On Friday, October 2, 2015 8:37 AM, wingsct--- via CTBirds <

 On Friday, October 2, 2015 9:24 AM, SOPHIE ZYLA via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote:

I had a talk with the purple gallinule and he would like a hot meal, a roof over his head,and a ticket south. He prefers not to freeze to death, or be an easy meal for a predator. Kindness for an injured animal is easy to comprehend rather than all the other rationalizations... Simple. So I am available to be on the rescue team, I have a canoe and live 5 minutes away. Please email me off this at annmpacheco@gmail.com Let's get off our soapboxes and move to action😊 Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 2, 2015, at 11:12 AM, ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org wrote: > > Send CTBirds mailing list submissions to > ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ctbirds-owner@lists.ctbirding.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CTBirds digest..." > > > *** When REPLYING to this message PLEASE TRIM OFF THE UNRELATED PORTIONS *** > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Storm-birding plans (Frank Mantlik) > 2. Audubon Greenwich Hawk Watch Festival still happening this > weekend (Ryan Maclean) > 3. Re: [NOSbird] Purple gallinule (Shaun Martin) > 4. Re: [NOSbird] Purple gallinule (Phil Asprelli) > 5. Re: Galinule rehab (Jan Hollerbach) > 6. Golden Eagle in the rain at LPP (Dana Campbell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 14:03:36 +0000 (UTC) > From: Frank Mantlik <mantlik@sbcglobal.net> > To: CT Birds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> > Subject: [CT Birds] Storm-birding plans > Message-ID: > <1016573550.195446.1443794616149.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > With the current strong NE winds and rain, and with Hurricane Joaquin forecasted to travel north up the east coast, it's not too early to start planning birding strategy to look for rare birds deposited in CT by these storms. ?Coastal areas, particularly those providing shelter from wind and rain, come to mind. ?Note that many state and town parks may be closed and inaccessible, due to high surf and coastal flood warnings. ?Also, consider that Long Island Sound is about the narrowest at Stamford (Shippan Point) and at Old Saybrook (Cornfield Point); shearwaters and other seabirds might be more visible at these "bottlenecks". ?Also, as proven out during Storms Irene and Sandy, large inland bodies of water should also be checked for storm-blown birds such as storm-petrels, or even tropicbirds. > Of note, this morning a storm-petrel (Wilson's?) has been reported from a pond at inland Sterling, Massachusetts. > The main directive to birding in storms is to be SAFE. ?No bird is worth putting your life and limb in jeopardy. > Here is a new post on Cornell's birdcast site providing info on Birding and Hurricane Joaquin: > http://birdcast.info/forecast/special-alert-upper-midwest-and-northeast-tropical-storm-joaquin/ > > Frank Mantlik > Stratford > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:39:35 -0400 > From: Ryan Maclean <ryanmac335@gmail.com> > To: "ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org" <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> > Subject: [CT Birds] Audubon Greenwich Hawk Watch Festival still > happening this weekend > Message-ID: > <CACj+zNg+opFeu1mzjnCdQsmnEvzNSyEZL5QuXa_hzF+5_=pF0Q@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hey All, > Despite the sub-par forecast (and a 0% chance of Zone-Tailed Hawks), > Audubon Greenwich's annual hawkwatch festival is still going on as > scheduled tomorrow and Sunday. Activities will include live raptor shows, > hawk ID lectures, live music and great food so if you're in the area be > sure to stop by. The forecast is now only calling for a chance of rain > showers and NE winds both days so despite most activities being planned for > indoors now we may actually get some hawk movement at Quaker Ridge. > Yesterday we had 135 birds (including 6 Peregrines and 71 Sharp-Shins) in > similar conditions so who knows what we may get. > > Check out the link below for more info, looking forward to seeing alot of > you! > http://greenwich.audubon.org/fall-festival-hawk-watch-weekend > > -Ryan MacLean > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:25:19 -0400 > From: Shaun Martin <birdj510@gmail.com> > To: SOPHIE ZYLA <sophiezyla@snet.net> > Cc: "tbaptist47n@gmail.com" <tbaptist47n@gmail.com>, > "elphick@sbcglobal.net" <elphick@sbcglobal.net>, > "ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org" <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org>, > "wingsct@juno.com" <wingsct@juno.com> > Subject: Re: [CT Birds] [NOSbird] Purple gallinule > Message-ID: > <CAKGvwFLU8DbVdSOJ7VbcGv0FxV5vCwDve9XiXMO=dp3dwu8+pw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > There is certainly nothing wrong with helping a critter in need, and I > believe if this were a "sexier" species more people would be in the > category of rehab. But you have to think, this bird is so far off course, > away from its natural habits, there is most likely something wrong with its > internal wiring. > > If this bird is so far from its natural range, it's most likely not > supposed to survive and carry on its genetic makeup. That being said, if > you can easily capture this bird legally, without destroying existing > habitat in the process, and have permanent housing to place him, go for it. > It could become a great education tool, and perhaps help its species and > others by bringing awareness to bird declines. But if the goal is to > ultimately bring it back to its natural haunts, my guess is it'll just end > up off course again and most likely perish. > > Shaun Martin > On Oct 2, 2015 9:24 AM, "SOPHIE ZYLA via CTBirds" < > ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > >> If we can help, even just one life, we should. Helping this bird, instead >> of standing by for a look or a picture, sounds like it can be done so it >> should go to rehab for another chance at life. Humans find it all too easy >> to watch something suffer and just walk away. Sigh >> >> Sophie ZylaBeacon Falls >> >> >> >> On Friday, October 2, 2015 8:37 AM, wingsct--- via CTBirds < >> ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: >> >> >> The arguments for "letting nature take its course" and "it's only one >> birdwhich is insignificant, meaningless to overall populations" are >> outdatedcop-outs. Otherwise, the Bald Eagle, Peregrine Falcon, and other >> DDT-affectedspecies would have become extinct without human intervention. >> Likewisefor the California Condor and countless other species. If this >> Gallinule can be rescued (permits are not required for rescuesprovided the >> bird is taken to a licensed rehabilitator or vet within hours),and proves >> to be non-releasable, it can serve as a valuable educationambassador to >> convey the immeasurable importance of conservationof habitats and the >> species that depend upon them. I know of one potential placement that could >> become a permanentresidence for the gallinule. Whoever takes it in for >> rehab can contactme off-list for more information. The Earth needs much >> healing and more compassion for all livingbeings. Meredith SampsonDirector, >> WILD WINGS, INC.Old Greenwich >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: Tom Baptist via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> >> To: Chris Elphick <elphick@sbcglobal.net> >> Cc: "ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org" <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> >> Subject: Re: [CT Birds] [NOSbird] Purple gallinule >> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 00:08:35 -0400 >> >> Why not ensure the well-being of this bird? It is obviously injured, and >> apparently cannot fly. With cold temperatures arriving soon, doing nothing >> will likely lead to its (premature) death. There may be "weak evidence" >> that this species's population is in decline, yet science indicates that >> its habitat is threatened by wetland destruction and increasing sea levels, >> which humankind is mostly responsible for. So, should we take >> responsibility for the consequences of human impacts on gallinule habitat? >> If yes, then save this bird. >> >> Bluebirds are not especially endangered, but that does not keep me from >> building, installing and monitoring bluebird nest boxes to protect their >> populations from the continuing assault of habitat loss and invasive >> species infestation (i.e. starlings and house sparrows.) Purple gallinules >> deserve no less from us. >> >> Scientists provide us valuable insights into nature. Their disposition >> toward numbers, rather than heart, should be respected. Yet, our hearts >> lend us to believe that good conservation advances in baby steps, such as >> mending this bird and returning it to its normal range, and then, of >> course, working to protect its habitat. >> >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Chris Elphick via CTBirds < >> ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi Lisa, >>> I completely agree that there is much to do in order to address the many >>> harms we've inflicted on wildlife. I've spent my entire career trying to >>> do that. As I indicated in my original email, there are certainly some >>> cases where capture might be appropriate. If it were a whooping crane >> or a >>> black robin, I might feel very differently (though the legal issues there >>> would be an order of magnitude more complex!). >>> >>> But, this is a species with a large geographic range, a global population >>> that is likely in the 100,000s, not known to be declining rangewide >> (though >>> there is weak evidence that hints at a possible decline in the US - but >>> it's very weak evidence), and for which habitat loss is unlikely to be a >>> major issue. For all these reasons it is ranked as "Least Concern" in >>> systematic assessments of the status of the world's bird populations. It >>> is also an individual that is far outside its normal range and so >> unlikely >>> to contribute to the population's ability to thrive, and that under >> normal >>> circumstances would have had a high chance of dying anyway (because most >>> young birds do ... in fact in the species' I study even adults have a >> about >>> 40-50% chance of dying every year ... not because of anything that humans >>> do, but because that is typical in most birds). >>> >>> I do totally understand your concerns, and think that they are critically >>> important things to worry about. I just don't see any way that capturing >>> this bird will address any of them. The solutions to most bird declines >>> center around protecting habitat, consuming less, driving less, and so >> on. >>> There are sometimes very good reasons for rehabilitating injured birds, >> but >>> conservation is rarely one of them. >>> >>> I hope this helps explain my thinking. And if you continue to disagree, >>> that's just fine too :). >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Chris >>> Chris Elphick @ssts >>> Storrs, CT >>> elphick@sbcglobal.net >>> From: Lisa White <madalynwhite@aol.com> >>> To: Aidan Kiley <eezambo@gmail.com> >>> Cc: elphick@sbcglobal.net; Tricia Reid <reidtri@gmail.com>; >>> ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org >>> Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 3:01 PM >>> Subject: Re: [CT Birds] [NOSbird] Purple gallinule >>> >>> I respectfully disagree. In a perfect world, I think nature taking its >>> course would be the right thing. But we don't live in a perfect world. We >>> live in a world where bird populations are dramatically declining due to >>> our poor stewardship -- habitat loss, global warming, etc. So I think >> that >>> if a bird is truly injured (and perhaps this bird is not), we should >> always >>> help it out if we can. >>> >>> Lisa White >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) >>> for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. >>> For subscription information visit >>> http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >> _______________________________________________ >> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) >> for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. >> For subscription information visit >> http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >> _______________________________________________ >> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) >> for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. >> For subscription information visit >> http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) >> for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. >> For subscription information visit >> http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 14:12:45 +0000 (UTC) > From: Phil Asprelli <aspr82@sbcglobal.net> > To: SOPHIE ZYLA <sophiezyla@snet.net>, "wingsct@juno.com" > <wingsct@juno.com>, "tbaptist47n@gmail.com" <tbaptist47n@gmail.com> > Cc: "ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org" <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org>, > "elphick@sbcglobal.net" <elphick@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [CT Birds] [NOSbird] Purple gallinule > Message-ID: > <1265158265.260699.1443795165767.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > In the overall natural scheme of things, maybe this bird, being injured, can provide a meal for a predator, winged or four legged, that may have difficulty in catching a healthy prey victim. Should the predator be denied it's natural "right?" This is nature and while it sometimes seems cruel and "unfair" it is what it is! Phil AsprelliNorth Haven > > > On Friday, October 2, 2015 9:24 AM, SOPHIE ZYLA via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > > > If we can help, even just one life, we should. Helping this bird, instead of standing by for a look or a picture, sounds like it can be done so it should go to rehab for another chance at life. Humans find it all too easy to watch something suffer and just walk away. Sigh > > Sophie ZylaBeacon Falls > > > > ? ? On Friday, October 2, 2015 8:37 AM, wingsct--- via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > ? > > The arguments for "letting nature take its course" and "it's only one birdwhich is insignificant, meaningless to overall populations" are outdatedcop-outs. Otherwise, the Bald Eagle, Peregrine Falcon, and other DDT-affectedspecies would have become extinct without human intervention.? Likewisefor the California Condor and countless other species. If this Gallinule can be rescued (permits are not required for rescuesprovided the bird is taken to a licensed rehabilitator or vet within hours),and proves to be non-releasable, it can serve as a valuable educationambassador to convey the immeasurable importance of conservationof habitats and the species that depend upon them. I know of one potential placement that could become a permanentresidence for the gallinule.? Whoever takes it in for rehab can contactme off-list for more information. The Earth needs much healing and more compassion for all livingbeings. Meredith SampsonDirector, WILD WINGS, INC.Old Greenwich? > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Tom Baptist via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> > To: Chris Elphick <elphick@sbcglobal.net> > Cc: "ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org" <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> > Subject: Re: [CT Birds] [NOSbird] Purple gallinule > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 00:08:35 -0400 > > Why not ensure the well-being of this bird?? It is obviously injured, and > apparently cannot fly.? With cold temperatures arriving soon, doing nothing > will likely lead to its (premature) death. There may be "weak evidence" > that this species's population is in decline, yet science indicates that > its habitat is threatened by wetland destruction and increasing sea levels, > which humankind is mostly responsible for.? So, should we take > responsibility for the consequences of human impacts on gallinule habitat? > If yes, then save this bird. > > Bluebirds are not especially endangered, but that does not keep me from > building, installing and monitoring bluebird nest boxes to protect their > populations from the continuing assault of habitat loss and invasive > species infestation (i.e. starlings and house sparrows.)? Purple gallinules > deserve no less from us. > > Scientists provide us valuable insights into nature.? Their disposition > toward numbers, rather than heart, should be respected.? Yet, our hearts > lend us to believe that good conservation advances in baby steps, such as > mending this bird and returning it to its normal range, and then, of > course, working to protect its habitat. > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Chris Elphick via CTBirds < > ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > >> Hi Lisa, >> I completely agree that there is much to do in order to address the many >> harms we've inflicted on wildlife.? I've spent my entire career trying to >> do that.? As I indicated in my original email, there are certainly some >> cases where capture might be appropriate.? If it were a whooping crane or a >> black robin, I might feel very differently (though the legal issues there >> would be an order of magnitude more complex!). >> >> But, this is a species with a large geographic range, a global population >> that is likely in the 100,000s, not known to be declining rangewide (though >> there is weak evidence that hints at a possible decline in the US - but >> it's very weak evidence), and for which habitat loss is unlikely to be a >> major issue.? For all these reasons it is ranked as "Least Concern" in >> systematic assessments of the status of the world's bird populations.? It >> is also an individual that is far outside its normal range and so unlikely >> to contribute to the population's ability to thrive, and that under normal >> circumstances would have had a high chance of dying anyway (because most >> young birds do ... in fact in the species' I study even adults have a about >> 40-50% chance of dying every year ... not because of anything that humans >> do, but because that is typical in most birds). >> >> I do totally understand your concerns, and think that they are critically >> important things to worry about.? I just don't see any way that capturing >> this bird will address any of them.? The solutions to most bird declines >> center around protecting habitat, consuming less, driving less, and so on. >> There are sometimes very good reasons for rehabilitating injured birds, but >> conservation is rarely one of them. >> >> I hope this helps explain my thinking.? And if you continue to disagree, >> that's just fine too :). >> >> Best wishes, >> Chris >> ? Chris Elphick @ssts >> Storrs, CT >> elphick@sbcglobal.net >> ? ? ? From: Lisa White <madalynwhite@aol.com> >> ? To: Aidan Kiley <eezambo@gmail.com> >> Cc: elphick@sbcglobal.net; Tricia Reid <reidtri@gmail.com>; >> ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org >> ? Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 3:01 PM >> ? Subject: Re: [CT Birds] [NOSbird] Purple gallinule >> >> I respectfully disagree. In a perfect world, I think nature taking its >> course would be the right thing. But we don't live in a perfect world. We >> live in a world where bird populations are dramatically declining due to >> our poor stewardship -- habitat loss, global warming, etc. So I think that >> if a bird is truly injured (and perhaps this bird is not), we should always >> help it out if we can. >> >> Lisa White >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) >> for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. >> For subscription information visit >> http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > > > ? > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:45:48 -0400 > From: Jan Hollerbach <smilifase@gmail.com> > To: "Mntncougar@aol.com" <Mntncougar@aol.com> > Cc: ct birds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> > Subject: Re: [CT Birds] Galinule rehab > Message-ID: > <CAGRwX2RG=5rfL5Pzf36TLQ5ZDijr+FFGJ1tpH_xGEib8fsC5Gg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I had the exact same feeling as Don. Letting that little hummer freeze was > just devastating. And, yes, it won't be a big deal for species > conservation, but it may be a very big deal for that one unique bird. Just > like people. Making a point of being kind one day won't change anything in > terms of human populations, but it may make a big difference for one human > being who is feeling hurt and lonely. I don't want to diminish the > importance of the one by lumping it together in the many. After all, the > "many" is just "many ones". > > Jan Hollerbach > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Don Morgan via CTBirds < > ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > >> I will put myself in the column in favor of attempting to rehab the bird >> if it can be done without a ridiculous amount of effort. >> I must say I never thought too much about this sort of thing until a few >> years ago when the Simsbury Calliope Hummer was allowed to freeze to death >> in the name of letting Nature take its course, even though the bird was, >> by >> all estimations, perfectly healthy until the really frigid cold arrived. >> That bird was effectively trapped here by humans who fed it until it was >> too >> far away from an environment it could survive in . The whole episode has >> haunted me ever since. >> >> I have zero knowledge of how to capture such a bird, let alone with >> anything to do with rehabbing it, but since I only live a few miles from >> the >> site I will volunteer to help with such an effort to the extent that I >> can. >> That might include breaking a trail through the brush to the area where the >> bird usually is, but I don't know if whoever is in charge of that area in >> Mansfield would allow that. Perhaps a more practical approach would be to >> use >> a rubber raft or kayak(s) to try and get near it, since I assume the pond >> must now have a few inches of water. If the traps that have been mentioned >> are available, that might really be the best way. >> If I can assist, please contact me >> >> Don Morgan, Coventry, Ct. >> mntncougar@aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) >> for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. >> For subscription information visit >> http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 11:12:43 -0400 > From: Dana Campbell <dana.l.campbell@gmail.com> > To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org > Subject: [CT Birds] Golden Eagle in the rain at LPP > Message-ID: > <CAOpKxkMS99tZUPG3Z=D=wDD6XM1ZCMAaOsdMM6o4s3YNWn==xA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > 10/2 - New Haven - Lighthouse Point Park Hawkwatch - Adult Golden Eagle > flew in from the east along the tree line, then crossed the field to the > west of the site, then flew back north and took out over the harbor. > Flying low with great looks at his brown head and underwing coverts. > Dihedral made me first think he was a RT, but too big! > Miserable rainy north wind conditions. Only a Merlin and an adult Bald > Eagle (local) seen otherwise, along wih lots of small birds bunkered down > in the park. > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > > ------------------------------ > > End of CTBirds Digest, Vol 3140, Issue 3 > ****************************************