Rich, Carl, I don't haul the empties up that steep incline, I just stack em on the boat rail. Not sure where they go after that. There must be some kind of pickup collection service. Fred Tug 44 ---------------------------------------- From: Gypsymt34@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 5:30 AM To: Great-loop@lists.trawlering.com Subject: ... Re: GL: Winter Storage Hey Fred, Rich is really right on this one. Carl richgano@gmail.com writes: Do you ever get tired of hauling the empty wine jugs up that steeply inclined pier? Rich Gano