Bill,

I'm not sure where the diagram went on my
site so use the one halfway down this page:

http://home.teleport.com/~oldaker/10mhz_construction.htm

/tvb
http://www.LeapSecond.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Janssen" billj@ieee.org
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 19:02
Subject: [time-nuts] connections for HP 10811A ?

Hi Chuck:

A true story:
As part of my job at HP/Agilent I was on the road quite a bit living in
hotels.  My laptop was able to connect into their network most of the
time in a secure manner.  But every now and then it refused to connect.
So there was an 800 support number to call and those folks would get me
connected.  One day the message that you get to hear while on hold said
something like "this 800 support phone number will be replaced by the
following web URL on the 17 of June".  Needless to say I made quite a
stink about this and probably so did anyone who traveled.  And it came
to pass that the 800 stayed operational.

My guess is that some kid in the legal department is trying to get
noticed for doing something without asking for permission hoping he
won't have to ask for forgiveness.  It would be good if we found out who
to send email to and start a campaign.  I think that if anyone who can
think heard about this they would put an end to it.

Is there someone inside Agilent who can give us a good email to use?

Have Fun,

Brooke

Chuck Harris wrote:

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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Bill Janssen wrote:

I don't have time now, but are 99.9% sure I downloaded a manual (I'm not
sure what corrections there are) recently. I'll dig it out later, but its
on another computer and I need to leave to get a train in 30 mins or so.

Bill,

Pin 1 - 10 MHz out
Pin 2 - Ground
Pin 3 - Osc/amp 10.6 to 11.7 volts 15 ma
Pin 4 - 10 MHz out ground
Pin 5 - EFC ground
Pin 6 - EFC (control -5 to +5)
Pin 7 - ----
Pin 8 - Oven controller 10.6 to 11.7 volts 5 ma
Pin 9 - Oven controller return
Pin 10 - ---
Pin 11- Oven monitor
Pin 12 - ---
Pin 13 - ---
Pin 14 - Oven 15 to 30 volts
Pin 15 - Oven Return

Hope this helps.

73,
Mike, N1JEZ
"A closed mouth gathers no feet"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Janssen" billj@ieee.org
Subject: [time-nuts] connections for HP 10811A ?

The Agilent Library in Palo Alto is working on a project to make HP/Agilent
manuals available in .pdf form.  I donated 100's of my manuals to
their collection.  They are scanning them in.  I don't know
the exact method by which an outside person accesses this
collection, but I was told it was in response to many customer
phone calls about manuals.

Rick Karlquist N6RK
(employed by Agilent Technologies)

Well, that's certainly interesting.  Maybe the Agilent counsel should
include this tidbit in their threatening letters, to avoid the loss of
goodwill that's happening as a result of the BAMA takedown notice.

If they are trying to ensure that all of the manuals out there are
standardized and officially sanctioned copies, available to anyone on a
reasonable basis, then I'm all for that.

I just wrote to Manuals Plus to see if they've heard anything from Agilent.
They have some substantial business interests at stake, more so than the
usual eBay CD hawkers.  If you order a set of HP 8566B manuals from them,
which come in four three-ring binders full of foldout sheets that amount to
the size of metro-area telephone books, they will actually print them on
demand at near-OEM quality.  I can't imagine what it must cost to buy and
operate the scanning/printing equipment needed to do that.

I don't have a large library here, but I do have a few dozen HP manuals that
the Agilent folks are welcome to if they'll make them available for free or
at nominal cost to hobbyists.  Is there a list anywhere of manuals that they
are looking for?

-- john KE5FX

Thanks to everyone that responded I now have more than enough to
check this oscillator to see if it is OK for my use.

Bill K7NOM

Bill Janssen wrote:

In case you, or anybody else, need the complete Operating and Service
Manual of the 10811A/B, I have uploaded it to one of my Web sites. It is
rather large, 75+ MB, for a total of 65 pages. I tried to ZIP it. but
the reduction in size is minimal. The URL is
http://www.epistemic.info/bin/10811ab.pdf

73  Alberto  I2PHD

Richard (Rick) Karlquist (N6RK) wrote:

Well hopefully the takedown notices that HP has been spreading around are
because they want the unofficial copies gone to make way for the new official
free pdf's.

What are the odds of that?

-Chuck

Alberto,

When I click on the link I go right into Acrobat 5, but the
Acrobat screen does not finish building. When the download
is displayed, there is no Acrobat screen and no way to save
the file.

Anyone else have better luck?

Bill Hawkins

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com]On
Behalf Of Alberto di Bene
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 4:23 PM
To: billj@ieee.org; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Thanks All was connections for HP 10811A ?

Bill Janssen wrote:

In case you, or anybody else, need the complete Operating and Service
Manual of the 10811A/B, I have uploaded it to one of my Web sites. It is
rather large, 75+ MB, for a total of 65 pages. I tried to ZIP it. but
the reduction in size is minimal. The URL is
http://www.epistemic.info/bin/10811ab.pdf

73  Alberto  I2PHD

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