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Leonard Stern

Mon, Apr 13, 2020 1:31 AM

Eric: Re: your Easter bunny question, easy, the ears are usually solid chocolate whereas the rest of the bunny is hollow.

Now to a safety question: In our marina and many others where we hauled and launched, no one is to be on-board. Is that not a rule in your marina. It is difficult to check where the slings are if your inside the boat.
Said seriously and not being nasty or a smart ass..
Leonard Stern ,INDIFFERENCE

Eric: Re: your Easter bunny question, easy, the ears are usually solid chocolate whereas the rest of the bunny is hollow. Now to a safety question: In our marina and many others where we hauled and launched, no one is to be on-board. Is that not a rule in your marina. It is difficult to check where the slings are if your inside the boat. Said seriously and not being nasty or a smart ass.. Leonard Stern ,INDIFFERENCE

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Ted or Sally

Mon, Apr 13, 2020 1:40 AM

One reason to be inside, but not stay inside, is to hand turn your prop
shaft after the sling picks up a little weight. You should be able to turn
your shaft by hand. If the slings are on the shaft, you won’t be ably to
turn the shaft. Have them relocate the slings before they bend your shaft.

Ted G
DeFever 44, Amici

Now to a safety question: In our marina and many others where we hauled
and launched, no one is to be on-board. Is that not a rule in your marina.
It is difficult to check where the slings are if your inside the boat.
Said seriously and not being nasty or a smart ass..
Leonard

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One reason to be inside, but not stay inside, is to hand turn your prop shaft after the sling picks up a little weight. You should be able to turn your shaft by hand. If the slings are on the shaft, you won’t be ably to turn the shaft. Have them relocate the slings before they bend your shaft. Ted G DeFever 44, Amici > > > Now to a safety question: In our marina and many others where we hauled > and launched, no one is to be on-board. Is that not a rule in your marina. > It is difficult to check where the slings are if your inside the boat. > Said seriously and not being nasty or a smart ass.. > Leonard > -- www.gravefamily.org

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Eric Thoman

Mon, Apr 13, 2020 11:26 PM

Now to a safety question: In our marina and many others where we hauled and

launched, no one is to be on-board. Is that not a rule in your marina. It is
difficult to >check where the slings are if your inside the boat.

Said seriously and not being nasty or a smart ass..

No worries.

I had to think about this and walk by the yard in my marina (not a yard that
we use) to see what they do. A sailboat was being lifted this morning and
all four people onboard stepped off of the boat at the bow while in the
straps and in the water. Maybe that is a safety protocol now. Frankly, I
think I have done both. Sometimes we are onboard and sometimes not. I
recall a plank that we used to get off the boat one time, before being
lifted, and that did not meet anyone's safety standards. I am not sure how
you would get off of the boat when using the big Travel Lift at low tide.
Anyway, the yard usually says what they want us to do and we have just
followed "orders from headquarters."

Eric Thoman
Abyssinia

>Now to a safety question: In our marina and many others where we hauled and launched, no one is to be on-board. Is that not a rule in your marina. It is difficult to >check where the slings are if your inside the boat. >Said seriously and not being nasty or a smart ass.. No worries. I had to think about this and walk by the yard in my marina (not a yard that we use) to see what they do. A sailboat was being lifted this morning and all four people onboard stepped off of the boat at the bow while in the straps and in the water. Maybe that is a safety protocol now. Frankly, I think I have done both. Sometimes we are onboard and sometimes not. I recall a plank that we used to get off the boat one time, before being lifted, and that did not meet anyone's safety standards. I am not sure how you would get off of the boat when using the big Travel Lift at low tide. Anyway, the yard usually says what they want us to do and we have just followed "orders from headquarters." Eric Thoman Abyssinia

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Rudy Sechez

Mon, Apr 13, 2020 11:38 PM

All of our experiences with hauling out is that once the boat is partially
out of the water, slings are positioned correctly, and all else is good, we
are always asked to get off the boat. Sometimes easier than said than done,
but yards always have some way of getting folks from the boat to yardside,
though maybe requiring a very long step. I suspect that insurance
requirements are the motivate behind this... possibly learned the hard way.
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All of our experiences with hauling out is that once the boat is partially out of the water, slings are positioned correctly, and all else is good, we are always asked to get off the boat. Sometimes easier than said than done, but yards always have some way of getting folks from the boat to yardside, though maybe requiring a very long step. I suspect that insurance requirements are the motivate behind this... possibly learned the hard way. *Rudy & Jill Sechez * *BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler * *Anchoring Consultants-trawlertrainingabc.com* *850-832-7748 * *Beaufort SC northbound- Chesapeake* > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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LAL

Tue, Apr 14, 2020 7:03 AM

Eric, over "here" if the lift is certified to allow humans on board during
the lift, then one can stay on board throughout the lift.

As to checking the shaft, as soon as there is a strain on the lift's
belts, a swimmer / diver visually confirms the belts / straps are correctly
position before the lift can continue.

The diver / swimmer is clear of the lift before the lift continues.

Some boat owners are their own swimmers. Few lifts here are rated to lift
with a human on board. I have run into only one during my last 13 years.

Lee

Levent Marina, Izmir Turkey

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 2:26 AM Eric Thoman wrote:

Now to a safety question: In our marina and many others where we hauled

and launched, no one is to be on-board.

Eric, over "here" if the lift is certified to allow humans on board during the lift, then one can stay on board throughout the lift. As to checking the shaft, as soon as there is a strain on the lift's belts, a swimmer / diver visually confirms the belts / straps are correctly position before the lift can continue. The diver / swimmer is clear of the lift before the lift continues. Some boat owners are their own swimmers. Few lifts here are rated to lift with a human on board. I have run into only one during my last 13 years. Lee Levent Marina, Izmir Turkey On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 2:26 AM Eric Thoman wrote: > > >Now to a safety question: In our marina and many others where we hauled > and launched, no one is to be on-board. >

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