important, let us know and we can >> try to raise its priority. >> >> >> >> -Richard >> >> >> >> >> >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf >> Of Charlie >> >> Moad >> >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:14 PM >> >> To: Christopher Pott; Chris Hoffman >> >> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> >> >> >> >> I haven't had much time, but I took a naïve attempt at installing >> >> CS+DM+DAM all on the same postgres database. I am attaching two >> >> CS+DM+screenshots >> >> of the results. There are only a few errors during the DM+DAM >> >> startup, but things seem to run well enough. There appears to be >> >> promise. Two glaring things are that the "default-domain" that is >> >> normally part of the top-level of DM is missing. Looking >> inside each >> >> CS domain shows a workspace for each type, but they are empty. I >> >> would hope that it is only a matter of adding the proper Nuxeo >> >> extensions to expose these types to the DM interface. Any >> insight the >> >> development team has would be interesting. In the mean >> time I believe we are going to relate our DM documents to >> placeholders documents. >> >> The prospect of creating relationship between DM documents and CS >> >> ones feels close though. >> >> >> >> - Charlie >> >> >> >> From: Christopher Pott <Christopher.Pott@smk.dk> >> >> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:35:34 +0100 >> >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, Chris Hoffman >> >> <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu> >> >> Cc: <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >> >> Subject: SV: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> >> >> Hi Charlie, >> >> >> >> Here at SMK we’re also in the process of defining our requirements >> >> for a DAM solution and as a part of this process have also >> tested an >> >> earlier Nuxeo DAM version. It was basic, but seemed fast >> and stable >> >> in the short period we tested it. Relating texts and documents to >> >> artworks is also a pressing use case for us – although >> Ihope we can >> >> integrate this into CollectionSpace either through the >> Media Handling >> >> procedure by supporting some new document types (pdf, doc, >> html etc.) >> >> or possibly even by creating a new procedure for handling related >> >> texts. In any case I look forward to following your investigations. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> (another) Chris >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Fra: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] På vegne >> af Charlie >> >> Moad >> >> Sendt: 4. januar 2012 22:48 >> >> Til: Chris Hoffman >> >> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> Emne: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> >> >> At the IMA we are just in the process of rolling out the new DAM >> >> software based on 5.5. We have been using DM with a select >> group of >> >> staff members for several months now with decent success. We found >> >> the previous versions of DAM lacking some very basic needs >> and many >> >> of those have been addressed in the latest release. We >> even paid for >> >> the development of some of those enhancements. In general >> Nuxeo DAM >> >> is fairly simple, but that's all that we (and I suspect >> many museums) >> >> need. We need it to be able to handle and preview media files and >> >> relate them to our institution. I'm not entirely sure what >> the effort would be and if much additional work would be required. >> >> That's why I reached out. I'll continue to investigate >> this and come >> >> back with progress I might have. >> >> >> >> - Charlie >> >> >> >> From: Chris Hoffman <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu> >> >> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:39:36 -0800 >> >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org> >> >> Cc: "talk@lists.collectionspace.org" >> <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >> >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> >> >> Hi Charlie, >> >> >> >> At UC Berkeley, we have a very strong need to connect collections >> >> management and digital assetmanagement functions in the >> way you describe. >> >>  The Nuxeo DAM has seemed like a good way to go, but we haven't >> >> really experimented with it here.  What's your experience >> been like? >> >> Anyway, we'll happily endorsethis too.  And if it's something that >> >> looks like it needs another grant-funded project to do >> right, maybe >> >> we could get our institutions to partner on something. > Just thinking out loud... >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Charlie Moad wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for following up Patrick. I'll rally my friends. I wouldn't >> >> expect a CollectionSpace tab in Nuxeo CAP anytime soon >> either, but it >> >> would be pretty powerful to have a single repository for the sole >> >> purpose of relating documents to collection objects, >> exhibitions, etc. >> >> >> >> Keep up the good work, >> >> Charlie >> >> >> >> From: Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> >> >> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:33:48 -0800 >> >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, >> >> <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >> >> Subject: RE: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> >> >> Hi Charlie - >> >> >> >> This is something we would really like to investigate, as >> many folks >> >> have expressed at least some interest in this. We have also been >> >> assured by the Nuxeo folks that this should be possible. At this >> >> point, it is mostly a matter of resources and priorities. If the >> >> community rallies support for this as an essential integration, we >> >> should be able to find time in the Phase 3 project to >> investigate it. >> >> >> >> Note that we are otherwise interested in getting the DM >> working as a >> >> diagnostic and support tool, and to aid with import/export >> workflows. >> >> As such, there may be some basic investigation (not necessarily >> >> including DAM/CSpace coordination) in the near term. >> >> >> >> I doubt very much that CSpace will appear as a tab in the Nuxeo UI >> >> any time soon, as this is not ause-case that anyone (else) has yet >> >> requested. Am not ruling it out, just giving my impression of the >> >> current project priorities, in response to yourquestion on >> a related thread. >> >> >> >> Thanks for the question - >> >> >> >> Patrick >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf >> Of Charlie >> >> Moad >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:18 AM >> >> To: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> Subject: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> >> >> What is the feasibility of setting up a single repository >> running the >> >> new Nuxeo CAP 5.5 (DM + DAM specifically) and >> CollectionSpace 2.0 in >> >> a single repository? I would like to be able to relate >> documents to >> >> works in our collection. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Charlie >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended >> recipient(s) >> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >> >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is >> prohibited. >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact >> Charlie Moad by >> >> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended >> recipient(s) >> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >> >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is >> prohibited. >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact >> Charlie Moad by >> >> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Talk mailing list >> >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> >> >> >> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collecti >> >> onspace.org >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended >> recipient(s) >> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >> >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is >> prohibited. >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact >> Charlie Moad by >> >> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended >> recipient(s) >> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. 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I'd like to throw a few thoughts on top of this. Nuxeo DAM and its features are becoming more and more integrated with the DM interface, which is far more robust. DAM is not much more than an advanced/visual search of the DM repository. Any attempt to integrate with DAM at this point would most likely lead to headaches and lost code down the road as DAM looks more and more like part of DM. DM is where the real power and focus of the Nuxeo team lies. Also, aligning CS with the DM product would most likely give you DAM integration for free as the products merge. The CS team is probably aware of this, but I am imagine others who are not familiar with the DM/DAM products are not. - Charlie On 2/24/12 5:58 PM, "Patrick Schmitz" <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> wrote: >Sorry to undermine your joke, but I should note that Nuxeo DM is not the >same as Nuxeo DAM. > >Nuxeo DM is the traditional Nuxeo doc management app that we used when we >had the dual-server (JBoss) setup. > >Nuxeo DAM is the Digital Asset Management application. > >We would like (eventually) to support both, integrated with the same repo >as >CSpace. > >However, the scope of work in 2.3 is only to look at DM, so that support >for >export and diagnostics is restored to what we had previous to 2.0. It may >well be that once we figure out how to support DM and CSpace, adding the >DAM >app to the mix will be straightforward. However, integrating DAM is not a >goal in the 2.3 release. > >Patrick > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf Of >> Aron Roberts >> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:41 PM >> To: Angela Spinazze >> Cc: CollectionSpace Talk List >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> DAM the torpedoes, and full speed ahead? >> >> Aron >> >> (With due apologies ... it's Friday afternoon) >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/damn_the_torpedoes >> >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Angela Spinazze >> <ats@atspin.com> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > A brief update for you on this Nuxeo DM question. >> > >> > As Patrick mentioned in an earlier post to this thread >> (January 4th) >> > "Note that we are otherwise interested in getting the DM >> working as a >> > diagnostic and support tool, and to aid with import/export >> workflows. >> > As such, there may be some basic investigation (not necessarily >> > including DAM/CSpace >> > coordination) in the near term." >> > >> > Given the level of interest in and the potential positive impact of >> > getting the DM working as a diagnostic support tool, we >> will include >> > investigation into the effort required to do so in the >> scope of work >> > for the release 2.3 (scheduled to begin on March 5th). >Based on what >> > we discover in the research phase, we will determine >> if/when the work >> > might be scheduled to take place within the current schedule. >> > >> > We'll be creating a new Jira for this investigation effort so that >> > everyone who is interested can keep an eye on our progress. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Angela >> > >> > >> > On Feb 22, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Angela Spinazze wrote: >> > >> > Hi Charlie, >> > >> > Patrick, Megan and I will be discussing this work tomorrow >> afternoon >> > to determine just what is required and we will follow up on this >> > thread once we've had a chance to explore this in more detail. >> > >> > As Richard pointed out, we have our core CollectionSpace >> development >> > schedule set through September 2012 >> > >> http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3.0 >> > and >> > >> http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3.0 >> > +Proposed+Schedule >> > >> > We do however, realize how important this functionality is to many >> > community members. Thanks very much for keeping this >> conversation alive! >> > >> > Angela >> > >> > >> > On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Charlie Moad wrote: >> > >> > It would help to know if someone could express what would >> be involved >> > in this process. It seems like it could be really close if >> it is just >> > a matter of exposing the CS doc types in the DM interface. What are >> > the complicating factors beyond that? >> > >> > - Charlie >> > >> > From: Nate Solas <nate.solas@walkerart.org> >> > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:52:38 -0600 >> > To: Richard Millet <richard.millet@berkeley.edu> >> > Cc: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, >> > <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >> > Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> > >> > I'd like to +1 a raised priority for this, but I'm not >> entirely sure >> > what to recommend bumping. For us, and I suspect most of >> the current >> > implementers, the multi-tenant service isn't as big an issue, but I >> > know it's core to the long-term sustainability of the software. >> > >> > It seems like there might be some room for this work in the 2.3 >> > roadmap? I don't know how big a chunk the Location and >> Movement rewrite is. >> > >> > Thanks for considering it. This would be huge for us, and it sounds >> > like there is a lot of support out there. >> > Nate >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Richard Millet >> > <richard.millet@berkeley.edu> wrote: >> >> >> >> Charlie, >> >> >> >> Thanks for experimenting with this. One of our known tasks is to >> >> ensure that CollectionSpace can co-exist with Nuxeo's DM >> and DAM applications. >> >> Unfortunately, this work is not currently scheduled to >> happen anytime soon. >> >> However, we understand the value of CollectionSpace being able to >> >> co-exist with Nuxeo's applications. If you feel we need >> to make this >> >> work a higher priority, please review the current release roadmaps >> >> and see how this work compares to what we have planned. If you >> >> decide this work is more important, let us know and we can >> try to raise its priority. >> >> >> >> -Richard >> >> >> >> >> >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf >> Of Charlie >> >> Moad >> >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:14 PM >> >> To: Christopher Pott; Chris Hoffman >> >> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> >> >> >> >> I haven't had much time, but I took a naïve attempt at installing >> >> CS+DM+DAM all on the same postgres database. I am attaching two >> >> CS+DM+screenshots >> >> of the results. There are only a few errors during the DM+DAM >> >> startup, but things seem to run well enough. There appears to be >> >> promise. Two glaring things are that the "default-domain" that is >> >> normally part of the top-level of DM is missing. Looking >> inside each >> >> CS domain shows a workspace for each type, but they are empty. I >> >> would hope that it is only a matter of adding the proper Nuxeo >> >> extensions to expose these types to the DM interface. Any >> insight the >> >> development team has would be interesting. In the mean >> time I believe we are going to relate our DM documents to >> placeholders documents. >> >> The prospect of creating relationship between DM documents and CS >> >> ones feels close though. >> >> >> >> - Charlie >> >> >> >> From: Christopher Pott <Christopher.Pott@smk.dk> >> >> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:35:34 +0100 >> >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, Chris Hoffman >> >> <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu> >> >> Cc: <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >> >> Subject: SV: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> >> >> Hi Charlie, >> >> >> >> Here at SMK we're also in the process of defining our requirements >> >> for a DAM solution and as a part of this process have also >> tested an >> >> earlier Nuxeo DAM version. It was basic, but seemed fast >> and stable >> >> in the short period we tested it. Relating texts and documents to >> >> artworks is also a pressing use case for us - although >> Ihope we can >> >> integrate this into CollectionSpace either through the >> Media Handling >> >> procedure by supporting some new document types (pdf, doc, >> html etc.) >> >> or possibly even by creating a new procedure for handling related >> >> texts. In any case I look forward to following your investigations. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> (another) Chris >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Fra: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] På vegne >> af Charlie >> >> Moad >> >> Sendt: 4. januar 2012 22:48 >> >> Til: Chris Hoffman >> >> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> Emne: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> >> >> At the IMA we are just in the process of rolling out the new DAM >> >> software based on 5.5. We have been using DM with a select >> group of >> >> staff members for several months now with decent success. We found >> >> the previous versions of DAM lacking some very basic needs >> and many >> >> of those have been addressed in the latest release. We >> even paid for >> >> the development of some of those enhancements. In general >> Nuxeo DAM >> >> is fairly simple, but that's all that we (and I suspect >> many museums) >> >> need. We need it to be able to handle and preview media files and >> >> relate them to our institution. I'm not entirely sure what >> the effort would be and if much additional work would be required. >> >> That's why I reached out. I'll continue to investigate >> this and come >> >> back with progress I might have. >> >> >> >> - Charlie >> >> >> >> From: Chris Hoffman <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu> >> >> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:39:36 -0800 >> >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org> >> >> Cc: "talk@lists.collectionspace.org" >> <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >> >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> >> >> Hi Charlie, >> >> >> >> At UC Berkeley, we have a very strong need to connect collections >> >> management and digital assetmanagement functions in the >> way you describe. >> >> The Nuxeo DAM has seemed like a good way to go, but we haven't >> >> really experimented with it here. What's your experience >> been like? >> >> Anyway, we'll happily endorsethis too. And if it's something that >> >> looks like it needs another grant-funded project to do >> right, maybe >> >> we could get our institutions to partner on something. >Just thinking out loud... >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Charlie Moad wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for following up Patrick. I'll rally my friends. I wouldn't >> >> expect a CollectionSpace tab in Nuxeo CAP anytime soon >> either, but it >> >> would be pretty powerful to have a single repository for the sole >> >> purpose of relating documents to collection objects, >> exhibitions, etc. >> >> >> >> Keep up the good work, >> >> Charlie >> >> >> >> From: Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> >> >> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:33:48 -0800 >> >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, >> >> <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >> >> Subject: RE: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> >> >> Hi Charlie - >> >> >> >> This is something we would really like to investigate, as >> many folks >> >> have expressed at least some interest in this. We have also been >> >> assured by the Nuxeo folks that this should be possible. At this >> >> point, it is mostly a matter of resources and priorities. If the >> >> community rallies support for this as an essential integration, we >> >> should be able to find time in the Phase 3 project to >> investigate it. >> >> >> >> Note that we are otherwise interested in getting the DM >> working as a >> >> diagnostic and support tool, and to aid with import/export >> workflows. >> >> As such, there may be some basic investigation (not necessarily >> >> including DAM/CSpace coordination) in the near term. >> >> >> >> I doubt very much that CSpace will appear as a tab in the Nuxeo UI >> >> any time soon, as this is not ause-case that anyone (else) has yet >> >> requested. Am not ruling it out, just giving my impression of the >> >> current project priorities, in response to yourquestion on >> a related thread. >> >> >> >> Thanks for the question - >> >> >> >> Patrick >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf >> Of Charlie >> >> Moad >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:18 AM >> >> To: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> Subject: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >> >> >> >> What is the feasibility of setting up a single repository >> running the >> >> new Nuxeo CAP 5.5 (DM + DAM specifically) and >> CollectionSpace 2.0 in >> >> a single repository? I would like to be able to relate >> documents to >> >> works in our collection. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Charlie >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended >> recipient(s) >> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >> >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is >> prohibited. >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact >> Charlie Moad by >> >> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended >> recipient(s) >> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >> >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is >> prohibited. >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact >> Charlie Moad by >> >> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Talk mailing list >> >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> >> >> >> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collecti >> >> onspace.org >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended >> recipient(s) >> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >> >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is >> prohibited. >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact >> Charlie Moad by >> >> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended >> recipient(s) >> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >> >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is >> prohibited. >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact >> Charlie Moad by >> >> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Talk mailing list >> >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> >> >> >> >> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collecti >> >> onspace.org >> >> >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) >> > and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >> > unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is >> prohibited. 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Thanks, Charlie. I had not learned about this DM-DAM convergence. That is definitely good news for a bunch of us! Chris On Feb 27, 2012, at 6:54 AM, Charlie Moad wrote: > I'd like to throw a few thoughts on top of this. Nuxeo DAM and its > features are becoming more and more integrated with the DM interface, > which is far more robust. DAM is not much more than an advanced/visual > search of the DM repository. Any attempt to integrate with DAM at this > point would most likely lead to headaches and lost code down the road as > DAM looks more and more like part of DM. DM is where the real power and > focus of the Nuxeo team lies. Also, aligning CS with the DM product would > most likely give you DAM integration for free as the products merge. The > CS team is probably aware of this, but I am imagine others who are not > familiar with the DM/DAM products are not. > > > - Charlie > > On 2/24/12 5:58 PM, "Patrick Schmitz" <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> wrote: > >> Sorry to undermine your joke, but I should note that Nuxeo DM is not the >> same as Nuxeo DAM. >> >> Nuxeo DM is the traditional Nuxeo doc management app that we used when we >> had the dual-server (JBoss) setup. >> >> Nuxeo DAM is the Digital Asset Management application. >> >> We would like (eventually) to support both, integrated with the same repo >> as >> CSpace. >> >> However, the scope of work in 2.3 is only to look at DM, so that support >> for >> export and diagnostics is restored to what we had previous to 2.0. It may >> well be that once we figure out how to support DM and CSpace, adding the >> DAM >> app to the mix will be straightforward. However, integrating DAM is not a >> goal in the 2.3 release. >> >> Patrick >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >>> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf Of >>> Aron Roberts >>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:41 PM >>> To: Angela Spinazze >>> Cc: CollectionSpace Talk List >>> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >>> >>> DAM the torpedoes, and full speed ahead? >>> >>> Aron >>> >>> (With due apologies ... it's Friday afternoon) >>> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/damn_the_torpedoes >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Angela Spinazze >>> <ats@atspin.com> wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> A brief update for you on this Nuxeo DM question. >>>> >>>> As Patrick mentioned in an earlier post to this thread >>> (January 4th) >>>> "Note that we are otherwise interested in getting the DM >>> working as a >>>> diagnostic and support tool, and to aid with import/export >>> workflows. >>>> As such, there may be some basic investigation (not necessarily >>>> including DAM/CSpace >>>> coordination) in the near term." >>>> >>>> Given the level of interest in and the potential positive impact of >>>> getting the DM working as a diagnostic support tool, we >>> will include >>>> investigation into the effort required to do so in the >>> scope of work >>>> for the release 2.3 (scheduled to begin on March 5th). >> Based on what >>>> we discover in the research phase, we will determine >>> if/when the work >>>> might be scheduled to take place within the current schedule. >>>> >>>> We'll be creating a new Jira for this investigation effort so that >>>> everyone who is interested can keep an eye on our progress. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Angela >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Angela Spinazze wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Charlie, >>>> >>>> Patrick, Megan and I will be discussing this work tomorrow >>> afternoon >>>> to determine just what is required and we will follow up on this >>>> thread once we've had a chance to explore this in more detail. >>>> >>>> As Richard pointed out, we have our core CollectionSpace >>> development >>>> schedule set through September 2012 >>>> >>> http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3.0 >>>> and >>>> >>> http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3.0 >>>> +Proposed+Schedule >>>> >>>> We do however, realize how important this functionality is to many >>>> community members. Thanks very much for keeping this >>> conversation alive! >>>> >>>> Angela >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Charlie Moad wrote: >>>> >>>> It would help to know if someone could express what would >>> be involved >>>> in this process. It seems like it could be really close if >>> it is just >>>> a matter of exposing the CS doc types in the DM interface. What are >>>> the complicating factors beyond that? >>>> >>>> - Charlie >>>> >>>> From: Nate Solas <nate.solas@walkerart.org> >>>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:52:38 -0600 >>>> To: Richard Millet <richard.millet@berkeley.edu> >>>> Cc: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, >>>> <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >>>> >>>> I'd like to +1 a raised priority for this, but I'm not >>> entirely sure >>>> what to recommend bumping. For us, and I suspect most of >>> the current >>>> implementers, the multi-tenant service isn't as big an issue, but I >>>> know it's core to the long-term sustainability of the software. >>>> >>>> It seems like there might be some room for this work in the 2.3 >>>> roadmap? I don't know how big a chunk the Location and >>> Movement rewrite is. >>>> >>>> Thanks for considering it. This would be huge for us, and it sounds >>>> like there is a lot of support out there. >>>> Nate >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Richard Millet >>>> <richard.millet@berkeley.edu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Charlie, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for experimenting with this. One of our known tasks is to >>>>> ensure that CollectionSpace can co-exist with Nuxeo's DM >>> and DAM applications. >>>>> Unfortunately, this work is not currently scheduled to >>> happen anytime soon. >>>>> However, we understand the value of CollectionSpace being able to >>>>> co-exist with Nuxeo's applications. If you feel we need >>> to make this >>>>> work a higher priority, please review the current release roadmaps >>>>> and see how this work compares to what we have planned. If you >>>>> decide this work is more important, let us know and we can >>> try to raise its priority. >>>>> >>>>> -Richard >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >>>>> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf >>> Of Charlie >>>>> Moad >>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:14 PM >>>>> To: Christopher Pott; Chris Hoffman >>>>> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I haven't had much time, but I took a naïve attempt at installing >>>>> CS+DM+DAM all on the same postgres database. I am attaching two >>>>> CS+DM+screenshots >>>>> of the results. There are only a few errors during the DM+DAM >>>>> startup, but things seem to run well enough. There appears to be >>>>> promise. Two glaring things are that the "default-domain" that is >>>>> normally part of the top-level of DM is missing. Looking >>> inside each >>>>> CS domain shows a workspace for each type, but they are empty. I >>>>> would hope that it is only a matter of adding the proper Nuxeo >>>>> extensions to expose these types to the DM interface. Any >>> insight the >>>>> development team has would be interesting. In the mean >>> time I believe we are going to relate our DM documents to >>> placeholders documents. >>>>> The prospect of creating relationship between DM documents and CS >>>>> ones feels close though. >>>>> >>>>> - Charlie >>>>> >>>>> From: Christopher Pott <Christopher.Pott@smk.dk> >>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:35:34 +0100 >>>>> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, Chris Hoffman >>>>> <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu> >>>>> Cc: <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >>>>> Subject: SV: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >>>>> >>>>> Hi Charlie, >>>>> >>>>> Here at SMK we're also in the process of defining our requirements >>>>> for a DAM solution and as a part of this process have also >>> tested an >>>>> earlier Nuxeo DAM version. It was basic, but seemed fast >>> and stable >>>>> in the short period we tested it. Relating texts and documents to >>>>> artworks is also a pressing use case for us - although >>> Ihope we can >>>>> integrate this into CollectionSpace either through the >>> Media Handling >>>>> procedure by supporting some new document types (pdf, doc, >>> html etc.) >>>>> or possibly even by creating a new procedure for handling related >>>>> texts. In any case I look forward to following your investigations. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> (another) Chris >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> Fra: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >>>>> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] På vegne >>> af Charlie >>>>> Moad >>>>> Sendt: 4. januar 2012 22:48 >>>>> Til: Chris Hoffman >>>>> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >>>>> Emne: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >>>>> >>>>> At the IMA we are just in the process of rolling out the new DAM >>>>> software based on 5.5. We have been using DM with a select >>> group of >>>>> staff members for several months now with decent success. We found >>>>> the previous versions of DAM lacking some very basic needs >>> and many >>>>> of those have been addressed in the latest release. We >>> even paid for >>>>> the development of some of those enhancements. In general >>> Nuxeo DAM >>>>> is fairly simple, but that's all that we (and I suspect >>> many museums) >>>>> need. We need it to be able to handle and preview media files and >>>>> relate them to our institution. I'm not entirely sure what >>> the effort would be and if much additional work would be required. >>>>> That's why I reached out. I'll continue to investigate >>> this and come >>>>> back with progress I might have. >>>>> >>>>> - Charlie >>>>> >>>>> From: Chris Hoffman <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu> >>>>> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:39:36 -0800 >>>>> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org> >>>>> Cc: "talk@lists.collectionspace.org" >>> <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >>>>> >>>>> Hi Charlie, >>>>> >>>>> At UC Berkeley, we have a very strong need to connect collections >>>>> management and digital assetmanagement functions in the >>> way you describe. >>>>> The Nuxeo DAM has seemed like a good way to go, but we haven't >>>>> really experimented with it here. What's your experience >>> been like? >>>>> Anyway, we'll happily endorsethis too. And if it's something that >>>>> looks like it needs another grant-funded project to do >>> right, maybe >>>>> we could get our institutions to partner on something. >> Just thinking out loud... >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Charlie Moad wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for following up Patrick. I'll rally my friends. I wouldn't >>>>> expect a CollectionSpace tab in Nuxeo CAP anytime soon >>> either, but it >>>>> would be pretty powerful to have a single repository for the sole >>>>> purpose of relating documents to collection objects, >>> exhibitions, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Keep up the good work, >>>>> Charlie >>>>> >>>>> From: Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> >>>>> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:33:48 -0800 >>>>> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, >>>>> <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> >>>>> Subject: RE: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >>>>> >>>>> Hi Charlie - >>>>> >>>>> This is something we would really like to investigate, as >>> many folks >>>>> have expressed at least some interest in this. We have also been >>>>> assured by the Nuxeo folks that this should be possible. At this >>>>> point, it is mostly a matter of resources and priorities. If the >>>>> community rallies support for this as an essential integration, we >>>>> should be able to find time in the Phase 3 project to >>> investigate it. >>>>> >>>>> Note that we are otherwise interested in getting the DM >>> working as a >>>>> diagnostic and support tool, and to aid with import/export >>> workflows. >>>>> As such, there may be some basic investigation (not necessarily >>>>> including DAM/CSpace coordination) in the near term. >>>>> >>>>> I doubt very much that CSpace will appear as a tab in the Nuxeo UI >>>>> any time soon, as this is not ause-case that anyone (else) has yet >>>>> requested. Am not ruling it out, just giving my impression of the >>>>> current project priorities, in response to yourquestion on >>> a related thread. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the question - >>>>> >>>>> Patrick >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org >>>>> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf >>> Of Charlie >>>>> Moad >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:18 AM >>>>> To: talk@lists.collectionspace.org >>>>> Subject: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS >>>>> >>>>> What is the feasibility of setting up a single repository >>> running the >>>>> new Nuxeo CAP 5.5 (DM + DAM specifically) and >>> CollectionSpace 2.0 in >>>>> a single repository? I would like to be able to relate >>> documents to >>>>> works in our collection. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Charlie >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> This email message is for the sole use of the intended >>> recipient(s) >>>>> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >>>>> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is >>> prohibited. >>>>> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact >>> Charlie Moad by >>>>> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> This email message is for the sole use of the intended >>> recipient(s) >>>>> and may contain confidential and privileged information. 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Thanks Charlie. I agree with your comments, but hesitated to go there. Not because I take an issue with the substance of your argument, but because I am trying to set expectations for functionality in this upcoming sprint. Our goal is to get access to the admin interfaces of the DM app, and not to provide a seamless integration of the applications. The latter is a longer term goal, and we've been working with the Nuxeo team to ensure this will be possible. But for now, we have to be careful about the scope of our sprint. Of course, we would welcome any contributions you can make in this area, and appreciate your investigations so far. If you've got time to be involved, perhaps we can work together on this. I suspect you have more experience with the DAM that any of us, and as you note, the DAM is closely integrated with the DM product (more so with the latest releases). Your experience and your ideas on what an integration would constitute would be very useful. Thanks - Patrick > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie Moad [mailto:CMoad@imamuseum.org] > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:54 AM > To: Patrick Schmitz; 'Aron Roberts'; 'Angela Spinazze' > Cc: 'CollectionSpace Talk List' > Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > > I'd like to throw a few thoughts on top of this. Nuxeo DAM > and its features are becoming more and more integrated with > the DM interface, which is far more robust. DAM is not much > more than an advanced/visual search of the DM repository. Any > attempt to integrate with DAM at this point would most likely > lead to headaches and lost code down the road as DAM looks > more and more like part of DM. DM is where the real power and > focus of the Nuxeo team lies. Also, aligning CS with the DM > product would most likely give you DAM integration for free > as the products merge. The CS team is probably aware of this, > but I am imagine others who are not familiar with the DM/DAM > products are not. > > > - Charlie > > On 2/24/12 5:58 PM, "Patrick Schmitz" <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> wrote: > > >Sorry to undermine your joke, but I should note that Nuxeo DM is not > >the same as Nuxeo DAM. > > > >Nuxeo DM is the traditional Nuxeo doc management app that we > used when > >we had the dual-server (JBoss) setup. > > > >Nuxeo DAM is the Digital Asset Management application. > > > >We would like (eventually) to support both, integrated with the same > >repo as CSpace. > > > >However, the scope of work in 2.3 is only to look at DM, so that > >support for export and diagnostics is restored to what we > had previous > >to 2.0. It may well be that once we figure out how to support DM and > >CSpace, adding the DAM app to the mix will be > straightforward. However, > >integrating DAM is not a goal in the 2.3 release. > > > >Patrick > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org > >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf Of Aron > >> Roberts > >> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:41 PM > >> To: Angela Spinazze > >> Cc: CollectionSpace Talk List > >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > >> > >> DAM the torpedoes, and full speed ahead? > >> > >> Aron > >> > >> (With due apologies ... it's Friday afternoon) > >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/damn_the_torpedoes > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Angela Spinazze <ats@atspin.com> > >> wrote: > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > A brief update for you on this Nuxeo DM question. > >> > > >> > As Patrick mentioned in an earlier post to this thread > >> (January 4th) > >> > "Note that we are otherwise interested in getting the DM > >> working as a > >> > diagnostic and support tool, and to aid with import/export > >> workflows. > >> > As such, there may be some basic investigation (not necessarily > >> > including DAM/CSpace > >> > coordination) in the near term." > >> > > >> > Given the level of interest in and the potential > positive impact of > >> > getting the DM working as a diagnostic support tool, we > >> will include > >> > investigation into the effort required to do so in the > >> scope of work > >> > for the release 2.3 (scheduled to begin on March 5th). > >Based on what > >> > we discover in the research phase, we will determine > >> if/when the work > >> > might be scheduled to take place within the current schedule. > >> > > >> > We'll be creating a new Jira for this investigation > effort so that > >> > everyone who is interested can keep an eye on our progress. > >> > > >> > Cheers, > >> > > >> > Angela > >> > > >> > > >> > On Feb 22, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Angela Spinazze wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi Charlie, > >> > > >> > Patrick, Megan and I will be discussing this work tomorrow > >> afternoon > >> > to determine just what is required and we will follow up on this > >> > thread once we've had a chance to explore this in more detail. > >> > > >> > As Richard pointed out, we have our core CollectionSpace > >> development > >> > schedule set through September 2012 > >> > > >> > http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3. > >> 0 > >> > and > >> > > >> > http://wiki.collectionspace.org/display/collectionspace/Roadmap+to+3. > >> 0 > >> > +Proposed+Schedule > >> > > >> > We do however, realize how important this functionality > is to many > >> > community members. Thanks very much for keeping this > >> conversation alive! > >> > > >> > Angela > >> > > >> > > >> > On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Charlie Moad wrote: > >> > > >> > It would help to know if someone could express what would > >> be involved > >> > in this process. It seems like it could be really close if > >> it is just > >> > a matter of exposing the CS doc types in the DM > interface. What are > >> > the complicating factors beyond that? > >> > > >> > - Charlie > >> > > >> > From: Nate Solas <nate.solas@walkerart.org> > >> > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:52:38 -0600 > >> > To: Richard Millet <richard.millet@berkeley.edu> > >> > Cc: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, > >> > <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> > >> > Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > >> > > >> > I'd like to +1 a raised priority for this, but I'm not > >> entirely sure > >> > what to recommend bumping. For us, and I suspect most of > >> the current > >> > implementers, the multi-tenant service isn't as big an > issue, but I > >> > know it's core to the long-term sustainability of the software. > >> > > >> > It seems like there might be some room for this work in the 2.3 > >> > roadmap? I don't know how big a chunk the Location and > >> Movement rewrite is. > >> > > >> > Thanks for considering it. This would be huge for us, > and it sounds > >> > like there is a lot of support out there. > >> > Nate > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Richard Millet > >> > <richard.millet@berkeley.edu> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Charlie, > >> >> > >> >> Thanks for experimenting with this. One of our known > tasks is to > >> >> ensure that CollectionSpace can co-exist with Nuxeo's DM > >> and DAM applications. > >> >> Unfortunately, this work is not currently scheduled to > >> happen anytime soon. > >> >> However, we understand the value of CollectionSpace > being able to > >> >> co-exist with Nuxeo's applications. If you feel we need > >> to make this > >> >> work a higher priority, please review the current > release roadmaps > >> >> and see how this work compares to what we have planned. If you > >> >> decide this work is more important, let us know and we can > >> try to raise its priority. > >> >> > >> >> -Richard > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org > >> >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf > >> Of Charlie > >> >> Moad > >> >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:14 PM > >> >> To: Christopher Pott; Chris Hoffman > >> >> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> >> > >> >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> I haven't had much time, but I took a naïve attempt at > installing > >> >> CS+DM+DAM all on the same postgres database. I am attaching two > >> >> CS+DM+screenshots > >> >> of the results. There are only a few errors during the DM+DAM > >> >> startup, but things seem to run well enough. There > appears to be > >> >> promise. Two glaring things are that the > "default-domain" that is > >> >> normally part of the top-level of DM is missing. Looking > >> inside each > >> >> CS domain shows a workspace for each type, but they are > empty. I > >> >> would hope that it is only a matter of adding the proper Nuxeo > >> >> extensions to expose these types to the DM interface. Any > >> insight the > >> >> development team has would be interesting. In the mean > >> time I believe we are going to relate our DM documents to > >> placeholders documents. > >> >> The prospect of creating relationship between DM > documents and CS > >> >> ones feels close though. > >> >> > >> >> - Charlie > >> >> > >> >> From: Christopher Pott <Christopher.Pott@smk.dk> > >> >> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:35:34 +0100 > >> >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, Chris Hoffman > >> >> <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu> > >> >> Cc: <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> > >> >> Subject: SV: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > >> >> > >> >> Hi Charlie, > >> >> > >> >> Here at SMK we're also in the process of defining our > requirements > >> >> for a DAM solution and as a part of this process have also > >> tested an > >> >> earlier Nuxeo DAM version. It was basic, but seemed fast > >> and stable > >> >> in the short period we tested it. Relating texts and > documents to > >> >> artworks is also a pressing use case for us - although > >> Ihope we can > >> >> integrate this into CollectionSpace either through the > >> Media Handling > >> >> procedure by supporting some new document types (pdf, doc, > >> html etc.) > >> >> or possibly even by creating a new procedure for > handling related > >> >> texts. In any case I look forward to following your > investigations. > >> >> > >> >> Regards, > >> >> (another) Chris > >> >> > >> >> ________________________________ > >> >> Fra: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org > >> >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] På vegne > >> af Charlie > >> >> Moad > >> >> Sendt: 4. januar 2012 22:48 > >> >> Til: Chris Hoffman > >> >> Cc: talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> >> Emne: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > >> >> > >> >> At the IMA we are just in the process of rolling out > the new DAM > >> >> software based on 5.5. We have been using DM with a select > >> group of > >> >> staff members for several months now with decent > success. We found > >> >> the previous versions of DAM lacking some very basic needs > >> and many > >> >> of those have been addressed in the latest release. We > >> even paid for > >> >> the development of some of those enhancements. In general > >> Nuxeo DAM > >> >> is fairly simple, but that's all that we (and I suspect > >> many museums) > >> >> need. We need it to be able to handle and preview media > files and > >> >> relate them to our institution. I'm not entirely sure what > >> the effort would be and if much additional work would be required. > >> >> That's why I reached out. I'll continue to investigate > >> this and come > >> >> back with progress I might have. > >> >> > >> >> - Charlie > >> >> > >> >> From: Chris Hoffman <chris.hoffman@berkeley.edu> > >> >> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:39:36 -0800 > >> >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org> > >> >> Cc: "talk@lists.collectionspace.org" > >> <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> > >> >> Subject: Re: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > >> >> > >> >> Hi Charlie, > >> >> > >> >> At UC Berkeley, we have a very strong need to connect > collections > >> >> management and digital assetmanagement functions in the > >> way you describe. > >> >> The Nuxeo DAM has seemed like a good way to go, but we haven't > >> >> really experimented with it here. What's your experience > >> been like? > >> >> Anyway, we'll happily endorsethis too. And if it's > something that > >> >> looks like it needs another grant-funded project to do > >> right, maybe > >> >> we could get our institutions to partner on something. > >Just thinking out loud... > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> Chris > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Charlie Moad wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Thanks for following up Patrick. I'll rally my friends. > I wouldn't > >> >> expect a CollectionSpace tab in Nuxeo CAP anytime soon > >> either, but it > >> >> would be pretty powerful to have a single repository > for the sole > >> >> purpose of relating documents to collection objects, > >> exhibitions, etc. > >> >> > >> >> Keep up the good work, > >> >> Charlie > >> >> > >> >> From: Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> > >> >> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:33:48 -0800 > >> >> To: Charles Moad <cmoad@imamuseum.org>, > >> >> <talk@lists.collectionspace.org> > >> >> Subject: RE: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > >> >> > >> >> Hi Charlie - > >> >> > >> >> This is something we would really like to investigate, as > >> many folks > >> >> have expressed at least some interest in this. We have > also been > >> >> assured by the Nuxeo folks that this should be > possible. At this > >> >> point, it is mostly a matter of resources and > priorities. If the > >> >> community rallies support for this as an essential > integration, we > >> >> should be able to find time in the Phase 3 project to > >> investigate it. > >> >> > >> >> Note that we are otherwise interested in getting the DM > >> working as a > >> >> diagnostic and support tool, and to aid with import/export > >> workflows. > >> >> As such, there may be some basic investigation (not necessarily > >> >> including DAM/CSpace coordination) in the near term. > >> >> > >> >> I doubt very much that CSpace will appear as a tab in > the Nuxeo UI > >> >> any time soon, as this is not ause-case that anyone > (else) has yet > >> >> requested. Am not ruling it out, just giving my > impression of the > >> >> current project priorities, in response to yourquestion on > >> a related thread. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks for the question - > >> >> > >> >> Patrick > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ________________________________ > >> >> > >> >> From: talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org > >> >> [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf > >> Of Charlie > >> >> Moad > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:18 AM > >> >> To: talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> >> Subject: [Talk] CAP 5.5 + CS > >> >> > >> >> What is the feasibility of setting up a single repository > >> running the > >> >> new Nuxeo CAP 5.5 (DM + DAM specifically) and > >> CollectionSpace 2.0 in > >> >> a single repository? I would like to be able to relate > >> documents to > >> >> works in our collection. Any guidance would be greatly > appreciated. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> Charlie > >> >> ________________________________ > >> >> > >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended > >> recipient(s) > >> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any > >> >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > >> prohibited. > >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > >> Charlie Moad by > >> >> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > >> >> > >> >> ________________________________ > >> >> > >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended > >> recipient(s) > >> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any > >> >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > >> prohibited. > >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > >> Charlie Moad by > >> >> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Talk mailing list > >> >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> >> > >> >> > >> > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collecti > >> >> onspace.org > >> >> > >> >> ________________________________ > >> >> > >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended > >> recipient(s) > >> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any > >> >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > >> prohibited. > >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > >> Charlie Moad by > >> >> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > >> >> > >> >> ________________________________ > >> >> > >> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended > >> recipient(s) > >> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any > >> >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > >> prohibited. > >> >> If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > >> Charlie Moad by > >> >> reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Talk mailing list > >> >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> >> > >> >> > >> > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collecti > >> >> onspace.org > >> >> > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > > >> > This email message is for the sole use of the intended > recipient(s) > >> > and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any > >> > unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > >> prohibited. If > >> > you are not the intended recipient, please contact > Charlie Moad by > >> > reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Talk mailing list > >> > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> > > >> > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collecti > >> o > >> > nspace.org > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Talk mailing list > >> > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> > > >> > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collecti > >> o > >> > nspace.org > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Talk mailing list > >> > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> > > >> > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collecti > >> o > >> > nspace.org > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Talk mailing list > >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.c > >> ollectionspace.org > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Talk mailing list > >Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > >http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists. > collection > >spa > >ce.org > > ________________________________ > > This email message is for the sole use of the intended > recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. 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